We've lost battle for Baghdad, US admits

[shadowknows69]

Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Friday October 20, 2006
The Guardian


A day after George Bush conceded for the first time that America may have reached the equivalent of a Tet offensive in Iraq, the Pentagon yesterday admitted defeat in its strategy of securing Baghdad.
The admission from President Bush that the US may have arrived at a turning point in this war - the Tet offensive led to a massive loss of confidence in the American presence in Vietnam - comes during one of the deadliest months for US forces since the invasion.

Yesterday the number of US troops killed since October 1 rose to 73, deepening the sense that America is trapped in an unwinnable situation and further damaging Republican chances in midterm elections that are less than three weeks away.

More <http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1926809,00.html>

[SpiralHawk]

1. "But on the bright side, oil & munitions profits are way up." -Republicons

You can bet your bippy the republicon oil and munitions cronies are shedding no tears as they add up the billions of profit they have made while our sons and daughters have died and been wounded (God bless them) for the pack of lies told to them by Commander AWOL Bush and sidekick Dick "Five Deferments" Cheney.

IMPEACH THE CHICKENHAWK LIARS who have caused so much needless death and destruction to ENRICH themselves and their corrupt cronies...

[saigon68]

2. You just need to surf to see Movies of US troops being SHOT in HEAD

by snipers

Or see trucks and Humvees blown up.

Their camera work is far superior to ours.

[VegasWolf]

15. Saigon, got any pointers? Thanks. nt

[saigon68]

30. Can't do it------ I got deleted the 3 times I tried to "guide the way"

[JoFerret]

3. Laura and Barney disagree

The bleak assessment arrives as official thinking appears to be shifting on the war, with reports that a study group led by a Bush family loyalist and former secretary of state, James Baker, could be drawing up an exit plan for US forces in Iraq.

Such a strategy would once have been unthinkable for Mr Bush, who famously vowed to keep US forces in Iraq even if he was supported only by his wife, Laura, and dog, Barney.

[rodeodance]

5. te he.

[rodeodance]

6. my gawd----Wonderful sentence about pickles and barney

.....Such a strategy would once have been unthinkable for Mr Bush, who famously vowed to keep US forces in Iraq even if he was supported only by his wife, Laura, and dog, Barney.

[The Count]

12. Barney begs to differ and Pickles was in a Prozac haze at the time...

Still, interesting that this episode of "Mishun Accomplished" is not broadcasted by OUR liberal media....

[Phrogman]

29. Will "Barney" and James Baker the third fight it out on the W.H. lawn?

The dogfight could determine the winner in the
"clash of civilizations", my Gawd!

[allisonthegreat]

32. excellent...n/t

[rodeodance]

4. Pentagon yesterday admitted defeat in its strategy of securing Baghdad.

whow. never thought I would see this admission!

[The Count]

16. You still wouldn't see it if not for the internets. Only The Guardian

bless them makes it possible for some of us to know. And I am a bit surprise that more DU-ers do not react to this momentuous news.

[MaineDem]

7. Wasn't the "Battle for Baghdad" going to be the key point in the war?

So does this mean the war has been lost?

And, again, thanks to the foreign press for reporting this.

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. The NEXT three months are crucial...

:eyes:

Al Qaeda number 2 killed in Iraq!
Local tribes vow to fight insurgents!
Weapons cache found due to local assistance!

List them all, all the bullshit.

The NEXT three months are crucial!
The NEXT three months are crucial!
The NEXT three months are crucial!
The NEXT three months are crucial!

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

21. Double-plus Friedman-think.

[Tesha]

10. "Not anymore." -- Insp. Closeau (NT)

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Maybe if they provided reliable electric, water and sewage

and actually spent money of real reconstruction projects that employ Iraqis things would calm down a bit?

Bush's response to everything is to launch another military assult.

[tuvor]

11. Is this tidbit appearing in any USA media outlets?

[The Count]

13. What? Waste our beautiful minds?

Like Newsweek covered the loss of Afghanistan anywhere but US?

[PurityOfEssence]

20. You had to ruin an otherwise nice day by reminding me of that hag

Barbara Bush is one of the most nauseating organisms to ever slither out into the sunlight.

[0007]

14. The war criminals must face charges

[BenDavid]

17. Close your eyes and

if you are old enough then flash back to when "Siagon fell". Yep, SSDD..Same shit, differnt day.....

"Deja Vu (All Over Again)"

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you try to read the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

Day by day I hear the voices rising
Started with a whisper like it did before
Day by day we count the dead and dying
Ship the bodies home while the networks all keep score

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Could your eyes believe the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

One by one I see the old ghosts rising
Stumblin' 'cross Big Muddy
Where the light gets dim
Day after day another Momma's crying
She's lost her precious child
To a war that has no end

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you stop to read the writing at The Wall
Did that voice inside you say
I've seen this all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again
It's like Deja Vu all over again

[Demit]

18. "The US has poured 12,000 additional US and Iraqi troops into Baghdad

since August only to see a 22% increase in attacks since the beginning of Ramadan. ..."

It will be interesting to see, in a gruesome way, how the Chimp handles it when he is forced to accept James Baker's exit plan. Once again, Daddy knew best.

[Mz Pip]

19. Somebody needs to tell Cheney

He thinks things are just fine there.


How many different ways can we say THIS WAR IS A DISASTER and have this administration listen???? We are rapicly sinking into a tyranny by the minority. 2/3 say Iraq is a mistake but the 1/3 left seem to be calling all the shots.

I really hope people vote for change in the uncoming election because if the Repugs win this will just get worse and worse.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[warrens]

22. Incompetence is a virus

And our whole leadership seems to have come down with it.

[Dragonbreathp9d]

23. ---- However, leaders in the administration feel....

that if they do anything but stay the course it will embolden the terrorists.

[MonteSano]

24. the incompetence is just astounding

[UTUSN]

25. Whuh??? Well, THIS deserves a kick!!!!11 n/t

[The Wielding Truth]

26. Is the Green Zone in Baghdad?

[BadGimp]

27. Dear God, please help us..

Juxtapose this story with this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2571725&mesg_id=2571725
..then hang your head and sob with me.

[lpbk2713]

28. It was lost at the beginning because there never was any plan to win.

http://home.comcast.net/~freshlaundry/bush.html?bs=4Njtfsbcmf%21Gbjmvsf


The Moran-in-Chief only wanted to occupy and steal their oil.

[Kenergy]

31. Mission Accomplished my ass

What a miserable failure these neocons are. If the Dems retake the House and Senate,
Bush,Cheney, Rumsfailed and Rice need to go to the Hague.
They're murderers.

[SOS]

33. Frontline

presented a look at the first year in Iraq recently.
The arrogance, stupidity and failure of the civilian "leadership" are astounding.
Here's the link to watch online:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/yeariniraq/