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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:41 AM
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WP: Rove Road-Tests Tougher Attack on Democrats
Rove Road-Tests Tougher Attack on Democrats
By Michael Abramowitz and Zachary A. Goldfarb
Sunday, October 22, 2006; Page A05

BUFFALO, Oct. 21 -- Republicans have been promising they would ratchet up the rhetoric against Democrats in the final two weeks of the fall campaign, and the man President Bush called "The Architect" of his political campaigns offered a preview of what they have in mind on Friday night.

Appearing in support of embattled GOP Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (R-N.Y.), Karl Rove offered biting jibes against House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), took a shot at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and asserted that Democratic policies would leave the country weaker.

"You can't say I want to win the war but not be willing to fight the war," said Rove, Bush's top political adviser. "And if leading Democrats have their way, our nation will be weaker and the enemies of our nation will be stronger. And that's a stark fact, and it's the reason that this fall election will turn very heavily on national security."...

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For instance, he needled congressional Democrats for voting against a GOP plan to try terrorist suspects at the Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba. Many Democrats said the plan violated basic rights, but Rove rejected that. "You need to have the ability to try these people without worrying about the ACLU showing up saying, 'Wait a minute, did you Mirandize them when you found them on the battlefield,' " he said. "With all due respect, I don't happen to remember that in World War II, that when we captured Nazis and Japanese and took them to camps, that the first thing we did was provide them legal aid."

He also went after the would-be House speaker for voting against renewing the USA Patriot Act, the warrantless wiretapping program and the war in Iraq. "With a record like that, you can see why Nancy Pelosi wouldn't want this election to be about national security," Rove said....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/21/AR2006102100852.html
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:50 AM
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1. rove is nothing but a blow-fart (nt)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:50 AM
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2. sen. candidate Tester knows how to rebut this crap, will other dems?
Tester said he would not vote to change the alleged patriot act, he would repeal it. Now that is how it is said and done :-)

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:04 PM
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4. And from the looks of Tester, you fool with him at your own risk.
He could take Rove with a light swipe from one of his big farmer's hands.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 07:37 AM
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25. And tells the crowd. "If you have guns, You'd better be worried about ...
...the Patriot Act too." That's why his support is cutting across party lines.

If it's properly framed, Dems can win on this issue.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:54 AM
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3. Rove really needs to read history more.
No one had a war crimes trial under the Allies without legal representation that I'm aware of. No one got executed without trials that were portrayed as fair rather than victor's justice (though Stalin, unsurprisingly, didn't care all that much about anything bit a fig leaf for appearances, he just didn't get to decide alone and *real* trials were held, because *Americans* insisted on it).
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Zybelline Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:33 PM
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16.  Dems should put Richard Clark and Joe Wilson24/24 on tv
Dems should put Richard Clark and Joe Wilson 24/24 on tv
who show Bush and Rice and Cheney criminal neglect of intelligence pre 9-11 and for pre invasion Iraq
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:24 PM
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5. Karl Rove has a rare ugliness of soul.
The brain may function, but in the service of promoting incompetence, vainglory, greed, and corruption.

The mouth may move, but the words are dead and empty.

The heart may beat, but it is lifeless.

Exploiting blocs of religious voters, Rove has no faith himself. Vicious in "victory," vindictive in mind-set, Rove has helped midwife what could well be the nadir of America's role in the world. The country remains a superpower, but the groundwork is laid for unspeakable disaster -- in the form of massive debt, national security risks, societal upheaval -- that is already evident in some areas.

There's a difference between success and getting what you want, and it would appear most in the Bush administration are oblivious to that fact, perhaps Rove most of all.

History will judge this empty and loathsome man very harshly indeed.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:32 PM
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6. GREAT post -- very well said! nt
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:48 PM
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8. Very well said
Pigs will rollerskate backwards before anything resembling honesty and integrity pops into Rove's tortured little head. Dirty Rove being dirty Rove should expected by now, and the only question is what strategy works best against him.

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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:05 PM
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9. Well said ...
I wish I had the emotional intelligence to respond in such an accurate, dignified, and succinct manner. Thanks.

:toast:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:28 PM
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12. Ditto...
"Very well said!"
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dos pelos Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 10:11 PM
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19. A Goebbels,no doubt...where is the will to resist?
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 10:13 PM by dos pelos
A compliant Senate voted for the Military Commisions Act.A modern day version of the German Enabling Act.Can no Deomcrat Senator see what is coming?Spineless coopted bought out Quislings.A few decent congressmen.An anesthetized public,manipulated by fear,maybe beginning to stir.The means for serious repression is in place,voted in BY THIS PARTY.The hangmans knot tied by the condemned.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:02 AM
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30. Very Well Put!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:02 AM
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31. Very Well Put!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 12:36 PM
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7. More backstory created by the WP to legitimize upcoming election thefts
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:06 PM
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10. So Rove is now willing to fight the war?
"You can't say I want to win the war but not be willing to fight the war"

EXCELLENT. Finally! Ship him OUT.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:11 PM
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11. Gosh! His Jeenyus Is Just So Overwhelming!!!
*yawn*
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 01:46 PM
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13. Time for the "Separated From Birth" photo
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:32 PM
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15. Whoa! Take 5 - 10 lbs. off Chapman and they'd be identical. nt
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:59 AM
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24. Hideousness, In Stereo! Before Breakfast!
Please issue obscenity warnings on such displays!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 02:28 PM
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:56 PM
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17. How would Rove know anything about "fighting" and "winning" a war?
The blubbering HYPOCRITE traipses around the country pontificating about fighting a war?

Puh-leeze! He never served ONE MINUTE in this country's military.

He needs to be laughed off the stage when he pulls this routine.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 10:23 AM
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29. Heck.....
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 10:24 AM by AnneD
an 8yr old Dem girl whopped his ass cause he had Nixon stickers all over his bike and he never got over it. Surely if an 8yo could best him-we can best him too. I think they are getting desperate now.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 08:44 PM
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18. I watched his speech and it was utterly toothless...
He's irrelevant.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:11 PM
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20. rove who?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 11:14 PM
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21. **Crickets** nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 04:01 AM
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22. ?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:31 AM
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27. Rove is ranting, but there's nobody left in the room.
Save the choir. I doubt they're all full of joy, joy, joy lately. Thus, the crickets chirping in the night...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 05:57 AM
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23. I'd Say the "Road Test" Crashed and Burned n/t
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 08:00 AM
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26. "You can't say I want to win the war but not be willing to fight the war,"
And exactly how many wars have you fought in? Any of your Cabal. Which one of you is the biggest "War Hero"?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 09:50 AM
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28. "You can't say I want to win the war but not be willing to fight the war
Edited on Mon Oct-23-06 09:50 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
and sit around as a political hack."

Edit to add: Oh, wait a second, I guess you can!
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