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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 04:17 PM
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US 'cannot stay course' in Iraq
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 04:20 PM by cal04
The US is not winning in Iraq and will not be able to stay the course in the long-term, a US state department insider has said.

Former intelligence official Wayne White told the BBC that violence in Iraq was "getting worse".

(snip)
He said: "We're not winning. It's apparent.

"I checked with almost a dozen sources in Baghdad in just the last 24 hours," Mr White said. "Every single one of them answered the question as to whether the violence was lessening, or getting worse, with - 'worse'."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6075424.stm


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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 04:34 PM
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1. Those darn truth tellers. This drives George crazy and he takes
it out on us. If they tell him. I sincerely believe they filter stuff out to protect him. Posted earlier about this.

I hope they didn't tell him.

If the real President knows - Bunker Buster - the price of gas may go up to punish all of us because of what appears to be the truth - told by a real person with a name and a background.

A Patriot!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 05:07 PM
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2. 135,000 troops cannot 'occupy' a nation of 26 million.
Edited on Sun Oct-22-06 05:07 PM by Rex
Far too many people and besides, the insurgency ARE the Iraqi people! There is no way to pacify a people who are also the enemy. Can't be done with that few troops. Just a simple military fact.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:06 PM
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3. Somewhere today I read that Bush said he was not committed to staying
the course. Sorry, but don't have the link.

The reason he thinks, in his demented brain this is a true statement is because huis "staying the course" numerous statements to his own people were nothuing but merchandising techniques--the sell--the words--the propaganda--that he KNEW were nothing but sell.

Therefore, he delivered the propaganda, the PR words, the merchandising, knowing full well it was nothuing but a bunch of advertising

Therefore, in his little pea brain, he can say, "honestly" that he never thought "staying the course" was the modus operandi of his government--or his regime. You see, it was all "advertising" and those amongst us, who pay absolutely no attention at all to tee vee advertising, know full well all they are trying to do is to "sell" a product will most always promote the product and it is a sham just to get us to buy it.

So, this regime consisting of mostly 'CEO types, take readily to the the scam--they have no regrets about their 'advertising" and when it comes to reality, the reality of the slautering of hundreds of thousands of human beings, not to mention the deaths of our own troops, think that they can deny the "truth" of their advertising

This man Bush is totally out of control. He cannot think rationally--and he will get away with all his crimes thus far, imo. There will be no justice for the American people who are outraged at his crimes. He will get away with it all.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-23-06 11:48 AM
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5. That was a great post
and I really can't add anything (rather unusual for me).

Well said.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-22-06 07:40 PM
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4. '03 intel report cited strength of Iraq insurgents (Mar 06)
Data showing the rebels were local residents with deep grievances contradicted the Bush administration view of them, and warnings were largely ignored.
By Warren P. Strobel and Jonathan S. Landay
Knight-Ridder Newspapers
Article Last Updated:03/01/2006 03:31:38 AM MST

Washington - U.S. intelligence agencies repeatedly warned the White House beginning more than two years ago that the insurgency in Iraq had deep local roots, was likely to worsen and could lead to civil war, according to former senior intelligence officials who helped craft the reports.

Among the warnings was a major study completed in October 2003 that concluded that the insurgency was fueled by local conditions - not foreign terrorists - and drew strength from deep grievances, including the presence of U.S. troops.

The existence of the secret document, the subject of a bitter three-month debate among U.S. intelligence agencies, has not been previously disclosed to a wide public audience ...

Wayne White, a veteran State Department intelligence analyst, wrote recently that when it became clear that the 2003 report would forecast grim prospects for tamping down the insurgency, a senior official "exclaimed rhetorically, 'How can I take this upstairs ...?"'

http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_3556210
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