Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

(General) Pace Defines 'Winning' in War on Terror

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:05 AM
Original message
(General) Pace Defines 'Winning' in War on Terror

http://www.blackanthem.com/News/military200610_1743.shtml

Pace Defines 'Winning' in War on Terror
By Jim Garamone, American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Defining "winning" is important to the war on terror, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said at a news conference today.

The war on terror is not going to end as World War II did -- with an instrument of surrender signed on the deck of the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay.

Marine Gen. Peter Pace said winning in this war on terrorism will be determined by conditions, not a signature on a piece of paper. "Winning is having security in the countries we're trying to help that allows for those governments to function and for their people to function," he said.

He used Washington, D.C., as an example. "Washington, D.C., has crime, but it has a police force that is able to keep that crime below a level at which the normal citizens can go about their daily jobs and the government can function," he said. "That's what you're looking for on the war on terrorism, whether it be Iraq, Afghanistan or anyplace else."



:crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:11 AM
Response to Original message
1. okay, general, the problem is you still have not set defintive parameters
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 09:13 AM by ixion
for 'winning' this so-called 'war' on terror. In fact, you admit in your 'defintion of winning', that in fact there can be no end in the traditional sense of 'war'. There can be no enemy surrender, because, in fact, the enemy is stateless. Without a nation-state, you've got no war.

All you've spewed is the same old talking point, rephrased slightly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
2. That sounds amazingly like a Kerry quote that he was crucified for.
When he said that ultimately you can only hope to reduce terrorism to the level of a "nuisance." The Bushies POUNCED on that then, but here is their top general admitting Kerry was right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. great point... they also just stole Kerry's Iraq benchmarks idea too
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
3. I say get gw drunk for a week, withdraw the troops, when he sobers up
tell'm We won! We won!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Best idea ever. Get me drunk too would ya? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:20 AM
Response to Original message
4. In other words: When we win... we win. Problem is that we don't know
how to do that, and have made things progressively worse. It's like instead of defusing a bomb we've lit it, are about to blow ourselves sky high and think when our eyebrows grow back we'll be victorious!

Can I call these administration parrots "useless slapdicks" without getting my post removed?
I guess we'll find out. :argh:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:33 AM
Response to Original message
7. I might agree if you're talking about the 'war on terror', but I'm more
interested in what constitutes winning in Iraq.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:38 AM
Response to Original message
8. Riddle me this, Mr. Pace
How does brutalizing and terrorizing the population of a country with our wehrmacht--sorry, "coalition of the willing"--bring about the conditions that allow "normal citizens" to "go about their daily jobs"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
9. Sounds like an open admission that the war on terror is a police matter
Not an Armed Forces Matter. When the police can maintain control like they did in Iraq before the USA invaded and occupied it. Since the US invasion and occupation there is no control. go figure....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 11:20 AM
Response to Original message
10. Hmmm,
didn't Saddam and the Taliban...

"Washington, D.C., has crime, but it has a police force that is able to keep that crime below a level at which the normal citizens can go about their daily jobs and the government can function,"

have things pretty well under control before some invaders showed up?

:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC