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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:50 PM
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Rumsfeld tells war critics to 'back off'
(or what?)

http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/iraq

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday that critics should "just back off" on demands for deadlines in Iraq and that it is difficult to predict when Iraqis will resume control of their country. At a Pentagon news conference, Rumsfeld said benchmarks for security, political and economic progress that U.S. and Iraqi officials have been discussing are valuable because "you are in effect establishing priorities."



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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:56 PM
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1. ClintonTyree tells Rumsfeld.........
FUCK OFF! :grr:

Maybe this is one of the "October surprises" from Rove. Rummy the Dummy finally goes too far and Bush, being ALL ABOUT change and NOT "staying the course", finally fires Rummy, thus proving that he's a man with his finger on the pulse of the country's conscience.

No? :shrug: Hey, it could happen. Bush is stupid enough to think it could work.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:08 PM
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8. I think Bush couldn't think that up on his own
But Rove could.
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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:02 PM
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26. I'm sure he said "F" off. With an "F"
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 06:06 PM by PerceptionManagement
As in Married with Children when Bud tells Kelly to keep her "Wits" about her. As in "T".
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:19 PM
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16. Too far?
A government that guts the Bill of Rights, guts the Geneva Conventions and steals elections has already gone too far and can't go much further.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:48 PM
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19. Interesting point. "Can't go much further" They've boxed themselves in?
I've always wondered if the "new world order" policies and actions would diminish,

And I guess it would be up to the insiders to do so.

Only time will tell.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:56 PM
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2. And just what priorities are you and your cohorts actually establishing, Rummy?
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 04:04 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Rummy is a Motorhead! Nyah-Nyah-Nyah-Nah-Nah! :P

STFU, RumBoy! :grr:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:59 PM
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4. 5 or was it 8 more blown up troops today.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:12 PM
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12. It was 5...so far
but with the way things are going, coul dbe 8 or more before the end of the day :cry:

Also 28 Iraqi policemene killed so far today... :cry:


Fuck you, Bush!!!





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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:26 AM
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53. Hey now--don't sully the name of metal gods Motorhead
by calling Rummy one !!! :)
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:05 PM
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55. My apologies!
Am not a metal fan...didn't know there was a group called Motorhead

...can I call RumBoy a ButtSniffer???

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 01:10 PM
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56. Hey! That looks like Norm Coleman and Bush.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 03:57 PM
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3. Sure Rummy we will back off when eggs fly
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:03 PM
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6. He talks to Americans like we're all his ass-kissing minions
I cannot wait to see him locked up.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:06 PM
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39. Echo that!
His hubris makes me want to rant and gesticulate, on and on and on!

Thank you katinmn, for speaking for me also, in a more compact and precise way.

:thumbsup:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:08 PM
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41. Thank you
:toast:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:00 PM
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5. love the headline!!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:04 PM
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7. Me too. It shows his arrogance quite well.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:10 PM
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9. Back Off?
Isn't that what you say when you know you're in deep shit and got no power to get out?
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:11 PM
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10. "Back off?" No, Donny, "suck this." nt
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:11 PM
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11. Stop Harshing Rummy's Mellow!
Details are for squares, man. Big Daddy Rummy's a groovy cat and he wants to get down with this stuff fer shur, but keep it cool. He'll give you the state of the groove when he's ready to move.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:08 PM
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40. lol
love that Subject line :D
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 07:45 AM
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50. People are jamming his head
Rummy thinks that all these bad vibes are a harsh toke.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:13 PM
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13. Rumsfeld sees Iraq benchmark dispute as politics



Maliki's statements this week distancing himself from any U.S. timelines have also appeared framed for his domestic audience, not U.S. backers.

He told Reuters on Thursday that he could stamp out violence in six months if the Americans would give him more weapons and control over his forces.

"He's a politician," Rumsfeld said of Maliki's statements, adding that such remarks should be expected. "We ought not to be surprised," he said. "Now we just sit back and enjoy the democracy that's there."

The White House blamed misleading media reports for saying Maliki rejected any sort of benchmarks or goals.

"The question he was asked was whether he agreed that there should be a timetable for withdrawal of troops in 18 months," spokeswoman Dana Perino said. "That is something that Maliki has rejected as foolhardy, and that the president fully agrees with."

Rumsfeld, in characteristically forceful yet jocular style, said reporters should "just back off ... and relax" when pressed about the benchmarks. He called "mischievous" the assertion that a general recently opened the door to troop increases...........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061026/pl_nm/iraq_usa_rumsfeld_dc
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 03:58 AM
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49. Herr has just sit back to enjoy the democracy that's there, or
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 04:02 AM by Amonester
more accurately, the titanic mess that's there, and nothing else...

Protecting the troops? He wouldn't work for that.
Telling the truth in the first place?? Fat chance...
Producing real plans instead of lazy bitmaps? No.
Securing all weapons deposits instead of the oil?

And on, and on...

"6 months," huh? Sure. We thought we saw "6 weeks" ...

BTW, who signs his paycheck again?
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:17 PM
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14. This is a legitimate threat...
Realize this; that as of last week Rumsfeld has a golden finger. As with the Inquisition all he needs do is point and you're gone. He and Bush have that authority through The Military Commissions Act of 2006.

I'm still amazed that the issue has just faded into the current news cycle, fires in California and psychotic super models
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:19 PM
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15. Back off, man! I have an army, and I'm not afraid to use it!
What a sad, delusional old man.

They've got a spot reserved for him at Happy Acres, right near the window.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:20 PM
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17. That's okay
There's a real special place in hell for true evil scum like him!
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:36 PM
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18. Tough talk from a complete fuck-up, wouldn't you say?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 04:48 PM
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20. Feeling a Little Pressure, Donny Baby?
About time!
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Marrak Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:02 PM
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21. establishing priorities...
Duh...like it takes three fucking years to "stumble" upon the word "priorities"...you just could never find your ass with both hands...


<>
Rummy: back-off...
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:14 PM
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34. LOL! He has some bizarre moves
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REDKING Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:02 PM
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22. I just want to say one thing......
I dont know what will happen to the souless dick...but I hope he gets what he deserves
Good luck to you all stateside....let hope have her day......Peace.RK;)
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:16 PM
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35. Thanks, Redking
:hi: We need hope, luck, passion, will, and courage to bring the country out of the abyss we're in.
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Johnyawl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:05 PM
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23. war critic tells Rumsfeld to "back off"

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 05:10 PM
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24. The one thing he hasn't backed off of is his belligerent ways.
He seems to know nothing except bully, bomb, and berate.

When oh when are these guys going to realize that the world doesn't work like it did in Dirty Harry.
We're not extras. We're not the audience. We are real people and you work for us, punk.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:00 PM
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25. I Think Rummy Is Coming Apart At The Seams

He really looked rattle3d at this conference today.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:21 PM
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27. Hey Rummy.you WORK for US!!!!!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:21 PM
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28. They must not have firm hold on the oil. It can't be that their contractors haven't
made enough money yet!

Can anyone, ever, remember White Houseans so coarse?

Amazing.


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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:34 PM
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29. Oh ok.. Mr. Rumsfeld...
I'm backing off now...

asshat
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:36 PM
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30. Rummy's hoop-d:
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:12 PM
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33. LOL!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:22 AM
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52. The Huffington Post stole my post!
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 08:22 AM by RUMMYisFROSTED
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 06:57 PM
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31. War critics tell Rumsfeld to 'f*ck off'
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:08 PM
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32. Um, Rummy, blow me.
It's called "free speech" and you assholes haven't managed to take it from us yet.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:18 PM
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36. Yeah, I'm sure his generals are allowed to 'back off'.
:eyes: I swear what a crybaby.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 07:20 PM
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37. "We want IT ALL first!"


:sarcasm:
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 08:13 PM
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38. Piss Off Rummy!
What an arrogant piece of crap. Rot in hell!
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IndyBob Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:16 PM
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42. I should not get overly optimistic
but it looks like the majority of Americans are starting to see through the neocon's pathetic, war-mongering lies. Rummy's PO'd that his "troubles" in Iraq have delayed the rest of the GWOT timetable. In his mind, we should have toppled Iran and Syria by now as well.
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:17 PM
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43. What an idiot
Waah waah waah.

If you can't handle criticism then you never should have become a public figure.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:29 PM
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44. "Back off or I'll zot you with magic bolts from my hypnotic fingers!"
Edited on Thu Oct-26-06 09:29 PM by struggle4progress
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 09:32 PM
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45. There was and is no strategy, it's a diaster...
...this PR campaign doesn't mean a thing. As the CNN Iraq reporter said today, "it's a diaster" and "the US war effort is half hearted" and ineffective.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-26-06 10:57 PM
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47. In a word...
NO.

So fuck you, rummy.
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ThsMchneKilsFascists Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 12:59 AM
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48. Rumsfailed better get used to it
The truth is nipping at his lying ass.
Reality bites, huh Rummy?


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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 08:11 AM
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51. "jocular"?
I forced myself to watch some of Rummy's press conference last night and thought that he was far from "jocular".

At one point, a particularly persistent reporter was asking follow-up questions to the subject of "benchmarks" and the capability of Iraqi units.

Rummy was spitting firebolts. Yelling and shouting, cutting people off, literally calling the reporter a liar.

Jocular? I hardly call that wizened mouth-rictus a smile.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 10:51 AM
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54. I was enraged by his "relax" comment
The Secretary of Defense actually said in that exchange that we need to "relax". He should be fired immediately. I have a son who has had two tours in Iraq, and another is coming up in January.
We've had a bloody month with over 90 casualties. And this blithering idiot says to "relax"?
That's beyond stupid and insensitive.
It's positively criminal.
These people are amoral. They lie. They manipulate. They crabwalk all over direct questioning. And then they blithely tell us to "relax".
Criminals.
Hey, Donald, send your son/daughter over there and then tell me how "relaxed" you are.
I'm one MAD Mama of a Marine right now.
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