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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:58 PM
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Bush: Rumsfeld, Cheney must stay til end
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_13

Bush: Rumsfeld, Cheney must stay til end

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

President Bush said Wednesday he wants Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney to remain in his administration until the end of his presidency, extending a job guarantee to two of the most criticized members of his team.

(snip)

And Bush said he did not foresee a change in the immediate future in the number of U.S. troops in Iraq. "They've got what they can live with," Bush said.

The president spoke in the Oval Office, seated in a wing chair in front of a table with a bowl of roses. Six days before midterm elections, Bush steered questions away from politics beyond saying he was confident that Republicans would defy the odds and hold control of the House and Senate. He refused to even say whether he could work effectively with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi or Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid if Democrats won either the House or Senate, or both.

Bush took the opportunity to take another poke at Sen. John Kerry, in political hot water for a remark that has been criticized as a slam on U.S. troops in Iraq. Kerry has apologized and said it was a botched joke.

"It didn't sound like a joke to me," the president said. "More important, it didn't sound like a joke to the troops.

(snip)

He said he valued Cheney's advice and judgment. "The good thing about Vice President Cheney's advice is, you don't read about it in the newspaper after he gives it," the president said.

Bush credited Rumsfeld with overseeing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan while overhauling the military. "I'm pleased with the progress we're making," the president said. He replied in the affirmative if he wanted Rumsfeld and Cheney to stay with him until the end.

link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061101/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_13
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 02:59 PM
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1. LOL
Someone please help me here, the quote about not reading Cheney's advice in the newspaper... :D ("...or so Condi has told me" "for those of you who read" etc.)
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:00 PM
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2. that ends the posts of Rummy quitting after the mid-terms
:shrug:
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:00 PM
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3. "they've got what they can live with"...don't you mean die with?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:01 PM
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4. well now....that ought to put a boost in the Rs-ratings!! lol
:sarcasm:
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:36 PM
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5. What end? Annihilation? Multiple genocides until only White Oil People
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 03:36 PM by Whoa_Nelly
rule the Earth? :grr:


Idiots! THEY are the terrorists
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:36 PM
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6. So Bush is happy with no progress at all.
Because there is none. Yet he is pleased.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:43 PM
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8. They've made great progress
They control the Iraqi oil fields and they've bankrupted the US economy in 6 short years. They've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:39 PM
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7. Hitler: Goebbels and Himmler must stay until the end.
I'm sure there's some documentation out there that says this.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:45 PM
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9. Stay the Course one Senile Old man and the other on his
last battery... How pathetic...
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:47 PM
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10. "...or else I won't know what to do."
The fact is, impeaching Dumbyass would be meaningless without prosecuting those two as well.
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olshak Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:55 PM
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12. International Tribunal
I am all for impeaching him, then having him, Dick and Rummy all arrested and delivered for a war crimes tribunal.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:49 PM
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16. I could go for that.
I won't hold my breath waiting for it to happen, though.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 03:51 PM
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11. Cheney and Rumsfeld are the puppet masters
that pull the strings that make Bush dance like the little monkey that he is. They send him out there and tell him what to say.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:14 PM
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13. homocidal maniacs unite.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:16 PM
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14. That'll be convenient.
Then they can all get arrested and hauled off to the Hague at the same time.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 04:17 PM
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15. Bush looks a bit terrified today


I guess he knows they'll all hang together.

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:55 PM
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17. Yo, Georgie, I got your END right here:
The killer awoke before dawn.
He put his boots on.
He took a face from the Ancient Gallery and he
Walked on down the hall...


That's YOU that The Doors are singing about, Worthless Motherfucker.

:grr:
dbt
Remember New Orleans

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:57 PM
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18. Is that anything like saying "heck of a job"?
kinda odd Bush saying that...it has a different feel to it ..at least to me it does.

could be nothing
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jacksonian Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:29 PM
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19. weird lumping them together
Rumsfeld is Bush's hireling, Cheney is the elected VP.

Bush can fire Rumsfeld, but Cheney, like Bush, can only resign. Which, BTW, is an excellent idea.
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:37 PM
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20. No surprise here....nt
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:02 PM
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21. Good! They can all be impeached or investigated or charged
at one time!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:08 PM
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22. "They've got what they can live with," but not what they can win with.
time for the Democratic leadership to jump all over this.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:53 AM
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39. What a callous thing to say! Or is it just me?
They've got what they can live with. :wtf: Is that the same thing as You go to war with the military you have, not the military you want?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 08:15 PM
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23. Heck'va job Rummy! nt
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:12 PM
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24. Can't have Gotterdammerung without all the gods present.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:15 PM
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25. That explains the Paraguay land deal.
:think:
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:21 PM
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26. A pundit said this statement makes it hard for the GOP candidates
who have called for Rummy's resignation. A politically stupid move by the chimp, they said.....
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:22 PM
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27. Ooh. Sounds Cultish. Must Be Some Armageddon Plan.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:34 PM
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28. This signals (to me) that they are both going to resign.
Bush says right before the election that he needs them.

They turn in their resignation immediately after the election in spite of Bush's support.

Rummy's gone within 30 days. I'm confident of this.

Cheney's gone by January 1. I'm pretty confident of this, but not as much.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:58 PM
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29. The 9/11 mastermind must stay
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:29 PM
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30. They should have to remain chained together until the last one dies.
Just think, they'd have to lug Cheney's carcass around for years
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:46 PM
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31. scared they're going to run away and leave you holding the bag, Georgie?
That's what he would do if he were in that position!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:49 PM
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32. You know, George, people are fast growing sick of you poking Senator Kerry
like that--keep doing it, and the GOP will sink even lower than it already has. Go ahead.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:34 PM
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33. Sheesh--what, you mean somebody could resign this thing?
They're all in too deep, now. They made their bones and they're in until the ride is over.

But what is this about the troop count? "They've got what they can live with," Bush said.

Who is "they" and just what are they "living with"? Is it like they did some kind of cost-benefit analysis and determined that the percentage of loss with the current number would be somehow more acceptable than more or fewer troops--or is there some conscious opinion of the manpower needed to accomplish certain (success-oriented--since we're *all about* the victory, Mr. Bush) goals in winning the war? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 11:56 PM
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34. I didn't realize Cheney was in question...
this is getting really interesting.
:shrug:
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:18 AM
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35. Rummy tried to resign at least once.
Boy George refused to accept it. I doubt he will in the next 2 years.

Cheney's the real president, so he's not going anywhere.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:39 AM
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38. Right, Cheney IS the real president!
And he is busy backing his play!

The shredder truck was called to his home to get rid of sensitive documents that might implicate
him for HC&M at some later date. Also, the offshore accounts are getting moved around redistributing
the wealth from lopsided bank accounts to other methods of storage (underground treasurys) for future
distribution.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:32 AM
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36. Fine with me
There won't be any question who the main collaborators of this gigunda mess have been when it comes time for the trials. Dreaming again I know.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:34 AM
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37. till the BushCo-induced RAPTURE?? WTF
Edited on Thu Nov-02-06 05:58 AM by 48percenter
Sounds like a smarmy old song, Till The End of Time.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 05:58 AM
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40. He made it clear who's to blame for the mess in Iraq
and Afghanistan.

"Bush credited Rumsfeld with overseeing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
while overhauling the military."

But is credit the right word?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 06:01 AM
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41. Rummy & Cheney call the shots anyway.
More likely they allowed * to be their puppet for another two years because no one else is stupid enough to want the job.
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