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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:26 PM
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Assault Charges Filed Against Allen Staffers


Charges have been filed against the men who allegedly roughed up a heckler at a George Allen campaign stop.


Mike Stark, a UVA law student, says the men put him in a choke hold and threw him out of the room after he asked Allen about a rumor that the senator had spit on his first wife.


http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=5617531&nav=menu28_2

Go Mike Stark!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:27 PM
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1. I've seen two camera angles on it...
They stomped the poor guy, then one of them tries to buddy up to him while shoving him out a door. Hope the assholes do jail time.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:28 PM
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2. Gee, too bad he doesn't have something ...
... to prove what actually happened - like, say, a VIDEOTAPE.

These guys are toast when this goes to court.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:33 PM
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7. Not necessarily. They will claim that he hit first, and all those
friends of theirs in the room will back them up. He should have had a bunch of buddies there to back up his story.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:06 PM
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18. The video I've seen makes it pretty apparent what went on ...
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 06:06 PM by NanceGreggs
Besides, there have been no such statements from Maccaca or his boys about this being self-defence, etc. so far as I'm aware.

In fact, has there been ANY statement from Allen's camp about this? I've been out of the news-loop all day due to work.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:29 PM
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3. Macacawitz spit on his wife? Bwahhhhhh! Unseal those records!!! Kick!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:59 PM
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15. that could be part of discovery for assault or civil trial
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 05:59 PM by yurbud
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:30 PM
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4. Stark "was asking inappropriate questions" - a true rethug response.
Worth throwing him around for, eh, muscle-boys?

:eyes:
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:43 PM
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13. Isn't There Something Out There About Free Speech? eom
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:31 PM
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5. Way to go! Get those records released.
That was an unprovoked assault. A verbal question is not a provocation.
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:32 PM
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6. Good! One piece of trouble though...
At one point, Stark moved towards them and brushed up against one (in an apparent attempt to get by).

The people in question can legitimately call as a defense that they became fearful that Stark (who was becoming verbally belligerent) could have been attempting to assault one of them.

(To be honest, I know if a guy approached my wife like that, I'd do the same thing.)

I still hope they have to at least appear in court and defend themselves, just like anyone else would have to.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:37 PM
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10. "if a guy approached my wife like that,"
Nice to know chivalry isn't dead, but Allen is a big guy, not the "little woman" - seeing the tapes I fail to see anything "agressive" in Starks behaviour except for a pointed question.

:hi:
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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:10 PM
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19. Here's the video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dDcp4t5BiPY

At 23 seconds in this particular video, Stark tries to get around one man during the argument (it had just begun) and bumps into the man with the white shirt from behind in an attempt to approach Allen.

That can be considered an "aggressive behavior" as Allen and company were making an attempt to get away from Stark.

I'm not saying I agree with Allen's team, or know which way a jury would decide, but it IS a reasonable defense.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:10 AM
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25. "Now you're gettin' personal..." erm... dude, now you're gettin' physical.
they're hosed. Allen is toast if he doesn't apologize profusely for the incident and fire all three of those thugs.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:39 PM
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11. I noticed that and concur.
Stark actually put his hand on the chest of the guy he brushed past and it looked like he could even have pushed him.
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:41 PM
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12. Nice to see you, Captain Macho. Be sure your wife sees your post. EOM

nt
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gfnrob Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:02 PM
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16. whaaa
Those staffers knew who Stark was, Knew him to be no physical threat, knew he would ask "inappropriate questions. Brown booted thugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:35 PM
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8. Yesssssssss!
Here's hoping the scum get what they have coming to them. I would also like to see some of this splashed on Macaca's precious cowshit stompers.

"One of CNN’s affiliates asked Allen for comment on the incident, and CNN reported that he responded, "Things like that happen." http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/31/allen-comments/

Oh, really? I don't recall anything like this happening at a Democratic rally.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:49 PM
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22. Did he spit after saying that?
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 09:50 PM by Marie26
I can't believe that his response to an assault charge is "things like that happen." Apparantly, it's not too out of the ordinary for George Allen. It's a little scary to think that this bully was at one time a front-runner for President!
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 10:49 PM
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23. Thank God he screwed himself out of a Presidential bid.
I hope...
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:35 PM
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9. The protester is AWESOME
"Mr. Allen said these things happen in campaigns. These things happen in campaigns? (incredulous) These things don't happen in campaigns, these things happen in third world countries!

The guy was great. Watch the video at the link below.

Good question too. Why did you spit on your first wife, Felix?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=alfB1dWbrTc
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 05:48 PM
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14. The guy got
thrown into a glass window, and it was all captured on videotape. This seems like a slam dunk case for the prosecutor. The Allen staffers will probably have no choice but to plead guilty.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 06:04 PM
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17. I bet that staffer has a record too. He looked a bit too comfortable handling
Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 06:05 PM by zonkers
himself.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 07:40 PM
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20. scary looking dude
definitely
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-01-06 09:39 PM
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21. Hee Hee Hee! *snicker*
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-02-06 12:05 AM
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24. Good! Fucking Republican thugs!!!!!!!
:grr:
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