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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:45 AM
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Iran: Sex footage leaves actress fighting to save honour
Edited on Fri Nov-10-06 04:56 AM by ECH1969
HOLLYWOOD starlets who regret topless appearances in B-list films made before they hit the big time should spare a pitying thought for their Iranian counterparts - who risk far more than mere embarrassment.

In a scandal now gripping the conservative Islamic country, police are investigating a private film circulating on the black market that purports to show a rising young soap star making love to her boyfriend.

Mr Mortazavi has ordered the arrest of the man in the film, who is now a fugitive. "If the man is caught we will jail him for at least six months, up to a year," a judiciary official said.

An Iranian woman was stoned to death in 2001 after being convicted of "corruption on earth" for participating in a home-made pornographic film.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1663762006
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:50 AM
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1. The actress
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:30 PM
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37. Using the kinds of techniques that were used to make Jurassic Park,
wouldn't it be possible to create a porn movie involving that actress having sex with Iranian President Ahmadinejad?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:54 AM
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2. The actress was stoned to death, but the guy gets 6 months to 1 year.
Sharia misogyny in action. This is what we have brought to Iraq.

:grr:

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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 05:04 AM
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3. She hasn't been punished yet
That was a women in 2001 who was in a homemade sex video.

You can bet the Mullah's are jerking off to his actress's video right now before they have her stoned.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 05:11 AM
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4. yeah, and then they will video the stoning... and jerk off to that.
Sick fucks.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 05:37 AM
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5. God, she must be terrified.
I hope the bastards conclude that she wasn't involved.

:(
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 02:38 PM
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20. she committed adultery
that's bad enough, according to them.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:25 AM
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29. Yea' know these pervs they probably have a double orgasm when she's stoned.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:09 PM
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25. Actually, this is in Iran, not Iraq.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:18 PM
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26. Yes, I know.
Iran has been operating under Sharia Law for a very long time.

Iraq had a secular government under Saddam. Now that the Shiites (fundies) are able to fight back with Saddam out of the way, Sharia Law will undoubtedly take hold in Iraq too. That's what I meant.

:(

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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:38 PM
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27. I hope you're wrong.
Unfortunately, all the signs seem to point to what you're saying.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 07:31 AM
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6. Stoned to death for making a movie?!
We've been WAY too easy on Pauly Shore.
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:19 AM
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7. lol
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:26 AM
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8. Geez.... this isn't a laughing matter
The woman will probably be killed when she's found.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:46 AM
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17. How else will people learn that sex is *dirty*...
...and that if we pray hard enough, it will disappear?
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:27 AM
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9. This story looks like a plant to me...
quick... invade and bring them freedom like Iraq!

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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:38 AM
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10. yup
I've been noticing a steady drip of this type of anti-Iran stories.
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:57 AM
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13. We Had One Previously On DU...
when I pointed out that black men are routinely killed by white cops throughout the USA (one innocent black had just been murdered by a cop that week in Minneapolis) the anti-Iran poster said I should "get a life".

People fail to realize that the anti-Iranian MEK and other groups want the USA to invade Iran and they continue to plant stories and promote hate as part of their warmongering campaign. While some of the content may well reflect situations that would not be tolerated in the USA, we must not lose sight of the fact there are many intolerable acts of racism and hate here. Let's put a stop to these crimes before we concern ourselves with objectionable actions overseas.
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Amused Musings Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 12:08 PM
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19. Unlikely
Just because some people in the upper echelons of power in this country are chomping on the bit to attack Iran, does not mean that the current regime and its idiotic judges are not bad. Why would the CIA use the Scotsman, not a particularly widely read newspaper in America, to publish disinfo? Islamic Law, and most religious law for that matter, is vile enough without the CIA having to lie about it.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 04:06 PM
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23. whoa

People fail to realize that the anti-Iranian MEK and other groups want the USA to invade Iran

The "anti-Iranian" Mujahedin-e-Khalq?? What an odd thing to say. I haven't spoken to my many Mujahedin friends in some time, but I'm doubting that they're wanting the US to invade Iran any more than they did back when we were in more regular contact.

Last I saw, the MEK was on the US govt's terrorist organization list ... and Canada's. But I guess that's just to fool us.

There is no doubt that the media are complicit in advancing the US govt's agenda, when it comes to drumming up public support in advance of the govt's next adventure. I'm really not persuaded that the MEK is part of the cabal.



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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 08:19 AM
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28. Perhaps You May Be Persuaded By This ...
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2005%20Opinion%20Editorials/September/18%20o/Supporters%20of%20Endless%20Wars%20in%20Congress,%20II%20By%20Paul%20Sheldon%20Foote.htm



There are other articles throughout the Internet which discuss this at greater length. So while you are not persuaded (and I respect your right to harbor that opinion), the likelihood of some sinister campaign being undertaken in order to promote more war in the ME is not as illusory as you may think. I assume you are not a MEK ally.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:30 PM
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30. one hardly knows where to start
but hey, thanks for the laugh. Paul Sheldon Foote. A loonytarian, eh? Kewl.
http://www.liberty66.org/
As an elected member of the Republican Party Central Committee, Los Angeles County (1990 to 1992) and as a conservative Republican candidate for the California State Assembly endorsed by the California Republican Assembly (1992), my conservative views should have been welcome at any truly conservative forum.
... and yet the freepers banned him. Life can be so confusing.

So, like, is Karl Rove a neo-Trotyskite? And are the Mujahedin communists or ... what?

I have little doubt that I got my signed letter of thanks from Massoud Rajavi before you could have found Iran on a map. Possibly before you were born, I wouldn't know. A dear friend of mine was killed at a front in the armed struggle between the Mujahedin and the Iranian régime, some years ago now.

But yes indeed: the cult of the Rajavis became a little much for me, and my criticism of it became a little much for them (although I plan to hold them all to the promise to name an alleyway in Tehran after me, come the revolution). I am now not in contact with people in the organization, any more than I am now in the kind of contact with the Tamil liberation movement that I once was. All sovereignty/liberation movements seem to contain the seed of their own destruction within them, and the ability of power-hungry leaders to co-opt them is often it. Foreign criticism is often pointless, however; the problems are not ours to solve.

Funny, though, how the imperial interference is so often at the real root of it all. Had it not been for the Shah and his US puppetmasters, things would be very different in Iran, no?

... the likelihood of some sinister campaign being undertaken in order to promote more war in the ME is not as illusory as you may think.

I don't believe that was our topic. Our topic seems to have been loony conspiracy theories, and I'm afraid I'm just not interested in 'em.

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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:43 AM
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11. Ya.
The CIA is planting stories in... The Scotsman.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:08 AM
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15. The propaganda comes from all sides, and the pro-war crowd never rests.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 05:23 PM
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24. Good to see ya yibbehobba...
when you jump in on the other side I know I'm on the right track. ;-)

I think however, that you should give the British Intelligence services a bit more credit... they do after all pay the pin money of many a hack and it can't all be wasted!
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 08:44 AM
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12. Did the article say she was sentanced to death?
No, it did not.

A women 5 years ago was sentanced to death not her.
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:34 PM
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22. Yes, that's very true but
given what we have seen in the past for "crimes" of this nature, it is quite likely that she will be executed. And most likely it will be done by stoning. So, yeah, they haven't said that she has been apprehended and convicted yet, nor what her punishment will be. BUT if this is true, I hope that she can get out of the country. That's my naive 2 cents on this matter.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 09:57 AM
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14. Exactly. Remember Rummy's plan to plant propaganda in foreign press.
Frankly, ANY STORY about Iran that filters into our press is given extra scrutiny given our government's proclivity for PSYOPS for domestic consumption.

J
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 10:09 AM
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16. It COULD be a plant ... does it mean it IS a plant?
Well-designed disinfo is plausible. The only way to really find out is to check with the local Iraqi "authorities". Until we get credible confirmation, it anyone's guess.

Well-designed disinfo is destructive ...

--p!
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 03:04 PM
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21. I agree. Any story about Iran needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:50 PM
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31. Yeah, but let's not spin reality here. They do stone women to death in Iran.
All the time. And they have been since 1979. That doesn't mean we should invade Iran--of course not. But let's not make light of these people's deaths because it isn't politically convenient.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 04:55 PM
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38. They stoned women...
before 1979. I had a friend go to Iran back in the days of the Shah to do work. When the folks saw her red hair, they were ready to stone her-she got out with her life. I have no doubt about this story and their law is their law and I'll keep my nose out of it. I do have trouble swallowing the story about Al Quida disbursing and sending their troops through a new route opened up in Iran. That smells like PSYOP to me.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 09:42 PM
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33. Iran still regularly sentences people to death by stoning. Although ..
the counbtry recognizes the international embarrassment associated with the stonings, and hence denies that stonings are carried out at present, sentencing certainly continues, togerther with sporadic reports of executions by stoning.


Feminist Daily News Wire
August 16, 2006
Iran Stops Stoning Sentence for Ashraf Kolhari

After receiving a petition with signatures from over 100 Iranian women's rights activists and 4,000 concerned individuals, Iran Ayatollah Shahroudi has acted to stop the execution of Ashraf Kolhari, a mother of four who was sentenced to death by stoning for having sex outside of marriage. Kolhari’s sentence was protested by human rights and women’s rights organizations across the world, objecting to the cruel and unusual punishment to which she was condemned for having an affair. In response to Kolhari’s situation, over 5,300 Feminist Majority Foundation activists sent emails to Ayatollah Shahroudi and the United Nations Human Rights High Commissioner to protest Kolhari’s execution and the practice of stoning ...
http://feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=9829


DEATH PENALTY:
Seven Women Face Stoning in Iran
Alison Langley*

BERLIN, Sep 29 (IPS) - Amnesty International has issued an urgent appeal calling on its members to write letters to the Republic of Iran asking them not to stone seven women. Nearly all of the women have been sentenced to die by stoning for adultery. Officially Iran had placed a moratorium on the cruel and painful practise in 2002, but Amnesty claims sentencing continues. The group has received credible reports that two people were stoned to death in May. The United Nations Human Rights Committee has ruled that treating adultery and fornication as criminal offences does not comply with international human rights standards. "The sentence of execution by stoning for adultery breaches Iran's commitment under article 6(2) of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights that death sentences will be imposed ‘only for the most serious crimes'," Amnesty wrote in its appeal.
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=34939


Last Updated: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005, 18:19 GMT
Iran denies execution by stoning

Iran has fiercely denied that it executes juvenile criminals or stones people to death, as some human rights groups have alleged. "In the Islamic republic, we do not see such things being carried out," said judiciary spokesman Jamal Karimirad ... Last month, Amnesty International said it feared Iran was about to carry out a sentence of stoning against a woman convicted of adultery ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4166137.stm


Friday, 27 December, 2002, 15:16 GMT
Iran stops stoning of women adulterers

Iran has halted stoning as a form of capital punishment for women, a senior judiciary official in Iran has been quoted as saying. The head of the judiciary is reported to have instructed judges not to implement the sentence, which is in line with a strict interpretation of Islamic law ... In practice, although the stoning of adulteresses remains on the statute books, it has become extremely rare. There were two cases in the first half of 2001, but they were the first for many years and there have not been any reported since ...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2609597.stm

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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-10-06 11:29 AM
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18. Porn is more powerful than Islam.
People LOVE sex. They love to see other people haveing sex. And they love to see themselves having sex. Thruout Islamic nations porn DVD's are the hottest black market items having a far more powerfull sales draw than drugs.

If Iran wants to kill it's prominent actresses for making the porn they are already watching in many of their houses they will pay a price. The Mulluhs only drag themselves down this way.
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 07:53 PM
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32. DIsgusting Animals...
Yep - anyone who supports or participates in 'stoning' is a barbarian. There's no grey for me on this issue. No 'cultural sensitivity'. However, it is not up to us to enforce a correction to this problem, it is up to the people of Iran to decide they won't tolerate it.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:21 PM
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35. There is good evidence that lethal injection is barbaric too
I have read reports recently that say it is probably excruciatingly painful for the condemned.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 10:04 PM
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34. the man in the film, who is now a fugitive
Seems like his alibi( or is it Ali Baba there?) could simply be he was honoring his nation's fugitive name "I ran".
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-13-06 06:15 PM
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39. An unfunny comment for an unfunny topic. n/t
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-11-06 11:34 PM
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36. It does not say that she faces stoning
She faces getting a lashing and having her reputation damaged. The man faces a lashing and jail time because he distributed pornography. While this might sound barbaric, it is not nearly as bad as some of you made it out to be. After all, people in Singapore get caned for littering.
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