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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:15 PM
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O.J. did book solely for ‘blood money’
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 05:16 PM by RamboLiberal
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15851678/

O.J. Simpson told The Associated Press he participated in the ill-fated “If I Did It” book and interview project for one reason — personal profit, acknowledging that any financial gain was “blood money.”

“This was an opportunity for my kids to get their financial legacy,” Simpson said in interviews this week with the AP after the book deal was abandoned by its publisher. “My kids understand. I made it clear that it’s blood money, but it’s no different than any of the other writers who did books on this case.”

<snip>

Simpson said he was convinced the book would have been a best-seller.

“My kids would have been coming into a lot of money,” he said, adding he desperately needs the cash because his retirement funds are dwindling.

<snip>

Simpson, 59, said his NFL pension pays only $1,700 a month and the private pension he amassed during the days when he was a TV pitchman and sports commentator is being halved next month because he’s had to dip into the principal.

:nopity: Cry me a river OJ. Your kids can earn a living just like the rest of us. In fact they might be better off to do so. Wonder if OJ is a Repuke? He sure sounds like one!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:22 PM
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1. Yeah O.J. crummy things happen when you off your ex-wife
Only O.J. would blame the need for money on his kids....who just might have preferred to have their mother. This guy will come to a bad end one day.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:32 PM
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43. yes
he has a lot of bad karma to work off.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #43
49. OJ is the only person whose approval ratings are less than Cheney's
By far the worse person living in America.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:23 PM
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2. Does he mean
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 05:27 PM by votesomemore
Nicole's kids? They would have had a lot more money if he hadn't killed thier mother because he would still be a legit celeb and not a criminal.

That means he expects us to believe he would have given it to the Browns? I guess the judgment would take care of that.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:19 PM
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12. The Browns and
the Goldmans..they both were awarded money from the civil suit. I wonder if it's accrued any interest by now?
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:48 PM
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3. Odd...I distinctly remember reading during the civil trial that his NFL
pension was nearly $25,000 per month.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:02 PM
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10. I recall that too......
g
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:38 AM
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36. Finding that killer ain't cheap, you know.
Do you have any idea what a membership at the Doral costs these days? :sarcasm:
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 05:57 PM
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4. he didn't do it. none of you have one fucking bit of proof
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 05:59 PM by anotherdrew
sick of hearing this bullshit, you have no proof, there are plenty of other possibilities of who did it, but you won't even consider them, ignorant jackasses all. and that's not personal, it's a broad brush approach.

he was found innocent, the "civil trial" was a sham, and should not have been permitted, the standard of proof in a civil trial is a joike compared to the criminal.

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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 06:04 PM
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5. whoa...

you don't care much for overwhelming evidence, do you? That with DNA and all. :eyes:

Well, you're entitled to believe what you believe. But the decision of a jury does not always mean justice (ask some folks in Mississippi in the 50's)
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 06:13 PM
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6. ask some folks .....................
that's an unfair comparison.x(
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 06:16 PM
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7. how so?
My point is exactly as stated, a decision by the jury does not always result in justice. That, in the minds of many, is very applicable in both cases.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:47 PM
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16. see post #15 for a list of infothat should make anyone think twice n/t
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 06:19 PM
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8. He wasn't found innocent
He was found not guilty.

Those are two different things altogether. The fact that you ignorantly assert the former discredits you generally on this matter.

For the record, I saw a good deal of the trial, and I would have probably voted not guilty as well. But that doesn't mean I think he's innocent. The civil trial had a different result because the burden of proof is different. I would have voted him culpable in the civil trial. As it stands, it takes a lot for me to convict somebody of a capital murder, and there were too many shenanigans going on with the evidence for me to have done so. But do I think he did it? You damn skippy. It's the sad case of a guilty man who was framed, basically.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:07 PM
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11. how many appeals has he filed on his civil judgment? If i was innocent
and had a huge civil judgment filed against me and i was Innocent then i would literally spend the rest of my life trying to clear my name.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:23 PM
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13. and if the only way he can do it is by wrecking his ex-wifes?
and still, how could he prove a negative?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 08:27 PM
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14. i'd take the risk, think about it, a civil judgment condemns you as a murderer
forever, you're innocent but in order not to besmirch the memory of your ex wife you just keep quiet? I would think he be more concerned about his kids mental health and what they'll have to deal with for the rest of their lives. I have my own oj theory that i won't bother sharing because the 2 times i did people thought i was nuts.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:14 PM
Response to Reply #4
20. Go back to sleep.
I mean after all, American Idol isn't on tonight, so what else do you have to do with your brain?
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:33 PM
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25. never seen American Idol, a favorite of yours? America Idle is more like it
this is not my pet hobby horse and I'm done with it, just wanted to inject some doubt, conventional wisdom can be wrong ya know. One day the truth may come out and some of us will be 'proven' wrong, for now, you know where I'm placing my bet.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #4
28. So?
Writing a book, for which he admitted was "blood money", about how he WOULD have killed the mother of his children does not give you a glimpse into his soul?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 07:48 PM
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9. I'm not getting something.
If the money goes straight to the kids, how is it personal profit? And if it doesn't go straight to the kids, how does it not belong to the Goldman family first?
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:43 PM
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15. *** What the media did not tell people. Lots of widely unknown info here ***
Edited on Wed Nov-22-06 09:50 PM by anotherdrew
The media did not tell people:
that a report was submitted to prosecutor Marcia Clark a week or so after the killings indicating that Mark Fuhrman had a sexual interest in Nicole Brown Simpson and may well have had an affair with her;
that Mark Fuhrman was the head of a white supremacist group within the Los Angeles Police Department called WASP (“White Anglo-Saxon Policemen”);
that O.J. and Nicole Simpson were receiving death threats from white supremacist groups (including some affiliated with the Los Angeles Police Department);
that Judge Lance Ito’s wife was the highest ranking female member of the LAPD;
that Ito’s wife had been Fuhrman’s watch commander and had to discipline Fuhrman when he wrote “KKK” on the Martin Luther King Holiday on the station house calendar;
that Ito’s wife later claimed she had no recollection of Fuhrman and that, therefore, Judge Ito had no conflict of interest;
that Fuhrman lied on the stand during the pre-trial hearings about where he was and what he was doing on the night of the killings;
that Nicole wasn’t living in fear of O.J.—she had a pizza party at O.J.’s a few weeks before the killings;
that all of the principles in the case had links to “organized vice’;
that Nicole appears to have been working as a call girl for Heidi Fleiss’s ring (the call girl operation of “the Hollywood Madam”);
that Ron Goldman was openly gay and had no passionate interest in Nicole;
that Ron Goldman may well have been working as a gay prostitute and that he was receiving death threats from his jealous gay lover;
that Michael Nigg—a defense witness—was murdered shortly before he was to testify;
that Casimir “Butch Casey” Sucharski—a reputed organized crime associate of O.J.’s from his playing days was murdered shortly after being written about in the Buffalo News;
that Cowlings and Robert Kardashian (O.J.’s friend and attorney) were under investigation by a grand jury for possible involvement in the largest sports-betting ring in California;
that Cowlings was a driver and bodyguard for Joey Ippolito, a major Southern California organized crime figure;
that Nicole testified in her divorce testimony that the New Year’s eve incident was the only time O.J. had been violent with her;
that Duane Garrett—a Bay Area AM radio talk show host—reported that O.J. had approached by Edward J. DeBartolo, Jr. (the owner of the San Francisco 49’ers) and offered millions of dollars to become the first black NFL franchise owner;
that O.J. (according to Garrett) turned the offer down because of the alleged organized crime connections of DeBartolo;
that Garrett began receiving death threats shortly after he made the report;
that roughly a year after making the report, Garrett went off the Golden Gate Bridge (an alleged suicide);
that the Mezzaluna restaurant (at which Ron Goldman worked and which was managed by Nicole’s boy friend) was well known to have been an organized crime front;
that Ron Goldman’s father is alleged in a book published in Sweden to be a money-launderer for organized crime;
that Denise Brown (Nicole’s sister) was dating Tony “the Animal” Fiatto (a former mob enforcer turned Federal informant);
that there is abundant, irrefutable evidence that the LAPD falsified evidence to frame O.J.;
that the Los Angeles County grand jury would not indict O.J.;
that witnesses who saw the real killers were intimidated into silence;
that knowledgeable inside sources allege that the killing of Ron and Nicole was videotaped—the ultimate snuff flick.

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the O.J. case was the perversion of the judicial process and the establishment of legal precedents that fundamentally undermine centuries of Anglo-Saxon legal tradition. The California legislature passed a special law, virtually in secret, which allowed Nicole’s “diary” to be introduced as evidence. The volume was not, however, a diary but a thought journal that was maintained for her therapist. It included her dreams and fantasies. With that ruling, California law (and potentially U.S. law) reverted to the Salem Witch Trials. In the civil case, one of the principal factors deciding the case for the plaintiffs was the introduction of some crudely forged pictures of O.J. wearing “Bruno Magli shoes.” One set of the forged pictures showed O.J. wearing what purport to be “gray” Bruno Magli shoes. Bruno Magli has never made a gray shoe! This evidentiary travesty was allowed to stand because O.J.’s counsel was prevented from examining the evidence against his client!
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I'm not an expert on this case, but the above list of 'issues' is far from complete.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:02 PM
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18. And OJ's defense relied on the glove not fitting, but none of this?
Give me a break!

Thanks for the laugh dude, seriously! :rofl: :eyes: :rofl: :eyes: :rofl: :eyes:
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:09 PM
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19. whatever n/t
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:51 PM
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27. Nice response
Oh and btw, do you have citations for any of that mess?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:55 AM
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39. that's why those lawyers get paid the big bucks
they can make people believe ANYTHING. Well there is a bit of poetic justice - OJs biggest defenders in court are both dead now
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:24 PM
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22. That is more far-out than any of the crazy 9/11
theories that I've seen floated around.

Seriously. That "evidence" is like Karl Rove created "math."
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 06:22 AM
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32. With the media hysteria going on
they would have paid MILLIONS to get the goods that you put forth...the "Frame/ cover up" by the LAPD
HAD to be known by HUNDREDS of people that would have loved to get on T.V.
Yet, nobody came forward, not ONE!

Millions for the story and it goes begging.

That motherfucker is a killer, he got away with it, and only blind fools think otherwise.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:41 AM
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37. Citations, please. this isn't a Yahoo board. nt
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:43 PM
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50. My, oh my! Organized crime? Arraigned suicides?
A white supremest group within the LAPD connecting the judge?! I too am no expert on this case, but unless you back up these declarations with some sources, I call BS!

P.S., thanks for the laugh, though.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 09:57 PM
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17. He "only" gets $1700/month for doing nothing?
Strangely, all the media have been saying he gets $400,000/year from the NFL, which boils down to $1700 every day and a half....
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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 10:42 PM
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21. I wanna
read the damn book! Couldn't give a shit who gets the profits....
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:26 PM
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24. I won't be surprised if it "leaks"
it almost sounded like the interview had already been recorded as well.

despite what I think of his guilt, I still find it a disgusting enterprise that doesn't reflect well at all on him to even consider doing this, much less to have gone so far with it.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 03:45 AM
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30. I would've like
to read the book too. :-(
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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:43 AM
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40. Maybe we still can...
I actually MET Juice at a Pro Am Golf tourney in Miami in Oct 2005. He is still the most charming devil on earth. I had an incoming mobile phone call from my Mom while chatting up the Juice and put him on the phone with her. He was all polite, "Yes Ma'am. No, Ma'am, got arthritis in both knees....I'll be 58 on my birthday" ....It was a stone cold trip!
Yeah, he had his day in court alrightt, same as the Simi Valley cops who beat the shit outta Rodney King. Proving that two wrongs don't make a right.
Juice has his pension and it is a big one, nobody cnan touch it and if he needs "blood " money it is to no doubt subsidize his obvious coke problem. Been there, done that. OJ was tweadking big time at the Micosukkee Invitational Pro Am. But ya never expect to just run across teh most notorious person on planet eart...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:25 PM
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23. He could become a greeter at Walmart if he's running short of money
There are plenty of jobs out there.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-22-06 11:36 PM
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26. He was going to use the money to broaden his search fro the 'real' killers.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 01:43 AM
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29. I hope that asshole
visits a farm before he gets too old and falls in a threshing machine.

That's the only Karma equivalent I can think of, other than being chewed to pieces by a roving pack of Rabid Rottweillers..

He TRACKED HER BLOOD EVERYWHERE, and he had plenty of Motive. That's all I need to know.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:44 AM
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31. Like I care about OJ's personal problems. (nt)
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:22 AM
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33. It's really funny watching everyone
chomp and chew on that hook he threw in the water, instead of ignoring this. There is no excuse for the media putting one second of airtime or spilling one drop of ink on this, but they went for it. OJ sells--folks get paid when he pops up because the media is always going to be there pointing it out--and the commentators get their face time and sell their books, too.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 07:44 AM
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34. Blood money which Rupert Murdoch was gleefully willing to finance. nt
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 08:31 AM
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35. Interesting the way words can be twisted -
I saw and listened to the reported statement. O.J. did not say he did the book for blood money. He was talking about Fox and he said "I consider it blood money."

Now don't jump all over me. I did not say he was innocent or anything - just pointing out they way his words were twisted to imply he said something he did not.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 09:52 AM
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38. he didn't do it, he just likes PRETENDING he did!
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 09:57 AM by Skittles
D I S G U S T I N G and I hope the people who bought that steaming pile of so-called "reasonable doubt" finally see through that bastard
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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 11:58 AM
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41. Juices pension
is more like $250,000 per year which was about the max when he retired. He rolls a big Lexus SUV so he shouldn't be hurtin' other than an obvious coke problem I referred to in another post....Even the Daughter, Sydney, drives a Lexus as well. But them kids gotta be screwed up in the head....
Reagardlass I WANNA READ THE DAMN BOOK!!!!
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 12:17 PM
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42. OJ lies, his NFL pension is 25000$ a month
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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 04:03 PM
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45. You are right
I said year in my post. Meant to say, "month" 250K. Juice mae big bank a L-)-N-G time, no doubt his retirement is gonna be fat!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 03:30 PM
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44. Your kids UNDERSTAND
Edited on Thu Nov-23-06 03:32 PM by rocknation
that the only way for them to have money is for you to pimp their own mother's corpse? That would be appalling even if you WEREN'T the killer!

:crazy:
rocknation
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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 05:28 PM
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46. kick just becasue
I like this thread and nobody is on line this time of day on Thanksgiving. Them what don't fall for shoppin' at midnight madnes will soon be on line. That Race to the midnight madness is a 'repuke' activity anyway. In my opinion of course....
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 05:33 PM
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47. As a starving college student, I'd LOVE that pension...
1700/month sure is a hell of a lot of money to me.

Much less the 400K NFL pension that other posters in this thread have said OJ is hiding, more or less.

Cry me a river, OJ. Awwwww, you poor baby. :eyes:
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Blue in Bama Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-23-06 05:43 PM
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48. So would ...
....anybody. But it has more with pro ball players inflated salaries than it does OJ. The law under which he and his pension are protected is realy a good law. A Democratic law.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-24-06 02:22 PM
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51. Especially because the civil judgment
he refuses to pay would go to his children.
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