WP: Mary Cheney and Her Partner Are About to Be Moms

[DeepModem Mom]

Mary Cheney and Partner Are About to Be Moms
By Amy Argetsinger and Roxanne Roberts
Wednesday, December 6, 2006; Page C03

Mary Cheney, the vice president's openly gay daughter, is pregnant. She and her partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, are "ecstatic" about the baby, due in late spring, said a source close to the couple.

It's a baby boom for grandparents Dick and Lynne Cheney: Their older daughter, Elizabeth, went on leave as deputy assistant secretary of state before having her fifth child in July. "The vice president and Mrs. Cheney are looking forward with eager anticipation to the arrival of their sixth grandchild," spokesman Lea Anne McBride said last night.

Cheney, 37, was a key aide to her father during the 2004 reelection campaign and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL. Poe, 45, a former park ranger, is renovating their Great Falls home.

News of the pregnancy will undoubtedly reignite the debate about gay marriage. During the campaign, Mary Cheney was criticized by gay activists for not being more publicly supportive of same-sex marriage. Her father said people "ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to" but deferred to the president's policy supporting a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages. Cheney herself called the proposed amendment "a gross affront to gays and lesbians everywhere" in her book, "Now It's My Turn: A Daughter's Chronicle of Political Life," which was published in May.

Cheney has described her relationship with Poe -- whom she took to last year's White House dinner honoring Prince Charles and Camilla-- as a marriage. The two met in 1988 while playing ice hockey and began dating four years later. They moved from Colorado to Virginia a year ago to be closer to Cheney's family. In an interview with the Post six months ago, when asked if she and Poe wanted children, Cheney said that was a "conversation I think I should have with Heather first."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/05/AR2006120501712.html

[NMDemDist2]

1. ROFL watch the freeper heads explode over this one. K&N n/t

[K8-EEE]

25. Here's The Link To The FR Head Explosions!

hOOO BOY....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1749133/posts#comment?q=1

EXCERPTS:

I hope people here can muster some common decency and show a little of the dignity and class the Cheney family demonstrates.

I see no dignity in violating the principals set out in the bible on how to procreate a child.
I feel sorry for the Cheney family but Mary is their burden and is not for us to carry.
I believe that God may have a different take on artificially manufacturing a child.
You plea reeks of more feminazi emasculation of the already weak American male.

[truthisfreedom]

37. and what about the right-wing stance on perversion and gay marriage?

aren't these so-called "parents" going to pollute the mind of their child with perverted activity? WHAT ABOUT THE ABUSE???


i wouldn't want to be cheney right now.

[Habibi]

50. "Feminazi emasculation"

I like it! :thumbsup:

[Brazenly Liberal]

54. Mary is their BURDEN????????????

I raised two boys to be smart, caring, funny, decent gay men. My most generous wish for every mother is that she could have a "burden" as wonderful as mine.

[K8-EEE]

95. Awwww.....that's so cool!

They are lucky too, whenever the RW nutjobs throw out these phony stats re: how awful it is to be gay I think, yeah it really is if your parents/community/church/whatever is all like these people! THEY ARE THE PROBLEM!

[deadparrot]

71. Dignity and class from the Cheney clan?

:spray:

[Irreverend IX]

85. For posterity's sake...

Take a minute to read whitehouse.org's Q&A session with Mary Cheney.

http://www.whitehouse.org/ask/mary-cheney.asp

Chastity Bono, from Los Angeles, CA writes:
Mary – I hope you take some comfort in the knowledge that you're not the only Sister of Sappho to be publicly humiliated by her famous Republican father. I just want you to know that no matter what happens, you will always have a muscular (yet hairless) shoulder to cry on here in Hollywood.

Mary Cheney:
Humiliated? I'm not humiliated! Why don't you choke on my strap-on, you Tinseltown pigdyke cun–

Mary Matalin:
Ur, Mary so appreciates your support.

[superconnected]

100. Yep, that's the class of mary chenney and her dad.

The vice prez who says the f-word.

[Maine-ah]

84. roflmao!

To: decal
To save America for the long run we may need to open a "GOP Stud Farm."

Of course no Rino's could be introduced but we could find a great breading stock starting with Ann Coulter and Michele Malkin.

On the other side of the fence we could start with Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Rummy, Bush and Cheney.

30 posted on 12/05/2006 11:54:27 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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[LeftishBrit]

86. Thanks - you have just given me nightmares!

The next horror movie - "GOP Stud Farm". Will make "Rosemary's Baby" and "The Omen" look like warm and fuzzy sentimental family stories!

[tishaLA]

90. "Breeding Stock"? ""Stud farm"

Surely this is parody. Oh dear god I hope it is.

[TexasLawyer]

92. that's a classic

They don't have a "sarcasm" icon on FR, but I'm not sure this person wasn't dead serious.

[K8-EEE]

94. EWWWWWW!!!!! THAT'S DISGUSTING....

I missed that one, gak!! Ann would be on the stud RWer farm for sure, LOL, but he's got her on the wrong side of the fence HA!

[SoCalDem]

102. Offspring? Butt-ugly and mean n/t

[K8-EEE]

97. Freeper Moran: "That's ADNORMAL!"

"That kid is being raised w/o a Father in an adnormal situation."


:rofl:

[JoFerret]

120. Donald-Dick

<<<Perhaps Rummy is the proud Pappy and the Presidential Election for 2048 will begin the day the baby is born,

Donald Dick Rumsfeld-Cheney for President 2048!>>>

[mac56]

48. My favorite freep wisdom:

"I don't want to hear about people's sex lives, unlike most of the lemmings and sheeple in this country, getting their news from E!, People Magazine and Jon Stewart. What happened to the United States of America that I grew up in?"

Errr...they sure didn't mind hearing all about Monica and the blue dress, did they?!

HY-PO-CRITES.

[Arkansas Granny]

53. Really! How do you think that Fox News, Rush and the rest are

going to handle this one?

[K8-EEE]

96. THAT boggles the mind.....

Truly their hypocrisy just about knocks you off your feet, doesn't it?? Amazing...they're quite insane!

[Infinite Hope]

2. This should open a whole new can of morality worms. n/t

[Joe Bacon]

60. Yes, and I wonder why Dobson is silent on this?

And I sure haven't heard a lot from Mr Morality since he "withdrew" from Pastor Teddy's Healing Team :evilgrin:

[No Exit]

118. Maybe he's the father and is keeping a low profile to dodge child support?

Hey--SOMEBODY'S sperm went to make this tiny Cheney.

The beauty of it is, either it was done in a medical office--through artificial insemination--or Mary had to be sexually UNFAITHFUL to her life partner Heather. So in Freeper World, either choice is, like, a SIN or something.

[orleans]

3. i'd say congratulations if it were anyone else. now...according to all their

"family values" crap--shouldn't they be MARRIED before having children?

[Erika]

9. People having children out of wedlock

Isn't this a total breakdown of morals according to the religious right? And Cheney's daughter?

[No Exit]

30. Yes, it is. But then Granddad Cheney broke down those morals a long time ago

but the religious right didn't notice--they were too busy peering into gay people's bedrooms.

It seems blood and guts go unnoticed by people who are as obsessed with sex as are the religious right. Although they may have gotten a little bit charged up when they saw those pyramids of naked bodies from Abu Ghraib.

[bananas]

4. Who's the father? nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

6. Ken Mehlman?

:shrug:

[No Exit]

33. Nah...probably someone who could get it up...

[underpants]

59. David Crosby?

:bounce:

[Junkdrawer]

72. Self delete - posted wrong spot...

[BenDavid]

105. Wouldn't it be a kick in the

teeth if years ago William jefferson Clinton before he married went into a Sperm Bank and made a donation and through a search of the records this is his....Oh help me L-rd!

[last1standing]

5. That poor child.

To be stuck in a household of hypocrisy and self-loathing is a terrible fate to wish on anyone.

[Syrinx]

7. who donated the fertilizer?

Inquiring minds, etc.

Don't tell me. David Crosby?

[donheld]

124. It was immaculate conception

Satan is the father of the new virgin Mary's child.

[ruggerson]

8. This is truly the Twilight Zone

the daughter of the Vice President of the most gay-hostile administration of modern times describes her relationship as a marriage and is evidently overjoyed at the prospect of motherhood.

Hey Mary, what about the tens of millions of gay families that do not have tens of millions of inherited Halliburton stock options at their disposal?

Ordinary gay and lesbian families, because of your father's administration Mary, do not have equal inheritance rights, equal taxation nor equal social security survivorship rights.

Ordinary gay and lesbian families, Mary, are left to suffer outside the federal legal system, because they are not recognized as a legal family unit, because of your father and his administration.

Ordinary gay and lesbian families, Mary, love their children just as much as you plan to do.

They just wish they weren't under siege from your father's administration.

[aaronbees]

39. Absolutely, completely Orwellian

History just keeps writing its own hellish satire. Congrats to the couple, no doubt, but this administration has been hellbent on destroying the rights of gay and lesbian families. Doesn't anyone in the mainstream press see the absurdity of this?

[Eugene]

10. "Cheney has described her relationship...as a marriage..."

Mary Cheney just pegged the meter on the BS detector.
Hypocrisy overload.

[Erika]

12. This is so damn sick on the hypocrisy n/t

[MADem]

22. But her spouse doesn't get health care benefits, does she? Some fucking marriage!!! NT

[Maeve]

49. If your family is rich enough, health benefits don't matter

And the Cheneys are more than rich enough....

Ah, well...luck and happiness to the little family.

[MADem]

55. I wish them a dose of 'everyday life,' myself. I think that Mary Cheney is a horrid person

and I feel sorry for her kid, who will probably grow up to be horribly conflicted when he or she realizes how Mom was a charter member of the "Do as I say, not as I do" club. Anyone who can work against her own, pull that bullshit with Coors beer, and suck up to a political party that wishes her dead, is a sickass person. It's not a self-esteem thing with her, it's an "I'm rich, so who needs those quaint "rights" that everyone else who is like me, or who knows someone who is like me, or who just has a sense of human decency, is fighting for? Fuck them!! The fools!!!"

And no amount of money can make that attitude 'right.' She's vicious. A total sellout.

[KitSileya]

79. Health care benefits? How about no rights to the child?

If Mary Cheney's carrying the child, her partner has no rights to the child, thanks to her "in-laws". Most likely, if she adopts the child, the Cheney's would still be able to keep it away from her if something should happen to Mary. If they break up, she'll have her legal battles in the courtrooms of anti-gay, hostile judges appointed by her "in-laws", and she won't be entitled to anything Mary has earned during their "marriage" - even worse, as it seems, since Mary's partner is to be a stay-at-home mom (seeing as she is a former park ranger.)

Talk about selling your soul to the devil.

[MADem]

123. Virginia is for haters....wonder how long before they move to MA?? NT

[SeattleGirl]

11. The only thing I have to say about this is, Congratulations

to the moms-to-be!

[ruggerson]

13. Yes, now that they worked to re elect the most anti gay administration in modern times

n/t

[Erika]

14. You think republicans have double standards?

They suckered the right wing fundies into voting for them because of their anti-gay stance, and yet the VP has this family member and relationship. The right wing zealots got taken for one hell of a ride.

[ruggerson]

16. It's fucking unbelievable

and the homophobic Washington press corps lets them get away with it.

[Erika]

19. The press is still afraid to be independent of the Bush govt

Bush hit them hard with the psychological warfare of either you are with us or against us. We have for the most part lost an independent press. Hope they get their heads on straight and develop a spine.

[No Exit]

28. "The VP has this family member and relationship." Let's give the bastard a medal.

So Mary Cheney is openly gay. Good for her. Just as those who look unfavorably upon a gay person (I strongly disagree with such persons) should not automatically condemn that person's relatives, those who look favorably on a gay person should not automatically impute that merit to that person's relatives.

We can think what we want about Mary Cheney being a good person, or a good example, or whatever other good thing we want to think. But her father is a fucking murderer and that's that. No, it's not her fault.

I have no idea if Mary Cheney is good, bad, or indifferent. But I know she had that job at Coors. Coors is big into republican influence buying. And she's had other jobs through her father's influence. I believe she was his campaign manager, for example. Just a gut feeling, but I can't help but wonder if she, like Junior, Jeb, etc., and numerous other spawns of these evil bastards, is just another silver-spoon offspring who has had everything handed to her on a silver platter, from day one. And if that's the case, she's no better than Junior. Except Junior can't get pregnant....THANK GOD.

[SeattleGirl]

29. Please see my post #24.

As I said, maybe I ought not to have said anything, given that I am tired, but I did. So #24 was my response to THAT.

[theHandpuppet]

42. Mary Cheney made a six figure salary running Dad's re-election campaign

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20041101/kim

Congratulate Mary Cheney on her pregnancy? When hell freezes over.

[No Exit]

67. She had to work for minimum wage for a little while so she could learn about the working world

Of course he paid her only 6 figures! Can't let the kid get spoiled, can we??

He was just being a Good Dad and letting little Junior (Mary is his Junior, isn't she?) see how the working world functions, so she could later get out there on her own and get a REAL job like Daddy's Job--stealing on an international level. THEN Baby Cheney will finally be a grown up member of the Cheney family. And just WON'T her sire and dam be proud!

Considering that--due to his penchant for stealing on a very large scale--Big Dick is probably now a trillionaire, I'd say six figures = minimum wage, to a member of the Cheney Thieving Family.:)

[Deja Q]

63. Doesn't matter. The zealots will still vote for them.

[SeattleGirl]

24. I do think that Mary has been hypocritical, no doubt about it.

And I dare say that many of us have been the same way, to one degree or another. Maybe not to the extent that Mary has. But think about it. Most of us tend to idealize our parents when we are very young. As we get older, we develop (most of us anyway) the ability to distinguish ourselves from our parents. We are able to see with open eyes, and see the faults of our parents. But, we are not always able to speak about those faults out loud.

I am not trying to excuse Mary's anti-gay actions by any means. But I am saying that just because she is Cheney's daughter, that does not necessarily mean it is any easier or harder for her to come to terms with the truth. In fact, maybe it is more difficult. Dick Cheney is a hypocrite extrodinaire. And maybe he has been that way all of Mary's life. I'm not a fan of the "This child will heal everything" school of thought, but maybe, just maybe, the child is more important than what some Fundie asshole thinks about Mary and her partner.

Perhaps I should not have posted at all, as I'm rather tired. But when I read the OP, I felt happy for Mary and her partner, because of lesbian friends of mine who have had children together. I cannot wish ill on them at all. What I can do is wish the best to the three of them, and hope that Mary can finally fully embrace who she is, and see the hypocrisy of her father and mother.

[No Exit]

32. No offense, but I don't give a tinker's dam about Mary. It's her father who

never fails to fill me with outrage.

Mary's no longer in politics (as far as I know--since she stopped being her father's campaign manager in the 2000 election). Mary, to my knowledge, has not condemned thousands of very young Americans to "drive around Iraq waiting to get blown up"--as one serviceman reportedly put it. Mary did not run from military service only to later cause the deaths of thousands of other persons, men, women, and children.

It's not Mary. It's her father. The baby's grandfather is a murderer. With a little luck (and a sudden heart attack for Dick), the kid won't have to know him for most of his/her life. Then Mary, her kid, and Elizabeth (who apparently seldom gets off her back), her kids, and Lynn, can all spend the rest of their days whooping it up with those billions of Halliburton/Iraq dollars. So, see... a happy ending after all!

[SeattleGirl]

35. I agree that Dick is the murderer, NOT Mary.

I also know that families are messy, crazy, loving, frustrating, anxiety-inducing, etc.

I will not put the blame on Mary for her father's actions, any more than I will put the blame upon myself for MY father's actions, which were not always the best they could be.

And I do wish Mary and her partner and their baby well. Maybe this will be a fresh start for them. One can only hope.

[theHandpuppet]

43. Maybe you ought to educate yourself on Mary's OWN actions...

... before you start passing out cigars.

[superconnected]

101. Wow, you missed her in '04?

She's a self appointed polical spokesman for her father.

The problem is she never shut's the fuck up. Why not check out her book. Her whole selfabsorbed story about how kerry told the world she was gay. She is an evil bitch and I'm not letting her off because she just happens to be a lesbian evil bitch, as I'm guessing you are actually letting her off for.

It's unlikely she could be an adequate parent. She hates humanity too much. She's not capable of trying to install any real values in a child. Why not google her and you can get her own words.

The only nice thing is, I know the republicans won't touch her with a 10 foot poll - like man coulter, only for Mary Chenney they'll will likely actually need a 100 foot poll. Coulter hasn't outed himself yet. Mary cheney, is a wart on their ass. And after darth cheney gets out of office or hopefully has a heart issue he can't walk out of the hospital from, Mary Cheney will be thrown away by the republicans. Nobody will want to hear about her - not the GOP or the DNC. She's already the GOPS embarassment and the DNC's horses ass joke, so she'll just have to raise her kids on all that stolen money from us, that her dad took from collusive deals.

We have a right not to like her. She's made herself a political spokesman, and is living on our dime.

[marshall]

103. What about the partner?

What's her name? Where is she from? What do we know about her? Where does she stand on the issues?

[superconnected]

107. In everything I've see, she stands next to mary.

I haven't seen/heard her speak for herself yet.

[No Exit]

114. I've never read a word she wrote, nor ever heard her say a single word...

and I'd like to keep it that way!:)

I don't doubt any part of what you told me, it's just that in a stroke of pure luck, Mary Cheney is one republican asshole whose spew I've managed to escape. (As opposed to the Coulter thing, or the Hannity creature, etc.)

Yes, she will one day live it up on MONEY STOLEN FROM US. That's the most galling part of the whole thing!

[theHandpuppet]

44. You talk about her as if she's a ten year old child

I can assure you that when she was lining her pockets with cash from her job with the Bush-Cheney re-election campaign she was an adult capable of making adult choices. I can assure you that even as she toured the country organizing/stumping for an administration which has persecuted MILLIONS of other gay families and parents she was an adult. And when she wasn't fattening her wallet c/o the Republican National Committee she was making her living as a professional lesbian for despicable companies such as Coors.

Sorry, but at some point Mary Cheney has to face the responsibility of her adult choices. Embrace who she is? She already has -- she's Daddy's rich Republican hypocrite whose family has embraced an administration which has torn apart gay families all over this country, torn the children from the arms of other gay parents, led to the persecution of millions of gays and lesbians and the suicide of gay children.

Screw her and the horse of hypocrisy she rode in on.

[theHandpuppet]

104. Dream on!

And while ten more American families today will mourn the loss of their children, Mary Cheney defends the slaughter in Iraq:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-dorchen/dick-cheneys-lesbian-dau_b_25927.html
Dick Cheney's Lesbian Daughter

EXCERPTS

"How could Mary Cheney not take a stand against the Hate Gay Couples amendment during the 2004 campaign? Why doesn't she speak out forcefully against it now, since she does admit she's against it? Why is she so much more interested in slamming everyone who dares criticize her father than those who would condemn her to eternal pain? The answer to these questions is that Mary Cheney, like her non-lesbian father, whom she loves very much, is a self-righteous liar and hypocrite with no respect for the intelligence of the citizens of the United States, no sense that there's a world of human and social needs beyond the sphere of desires and machinations propelling her father's self-serving enterprises, and no willingness to concede what the rest of the universe observes: that the invasion of Iraq is a horribly botched project, if not illegal and misbegotten from its very inception. In short, Mary Cheney is a neo-conservative.

(snipping)

And who knows better than Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter, whom he and Lynn love very much, that her father isn't the Darth Vader the media portray him as, that he gets up every morning thinking about how he can make this country safer, not about how to set up his friends to make millions in war profits so he can land back in the private sector on a cushion of gold? Mary Cheney's non-lesbian father wakes up every morning thinking of ways to make this country safer, that's why he shot that guy in the face. That's why he went hunting with Scalia - because if you don't hunt with a homophobic judge the country's not safe. That's why he constantly tries to subvert the separation of powers - the Constitution puts our nation at risk. That's why he got so mad at Joe Wilson for exposing the Niger uranium lie: that lie was an important part of keeping our country secure. That's why he keeps so many secrets, why he wouldn't release details of who sat on his energy task force - because if the people of the USA knew that, they'd know too much, and might be tortured and killed by al Qaeda for having that knowledge. Maybe he's afraid we'll crack under torture, or even something not technically torture like waterboarding, and give away the list of task force participants. But mainly he's afraid for our own safety. Because if there's one thing al Qaeda doesn't want, it's Americans knowing the details of how Dick Cheney is ripping them off.

My father doesn't care about polls or his public image, Mary Cheney says proudly. He doesn't spend much time worrying about what other people think. Yeah, bitch, he doesn't care about other people AT ALL. Except his intimate circle of sociopathic friends, family members and partners in crime. Which wouldn't be quite so bad if he didn't feel the need to screw so much of the world to accomplish his selfish goals.

(snipping)

"So the enigma is solved: lesbians can be just as selfish and evil as the rest of us. Yep, they're human, too, big news, I know. I'm very disappointed that, after Letterman wasted his interview picking at the pseudo-contradiction of a lesbian fascist, Terry Gross did the same damn thing. Why is she a lezzy supporting the Bush White House? Because her ideas about things are wrong. Her sense of the difference between right and wrong is wrong. How about asking the question, "How can you say the invasion of Iraq was exactly the right thing to do to keep this country safe when it clearly was not, you god damn selfish arrogant vile loaf of stinking fascism?" Or, "Why don't you and your father, if his motives are so pure, and if you love America so much, allow the people of the U.S. to rule themselves in democratic fashion rather than subverting public discussion about your policies at every possible opportunity?" (You god damn selfish arrogant vile loaf of stinking fascism.)

"But those puzzles, too, cease to boggle the mind. Because Mary Cheney and her father share more than just a lot of DNA, including probably a Y chromosome. They share a temperament, a philosophy, and a lack of character. They're almost the same person. She's really just a little Dick."

And from http://www.americanpolitics.com/20060518Young.html

Mary Cheney: Chip Off the Old Block
by Steve Young

May 18, 2006—HOLLYWOOD (apj.us)—Wednesday afternoon, on CNN's Situation Room, Wolf Blitzer asked Mary Cheney if President Bush or her father, Vice President Dick Cheney, have made any mistakes in dealing with Iraq.

Her answer?

"I think that they have handled Iraq exactly right."

Taken aback, Blitzer want to make sure he had heard right.

"No mistakes?"

Mary was nonplused.

"No mistakes."

Wolf tried again.

"2000 dead soldiers. $300 billion dollars."

Still, Mary thought Dad and W had been perfecto. Couldn't have done better.

Yet another...
Mary Cheney Stands Behind Dad on Iraq: http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1935960&page=1

[PurityOfEssence]

122. She was a sniveling coward who hid behind her family

SHE didn't stand up and complain that Kerry and Edwards had mentioned her; her sister, her mother and her father bellyached, whimpered, raged and hurled invectives FOR her. SHE didn't do a damned thing. If she was so hurt by being mentioned, why didn't she step up and defend herself? If she's so tender and frail, she shouldn't be getting paid huge salaries to go out and work in the real world, she should be a ward of the family living in some country estate somewhere.

She's the worst kind of loathsome, privileged asshole. Having taken jobs through family connections to fuck over people like herself, she doesn't even have the decency to show up in public and make her case.

This is selfishness and monarchic privilege writ large; she's a despicable parasite and should be hounded to no end if she ever deigns to show up in public.

Her calumny is the worst: greed, selfishness, hypocrisy, opportunism, betrayal and cowardice.

Not only has she relied on family connections for cushy jobs, those jobs have been one that have crushed and marginalized people with a same-sex orientation. She is the shadow ugliness of aristocracy.

[tavalon]

34. Ah, finally, some humanity

Yeah, so she's a hypocrite. Congrats, nonetheless.

[SeattleGirl]

36. Thanks, tavalon.

People are a mixture of their upbringing, of the ideas they are exposed to, of many different things. I don't like it that Mary campaigned for Darth Cheney, but as I am not in her shoes, I cannot cleanly and innocently make judgement against her.

My hope is that she and her partner and their baby live a happy, peaceful, openly acceptable life.

[tavalon]

83. That makes two of us. :)

[LaurenG]

47. Yes Seattle Girl, me too.

:hi: :thumbsup:

[SeattleGirl]

98. To all my detractors:

As I said, I am not oblivious to the things Mary Cheney has done. I am certainly not oblivious to her hypocrisy where gays and lesbians are concerned.

However, if the only way for me to convince you is to wish bad things upon her during her pregnancy, or hope that something goes wrong with the baby, or anything like that as punishment for what she has done, I'm not going to do it. It's not in me. Never has been, never will be.

[theHandpuppet]

106. You still don't get it, do you

There's a big damn difference between despising Mary Cheney and all she stands for and wishing ill on her baby, as you accuse your "detractors" of doing. If you want to pass out the cigars and congratulations to this heinous bitch go right ahead. While she's celebrating the anticipated arrival of a new child, ten more American families today will be mourning the loss of their own children in Iraq -- a war which Mary Cheney has openly defended, supported and for which she has campaigned.

Gee, now where do we sign up for those baby shower gifts?

[I Have A Dream]

109. SeattleGirl, you have a right to your voice here as much as anyone else.

This is a new child that's going to be coming into the world. For all that we know, this child could end up being an amazing person who is totally the opposite of the Cheney family's inclinations.

I'm hoping that the chid turns out to be an over-the-top liberal. I send it love and light -- lots and lots of light! :)

:hug:

[SeattleGirl]

111. Now THAT would be sweet!

A liberal Cheney! I love it!

[stellanoir]

113. I third IHAD's wish

that this kid will thrive and work tirelessly to heal the sins of their grand daddy. Happens a lot with third generations ya know?

May this kid prosper and help the underprivileged and redeem its heinous gene pool is my wish.

No Cigars here, just potential redemption is all.

New life should never be condemned before it has a chance to take a breath or find its wayyy.

To your detractors, I say "hope you get enlightened soon.
Good luck with that and perhaps check into the sins of your fathers. Everyone has some of those. tra la la"

LET'S MAYBE STOP PERPETUATING RETRIBUTION HERE AND HAVE A SMIDGEN OF HOPE FOR AN UNBORN CHILD."

again tra la la.

[theHandpuppet]

117. Who is condemning the baby?

Better put up or revise your accusations. The condemnations here are for the despicable Mary Cheney. I for one will not excuse her heinous greed and hypocrisy anymore than I excuse the crimes of George W. Bush for having grown up in a home of Nazi collaborators.

As far as Mary Cheney's baby goes, all I can say is, good luck kid. You'll need it.

[SeattleGirl]

119. And this whole thing started because I dared to congratulate them.

I don't have to explain anything to you or anyone else. I congratulated them, period. I did not stick up for her actions, I did not praise her hypocrisy, nothing. And yet people have piled on me as if I were holding Mary Cheney up as a fine example of how to be a good human being.

I do not have a problem, but I think a lot of people here do. I hope you remember this if someone ever attacks you or a member of your family, unless you are all perfect and without fault. I doubt that is the case, as no one is perfect or without fault. More's the pity that you don't seem able to see that.

[No Exit]

15. Obviously no one told Mary 'n' Heather that there wasn't a draft

Cheneys are at their most fertile/virile when there's a draft on.

[Erika]

17. Yeah, Cheney chose not to go to Vietnam because of his

other priorities, such as raising his family. Can anyone believe this guy is actually a VP of the U.S. after all this.

[No Exit]

27. "Raising his family"--BULLSHIT. He kills OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS.

"It was 1959 when Dick Cheney, then a student at Yale University, turned 18 and became eligible for the draft."

(snip)

"In February 1962, when Mr. Cheney was classified as 1-A — available for service — he was doing poorly at Yale. But the military was taking only older men at that point, and like others who were in college at the time, Mr. Cheney seemed to have little concern about being drafted.

In June, he left Yale. After returning home to Casper, a small city in east-central Wyoming, he worked as a lineman for a power company.

At that point, the Vietnam War was still just a glimmer on the horizon. In 1962, only 82,060 men were inducted into the service, the fewest since 1949. Mr. Cheney was eligible for the draft but, as he said during his confirmation hearings in 1989, he was not called up because the Selective Service System was taking only older men.

But by 1963, ferment in Vietnam was rising. Mr. Cheney enrolled in Casper Community College in January 1963 — he turned 22 that month — and sought his first student deferment on March 20, according to records from the Selective Service System. After transferring to the University of Wyoming at Laramie, he sought his second student deferment on July 23, 1963.

On Aug. 7, 1964, Congress approved the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, which allowed President Lyndon B. Johnson to use unlimited military force in Vietnam. The war escalated rapidly from there.

Just 22 days later, Mr. Cheney married his high school sweetheart, Lynne. He sought his third student deferment on Oct. 14, 1964.

In May 1965, Mr. Cheney graduated from college and his draft status changed to 1-A. But he was married, which offered him some protection.

In July, President Johnson announced that he was doubling the number of men drafted. The number of inductions soared, to 382,010 in 1966 from 230,991 in 1965 and 112,386 in 1964.

Mr. Cheney obtained his fourth deferment when he started graduate school at the University of Wyoming on Nov. 1, 1965.

On Oct. 6, 1965, the Selective Service lifted its ban against drafting married men who had no children. Nine months and two days later, Mr. Cheney's first daughter, Elizabeth, was born. On Jan. 19, 1966, when his wife was about 10 weeks pregnant, Mr. Cheney applied for 3-A status, the "hardship" exemption, which excluded men with children or dependent parents. It was granted.

In January 1967, Mr. Cheney turned 26 and was no longer eligible for the draft."

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/01/politics/campaign/01CHEN.html?ex=1398830400&en=1c0259e620183dd6&ei=5007&partner=USERLAND

There you have it. Mr. High-Achiever went to Yale, and "did poorly". That was in 1959. It appears he stayed at Yale for 3 years. Then he abruptly goes home. Read: FUCKING FLUNKED OUT. No, I didn't get that from the article. Yes, I am reading between the lines. But I think that's right. 9 months later--spring semester of 1963, he enrolls at glorious Casper Community College. Read: probably at his despairing parents' request, he gets back in the only type of school who will have him with his abysmal average, in order to try to rehabilitate his GPA so he can later at least go to SOME university. Yes, I am reading between the lines. But I think that's right. He enters his state university in 1963. By now this cocksucker is getting a little old for undergrad--he's in his early 20's. But, hey, what safer place is there than college, for a "draft-deferrer"? "Stay in college, son, or you'll be on your way to Nam!" No, that's not a quote. But I can picture his old man telling him that. By now, Our Family Values Hero is already two deferments down the road. He gets his third student deferment after getting married.

He starts grad school. (Congrats, Dick, you sure brought those grades up!) And because you studied hard, you get... another deferment.

But wait! Deferments are getting harder to get! Suddenly just being a Good Old Family Values Married Man Who Has To Keep The Little Woman From Starving, isn't enough!

Boing! She's knocked up! Whew! This is a much more fun way of staying outa Nam.

"His family". Pleeeeze. They are the spawn of someone who IMO should've been fucking prevented from breeding. Well... they cull overly-aggressive, dangerous animals, don't they??

Fast forward to 2002-2006. Cheney presides over the FUCKING SLAUGHTER of approximately 3000 OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN--every one, an American who has a FAMILY. And then there's the serious lifetime maiming of another 10,000 of OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN. And last but definitely not least, there's another tens of thousands of OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO ARE RAISING THEIR FAMILIES.

Fuck Cheney. Fuck his so-called "family". Those "other priorities" he had were NOT "raising his family"--he had one "other priority", which was to keep his sorry, worthless, ass out of Vietnam.

And there are many others who also kept out of Vietnam through strategic student deferments and probably even strategic breeding. BUT VERY FEW, IF ANY, OF THOSE OTHERS THEN WENT ON TO KILL OTHER PEOPLE'S CHILDREN FOR NOTHING.

[Tunkamerica]

18. Was this in vitro fertilization?

How many little christian fetuses were killed in the production of this baby?

[Hieronymus]

21. Good point...

[moc]

61. No, more likely it was IUI

Intrauterine insemination.

No reason for IVF unless she had an egg production problem.

[Hieronymus]

20. I can't wait to see Lynne asked about this ...

:eyes: She was flummoxed when asked if her daughter was gay, and now this.

[MADem]

23. Well...she can always blame that TERRIBLE JOHN KERRY!!!!

After all, he committed the UNPARDONABLE sin of stating the obvious during the debates!!! :rofl:

Hell, she'll probably blame him for getting her unwed (just because you call it a marriage, Miss Cheney, it AIN'T one when your paw's administration forces you to move to Massachusetts to make that a reality) daughter up the pole, prostate issues notwithstanding!!!

[Lexingtonian]

26. unmarried and pregnant, huh?

Poor little bastard...and grandson to Pure Evil, to boot.

[Deja Q]

64. *DING* *DING* *DING* -- We have a winner.

:popcorn:

[customerserviceguy]

31. All I can say is

congratulations to the happy couple, and maybe Dick Cheney seeing his sixth grandchild will change a part of his dark heart. It will be fun to see Freeper reaction when the birth announcement is made. I'd like to think that most of them would finally extracate their heads from their assholes when it happens, but then, I'm an eternal optimist...

[jamesinca]

38. Why her?

Why not Heather Poe? We do not need any more Chenney DNA on the planet!

[ashling]

40. It's a baby boom for grandparents Dick and Lynne

How sweet :puke:

[SeattleGirl]

41. Then let us wish the best life for Mary's baby.

This child did not choose this situation. My hope is that Mary and her partner will put the love for this child over any personal feelings they have about Mr. and Mrs. Darth Cheney.

[LeftishBrit]

87. I fully agree!

[chelsea0011]

45. I hope it's a "snowflake" baby. I want to see Bush use that one in a

photo op.

[caledesi]

46. The happy couple. Pic

Cheney, 37, was a key aide to her father during the 2004 reelection campaign and now is vice president for consumer advocacy at AOL. Poe, 45, a former park ranger, is renovating their Great Falls home.

What about health insurance for both of them? Oh that's right....they are rich! They don't have to worry about such "trivial" things as most same-sex couples. :sarcasm:

[JudyM]

93. That's right, but they might have to move out of Virginia if they want their wills recognized

and the adoption by the non-birth mother, etc etc.

[Arkansas Granny]

51. This only proves that fact is stranger than fiction. If someone

had written a book predicting this happening, it would have been placed on the Science Fiction and Fantasy shelf.

[matcom]

52. hy·poc·ri·sy (hi-pok'ri-se)

n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies
1.The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2.An act or instance of such falseness.

[Ganja Ninja]

56. Could Bush be the sperm donor?

Inquiring minds want to know but I just want to spread a rumor.

[Vinca]

57. It's NOT Clinton's fault!!!!!

Please, please, please let David Gregory quiz Tony Snowjob about this.

[madinmaryland]

58. Somehow, it is Clinton's fault.

The Clenis strikes again!!!

[Deja Q]

62. Pregnancy has something to do with gay marriage?

That aside, Eddie Murphy broke up with what's her name.

In other words, I don't care what Marycheney does. She's just another sicko celebrity.

Her parents are a little bizarre too - or at least have some weird double standards about homosexuality. :shrug:

[entanglement]

65. Who is the biological father?

Any ideas?

:evilgrin:

[Tatiana]

66. I wonder if they want to have a relationship "like a marriage" or the real thing. n/t

[Canuckistanian]

68. I wonder if Rush will be making "turkey baster" jokes today

That Rush, he's such a sophiticated wit. Or was that retarded twit?

[noonwitch]

69. Good for her, I hope that everything goes well for she and her baby

Whatever I think of the baby's grandparents in a political sense, I'm sure that they will love their new grandchild.

[marshall]

91. It is strange

I find it remarkable and almost inexplicable that the Cheneys seem so supportive of their daughter. Then are they going to realize that they are supposed to throw her out of the family?

[deadparrot]

70. I hope all gay couples have the right to raise children someday.

Despite the work of Mary's father and his allies.

[Junkdrawer]

73. Jerry Falwell on lesbian artificial insemination...May 2005...

The situational ethics of modern society has brought about a new legal problem. Here's the scenario:

A young woman from Virginia, Lisa Miller, participates in a civil union with her partner, also a Virginia resident, in a Vermont ceremony in 2000. Later, Lisa undergoes artificial insemination and gives birth to a daughter she names Isabella. The two women then move to Vermont. But Lisa is uneasy with her lifestyle and undergoes a spiritual rebirth. In her new life as a Christian, she breaks off the relationship and seeks to find a foundation for her faith back with her family in Virginia.

But Lisa's story does not end there.

Back in Vermont, the former partner decides she wants custody of the baby. She files a complaint to establish "parent-child contact." Lisa files an action in Virginia to determine parentage. Frederick (Va.) County Judge John R. Prosser issues an order determining Lisa to be the "sole parent," saying state law rules out recognition of same-sex unions.

However, last September a Vermont family court judge says his court has jurisdiction over the custody dispute and finds Lisa in contempt of court for disallowing the former partner to visit the child (now 2-years old).

...

Whatever the outcome – and I certainly pray that Lisa Miller wins sole custody of her baby – it is evident that our nation has arrived at a new slippery slope brought about by those who see moral law as a playground where they create their own rules and regulations that are based on nothing but irresponsible quirks and fads.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44159

[DinahMoeHum]

74. Wow! A modern-day "Immaculate Conception" perhaps?

:sarcasm:

Will wonders never cease??

:sarcasm:

[ianwood]

75. Report: Vice president's lesbian daughter pregnant

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Mary Cheney, the openly gay daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney and wife Lynne, is pregnant, according to a published report.

Mary Cheney, 37, and her partner of 15 years, Heather Poe, 45, are "ecstatic" about the baby, due in late spring, The Washington Post reported in Wednesday's editions, quoting an unnamed source close to the couple.

The vice president's other, older daughter, Elizabeth Cheney, is on leave as deputy assistant secretary of state after having her fifth child with her husband in July.

There was no formal announcement of either daughter's pregnancy from the vice president's office, but the Post quoted spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride as saying Tuesday night that "the vice president and Mrs. Cheney are looking forward with eager anticipation to the arrival of their sixth grandchild."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/06/cheney.daughters.ap/index.html

[Squatch]

76. Immaculate conception

[KitSileya]

80. And that is the most hypocritical....

Now she's openly gay, but let John Kerry mention that she's gay, and they all get the vapors!

I feel so sorry for the child, it should be rescued from having to live in the vicinity of pure evil!

[Christa]

77. Ironically her name is Mary

It may be a little Jesus :evilgrin:

[PhuLoi]

82. ANTI-CHRIST! ANTI-CHRIST!

Mother 'virgin' named Mary. Parents of Mary the personification of Evil. Will the foal be named Damien?

[No Exit]

116. OH. MY. GOD. Could SHRUB be the father??

I mean, in some circles, they DO worship Shrub... Could he have done one of those remote impregnations on Mary??

[Tight_rope]

78. Congratulations to the parents to be...That poor child!

[w4rma]

81. Good. (nt)

[superconnected]

88. How can they be healthy parents

when they loathe humanity so much, which stems from self-loathing?

There are a lot better gays out there than those two. Too bad the peaceful and loving gay familys can't just adopt kids.

[superconnected]

89. Actually since repukes are the worlds biggest hypocrites

I expect them to embrace them.

The problem is the poor kids is going to grow up in a family that hates humanity.

[earth mom]

99. The last thing this country or planet needs is more Cheneys!

Pardon me while I :puke:

[Doctor_J]

108. Oh, the outrage that Falwell won't have

All morality stops at the GOP door with those TV "moralists"

[against all enemies]

110. Make me puke.

[greiner3]

112. Since it wouldn't REALLY be incest;

Listen a minute now; Dick loves his daughter and knows she wants a baby. No way will she take anything but a buzzing one, let alone a real thing so donor city there she goes. Dick has such a thing about family and all and as i mentioned before, it really isn't incest, is it? Two minutes alone with last year's Haliburton yearly report and he'd donate ALL the juice they needed. HIS money would be that less diluted, he'd have something on the couple. He'd be another daddy and a grandfather. I can see it now. He would live on into the middle of this century we are in. Artificial insemination? Why am I selling him so short? The first human clone. Dick Cheney will be reborn (I hate that phrase) and this time he will be stinking rich and have all the connections his first self did not have. By the age of 30 he could be king of the world. I hear they did/are making the remake of Omen. Without Peck!

[DuaneBidoux]

115. You realize that major therapy sessions are involved when she resolves this cognitive dissonance?

n/t

[ryanmuegge]

121. Yay...who gives a fuck about this tabloid story?

[Massachusetts]

125. Big Dick becomes GrandDick

[AtomicKitten]

126. Mazel tov, ladies.

[mitchum]

127. So Cheney's Professional Lesbian daughter bought some sperm?

Until her recent "job" at AOL, has Mary Cheney ever had a "job" that didn't involve pimping her sexual orientation?