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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 05:43 PM
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Consumer borrowing plunged in October
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 05:45 PM by IDemo
Decline was biggest in 14 years as auto loans fell sharply

AP - Updated: 2 hours, 10 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Consumer borrowing fell in October by the largest amount in 14 years, reflecting a big drop in auto loans.

The Federal Reserve reported Thursday that borrowing declined at an annual rate of 0.6 percent in October following a revised 2 percent increase in September. It was the biggest drop since a 1 percent plunge in October 1992.

The weakness last month came from a huge falloff in demand for auto loans and other types of non-revolving credit, which declined at a rate of 3.3 percent in October, following a small 0.4 percent gain in September.

The drop in the category that includes auto loans was the largest one-month decline in this area since a 3.6 percent fall in May 1993.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16096002/



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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 05:51 PM
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1. The Economy is going into a recession
and hopefully not a depression
Bush could be the Hoover of our time
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:03 PM
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2. Speaking Of Herbert Hoover....
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 06:04 PM by OrangeCountyDemocrat
Doesn't Georgie's father have the same middle name as the first name of the "architect" of the Great Depression?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:05 PM
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3. So I guess that means that consumers can only buy what they
can afford . . .
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:26 PM
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4. This is very good news.
Edited on Thu Dec-07-06 06:35 PM by superconnected
Buying on credit is not a good thing. People are either scaling back what they buy, or are refusing those credit card predators.

I actually saw a card that was 45% percent interest per year. It was sent to my 23 yo niece. That was 2 years ago. Wonder what they're up to now.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:28 PM
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5. Disgusting
What those CC companies can get away with on the unwary and the young that are trying to get established. There should be stricter laws on the limits in other words irresponsible card holders should not have cards period not increased rates dragging everyone into the mess of bad creditors... IMHO anyway.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 06:59 PM
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6. while it's predicted that there will be a recession 07 and 08 --
my hope is that this will be a trend of more responsible spending.

the only thing that bothers me -- is that can't save in a bank or money market anymore -- everything is designed to send you to the stock market.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 08:26 PM
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7. no, not really..
the stock mrkt is too risky unless you're buying energy stocks.

it's the tried and true real estate..it hasn't hit rock bottom yet.
give it another year and position yourself to buy
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 08:37 PM
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8. i do think ''investment'' real estate
is good for average folks -- as a reasonable way to make money.

it involves a lot of work and discipline.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 07:57 AM
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9. You need this site.
www.thehousingbubbleblog.com

It may just change your thinking and possibly save your shirt.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 08:00 AM
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10. i know the site.
and i agree pretty much with the whole housing bubble scenario.

but there are some fiscally responsible people of very average means who can take advantage of real estate and make it work well for themselves.
that's all i'm saying.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 08:37 AM
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11. True.
Yes, you're right.

When and where it will be safe for those people to buy into a falling market is another question, and best not left to chance. That's all I'm saying.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 10:22 AM
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12. and that too is correct.
we agree.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:42 PM
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13. responsible spending
at our house is buying canned and boxed goods that don't need refridgeration.

What about those of us who are already poor and dependent on government disability checks? I wonder what will happen.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:30 PM
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15. i'm poor as a church mouse with a mortgage.
so i'm as nervous as anyone.
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melm00se Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:48 PM
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14. unhealthy behavior
has to be paid for with a a bit of pain....I hope that pain will shock people back to the idea that cash is good, credit is bad (in broad strokes, I know there are some excpetions)....
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