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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:07 PM
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Feds Arrest Would-be Terrorist Allegedly Planning to Attack Chicago-area Mall During Christmas Rush
Edited on Fri Dec-08-06 12:28 PM by sabra

http://abcnews.go.com/

Breaking News FEDS ARREST WOULD-BE TERRORIST ALLEGEDLY PLANNING TO ATTACK CHICAGO-AREA MALL DURING CHRISTMAS RUSH



more:


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2710776&page=1

'Lone Wolf' Charged with Plotting Attack During Christmas Rush
Feds Arrest Would-Be Terrorist Allegedly Planning Attack in Chicago Suburbs

Dec. 8, 2006 — ABC News has learned a Chicago-area man has been charged with plotting a terrorist attack.

Sources say the man is accused of planning to use firearms and explosives to attack a specific mall in Rockford, Ill. The alleged plan was to target this mall during the holiday shopping season.

The suspect is being described as a "lone wolf" style terrorist and is not believed to have ties to any organized terrorist group.

Charges are expected to be formally announced in Chicago later today.

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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:08 PM
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1. Here WE go again. Scarey Scarey!
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:09 PM
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2. a beer says that it's a freeper or a dominionist... n/t
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:27 PM
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12. in which case
we'll hear no more about it.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:12 PM
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24. Looks like you owe someone a beer. -nt-
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:09 PM
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3. Freepers up to no good yet again. n/t
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:12 PM
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4. Just as Bush's approval rating hits an all-time low. How convenient and predictable.
Edited on Fri Dec-08-06 12:14 PM by IanDB1
Keith Olbermann: The Nexus of Politics and Terror
Topic started by IanDB1 on Oct-30-06 04:49 PM (1 replies)
Last modified by Catchawave on Oct-30-06 11:47 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=46

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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:13 PM
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5. Oh noooo! Maybe we should cancel seating that new D Congress in January!
We know that Rs are better on terra than Ds. Do we really want to turn the nation's safety over to a bunch of terra appeasers
at a time that the evil ones are ramping up their attacks?

:sarcasm:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:13 PM
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6. Yeah, right.
Whatever.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:20 PM
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7. 'Lone Wolf' Charged with Plotting Attack During Christmas Rush
'Lone Wolf' Charged with Plotting Attack During Christmas Rush
Feds Arrest Would-Be Terrorist Allegedly Planning Attack in Chicago Suburbs

Dec. 8, 2006 — ABC News has learned a Chicago-area man has been charged with plotting a terrorist attack.

Sources say the man is accused of planning to use firearms and explosives to attack a specific mall in Rockford, Ill. The alleged plan was to target this mall during the holiday shopping season.

The suspect is being described as a "lone wolf" style terrorist and is not believed to have ties to any organized terrorist group.

Charges are expected to be formally announced in Chicago later today.

More:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2710776&page=1

What do you think his FreeRepublic screen name is?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:35 PM
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21. Now, he's no freeper.
Freepers ban muslims, and this guy is being called a terrorist, ergo, he is a muslim.

Right?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:21 PM
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8. Why do they hate Christmas? n/t
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:24 PM
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9. Sarcasm and scepticism are okay, up to a point. But there will
come a time where there will be a nasty incident. Or one will narrowly be avoided due to diligent work by those who are hired to protect us.

There are a lot of crazies out there. Lots of them. They seem to be multiplying. And Christmas is NOT bringing out the best in people, which is ironic.

We'll see.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:05 PM
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49. And the people who often we can depend on to truly SERVE and PROTECT
are IMO, Our Local Police Forces, not the ham handed (with many bribed informants) FBI.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 04:32 PM
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54. It's just that back in the day we didn't call people who did stuff like this "terrorists."
We called them "postal employees".
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:24 PM
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10. Rockford is not considered 'Chicago Area' by anyone around here.
Really. Not only is the story pure bullshit, the headline isn't even close to being accurate.

Rockford is not, and never has been, part of Chicagoland.
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jbonkowski Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:33 PM
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14. Seriously
I live an hour Northwest of Chicago proper, and Rockford is about another hour west of there.

Not even close to Chicago area.

jim
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:00 PM
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46. They're playing to the people who have no grasp at all! Saying "Chicago"
lends itself to the fantasy of mega-calamities, after all. So many more people in one place. Seems really scarey to those who don't know it's TWO HOURS away.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:46 PM
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18. Not to derail the thread, but ....




isn't that the mall where one of the chase scenes from the "Blues Brothers" was filmed?


Just wondering.







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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Nope. That was Dixie Square Mall in Harvey.
Near 155th and Dixie Hwy (Western Avenue).
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:25 PM
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11. i'm guessing the absence of any reference to his religious ideology..
can only mean that he's white and christian.
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jbonkowski Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. I'll bet he gets due process
But just because he's white and not a Muslim. Double standards now apply to our justice system, sadly.

jim
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Yup, If He Was Muslim They Would Highlight It
Since he's white, we won't see any pictures.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:29 PM
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13. Note----terrorist was played up....
Then in the article it was "lone wolf". Which means it could have absolutely nothing to do with the terrorists and a disgruntled individual that wants to kill and get attention.....the media is still on bush's side.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
50. Or, in his pay. Sometimes I have this suspicion that
there's a pricelist somewhere -- so much for a mention, so much for a paragraph, so much for a story.

:tinfoilhat:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 12:46 PM
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17. Maybe, it's one of O'Lielly's soldiers in the 'war on Christmas', planning to blow up
Santa and his reindeer.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:00 PM
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19. TERRA TERRA TERRA
This has all the signs of an AL-KrisKringle plot.......................
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praeclarus Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:40 PM
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22. since when does going postal = terrorist?...
... Is that new?

Dude is "lone wolf" and not tied to any organized group.
So just your average nutcase who decides to go shoot up
(school, place of employ, MacDonalds).
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 01:50 PM
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23. if he had a political agenda he was trying to further, it might count
doesn't matter tho.

If announcing the crime as terrorism could potentially boost the president's influence, he's a terrorist.
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:13 PM
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25. Looks like he's a Muslim.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:33 PM
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26. Lol, more devout words never spoken...
"I swear by Allah man, I'm down for it too, I'm down for the cause, I'm down to live for the cause and die for the cause, man."

courtesy of the smokinggun link above.

Lol, this dude is a crackpot.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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27. Shopping Mall Terror Plot Foiled
Edited on Fri Dec-08-06 02:27 PM by seriousstan
Shopping Mall Terror Plot Foiled
FBI: Man planned "to disrupt Christmas" with "acts of jihad"
DECEMBER 8--An Illinois man plotted to set off hand grenades at a Chicago-area shopping mall in a holiday season terror campaign that was thwarted by federal investigators. According to an FBI affidavit, Derrick Shareef, 22, told a confidential source that he wanted to "commit violent acts of jihad," and spoke of killing judges and blowing up public buildings. A copy of the affidavit can be found below. Shareef told the snitch that he sought "to disrupt Christmas," adding that, "I swear by Allah man, I'm down for it too, I'm down for the cause, I'm down to live for the cause and die for the cause, man." The document does not further describe the supposed cause of Shareef, who was named today in a federal felony complaint. Shareef is quoted telling the FBI source, "I probably would have eventually ended up stabbing the shit outta some Jews or something. Just stabbing them niggers with a steak knife...Because during that war with Hezbollah, man, I had already started to look at synagogues out here..." In advance of a planned attack on a Rockford mall, Shareef prepared a martyr's videotape in which he let the "enemies of Islam" know that "the time for jihad is now." He added, "This is a warning to those who disbelieve, that we are here for you, and I am ready to give my life...May Allah protect me on this mission we conduct.
11 pages here....
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1208061shareef1.html

Drudge Breaking.....with hotlinks


CHRISTMAS MALL TERROR ATTACK THWARTED: A 22-year-old Chicago man, Talib Abu Salam Ibn Shareef, has been charged with plotting a terrorist attack on a Rockford, Ill. mall during the holiday season. The suspect is accused of planning to set off 4 hand grenades at the CherryVale shopping mall. The suspect is described as an unaffiliated 'lone wolf-style terrorist' who wanted to commit 'violent jihad'. ... A press conference is forthcoming... Developing...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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28. Targeting all those people following the Prez's orders to fight terrorism by going shopping. nt
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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31. It is Bush's fault I people are shopping for Christmas????
:tinfoilhat:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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42. He told the US people to "go shopping" as a means to participate in the war effort. nt
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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29. I would say this is a legitimate alert (election is over and nothing coming up until 2008)
Although I'm not as worried about lone wolves as I am organized terrorist cells, as lone wolves don't have the insight or money to plan attacks as well as organized groups.
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Katzenjammer Donating Member (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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41. I don't think so. This sounds like the prelude to another police-state increment.
This guy isn't a terrorist. At most he's a violent criminal, but probably really someone who's a little loosely wrapped. Terrorists have political goals.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:22 PM
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53. The INFORMANT asked the TARGET if he *needed grenades.*
Could this investigation be any more pathetic? Read the transcript at The Smoking Gun Site and discover that the FBI INFORMANT planted all weaponry ideas save for the knife into their TARGET's mind.

Yes, please read the formal report to get a full realization how shoddy the FBI conducted this so called "Terrorist" investigation.

When they discovered that this "crazy man" did not have any connections, they should have placed him in custody for a Mental Health Evaluation vice waste all those resources nabbing a man who is potentially violent to others. :(
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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30. is it derek or..
Talib Abu Salam Ibn Shareef? the latter sounds scarier is suppose. did he actually have 4 hand grenades? is this a total handjob?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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32. I vote for the latter ...
In other words, we are being figuratively given a "total handjob." The FBI made it clear that they were "wise to" this guy from the first onset of his initial plans. Oh, how much would you like to bet that there's an informant who *fed him* all the steps so that our hapless FEDs can look competent during the Holidays? :eyes:

I have not read the specifics on this guy but it wouldn't surprise me, like the Miami dudes, he sold fake, knock off perfume at the malls and lived at home with his mother. :thumbsdown:
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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33. Did he have a knife or did you miss the part about stabbing people?
Edited on Fri Dec-08-06 02:39 PM by seriousstan
page 6 of the affidavit?

He procured 4 hand grenades and a 9mm handgun. He didn't know the hand grenades and ammo were non-functional. This maniac was going to carry through with his plan.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:08 PM
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51. Yes, and I'd bet big money that the FBI bribed Informant "hooked him up"
but still, a knife is dangerous. And it was good BASIC police work to get this hate-filled and potentially violent man off of the streets. :applause:
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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34. I find something curious in this
his use of the phrase "them n_____" That's the kind of phrase you would imagine someone from the south using, not someone from a foreign country.

Oh well, "I hate Illinois Nazis" has been said before.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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35. Where did you see it stated he was a foreigner?
He might just as easily be a jail house convert to Islam, originally from Illinois.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
55. Despite the fact that the Right pretty much ignores them
White Supremicists who advocate violence deserve the term "terrorist" just as much as an al-Qaeda member.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:17 PM
Response to Reply #34
60. you're sorely mistaken
if you think that only white southerns use the N word like that. Or only white people in general.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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36. OMFG, the formal write up is a hoot!
Edited on Fri Dec-08-06 02:47 PM by ShortnFiery
Oh, you must go to the smoking gun and read this bunk, if for no other reason, peruse for B-rated entertainment value. :puke:

It's contrived and baits us (the 'Merican people) by using the horrid N-word as well as reflect that "the informant" was teamed with him the entire time.

Can we say entrapment? Our FBI must be at wit's end to use such tainted tactics (Informant as coach) so they can pass this CRAP-off (one crazy wannabe domestic terrorist) as a valid investigation much less one of quality. Pathetic. :( I've experienced better narratives listening to the Old Time Radio Series (1940s), "I was a Communist for the FBI." :rofl:

p.s. Hey there - agents Mary and Mike. This must be one useless and boring-assed way to earn a buck. ;)
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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38. How was this entrapment?
Seems like a valid and likely threat was investigated over a long period of time and removed before he could carry out his plan. Nothing curious or strange about it.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #38
48. It is clearly entrapment when you BRIBE a local (untrained) man
to function as an informant. These are not ever CLEAN investigations as, because he's getting paid big-bucks, the informant will feed the TARGET resources (by the FBI) and FEED lines to him. This is so clearly staged that yes, it's laughable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that this ANGRY and potentially violent man is off of the streets. However, had he not had as a #1 buddy, the FBI informant, the target may not have been able to score hand grenades on his own. But he could do some damage with a knife so this is GOOD POLICE WORK. Gee, maybe we should start paying our FBI regular beat cop's pay? I see nothing special about this investigation that a third year city "task force" Police Officers could not accomplish. :shrug:
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Zewe Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:14 PM
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52. yes
seems like to me
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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43. wow
does it matter??
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Zewe Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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39. wow
was he gay??
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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44. wow
does it matter??
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:54 PM
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40. I wish they would just call them anarchist like they used to.
We will now have to re-do the 'terrorist' thing all over.
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Zewe Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 02:59 PM
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45. Baker/Hamilton
This sounds fishy to me,no doubt this was a set up to get the peoples minds of the Baker /Hamilton Comm.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 03:00 PM
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47. uhh humm!....n/t
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 04:39 PM
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56. BS
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 04:51 PM
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57. How so? -nt-
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. a 22 yr old w/ stereo speakers is not a threat..
the whole story is BS and should have never made it to a national level..

on bright side.. maybe it will cause a few braindead consumers to stay home and save their $$$ instead of blowing it on useless material items

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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-08-06 05:13 PM
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59. That's what I figured...
Nothing is real except the warm glow of the monitor.
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