US bugged Diana's phone on night of death crash

[RamboLiberal]

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1968664,00.html

The American secret service was bugging Princess Diana's telephone conversations without the approval of the British security services on the night she died, according to the most comprehensive report on her death, to be published this week.

Among extraordinary details due to emerge in the report by former Metropolitan police commissioner Lord Stevens is the revelation that the US security service was bugging her calls in the hours before she was killed in a car crash in Paris.

In a move that raises fresh questions over transatlantic agreements on intelligence-sharing, the surveillance arm of the US has admitted listening to her conversations as she stayed at the Ritz hotel, but failed to notify MI6. Stevens is understood to have been assured that the 39 classified documents detailing Diana's final conversations did not reveal anything sinister or contain material that might help explain her death.

Scotland Yard's inquiry, published this Thursday, also throws up further intelligence links with the Princess of Wales on the night she died. The driver of the Mercedes, Henri Paul, was in the pay of the French equivalent of M15. Stevens traced £100,000 he had amassed in 14 French bank accounts though no payments have been linked to Diana's death.

Stevens's conclusion is that Diana, her companion Dodi Fayed, and Paul himself died in an accident caused by Paul driving too fast through the Pont de l'Alma underpass in Paris while under the influence of drink. The car was being pursued by photographers at the time.

[babylonsister]

1. What earthly reason would the US need or want to bug her calls?

Makes no sense to me.

[arikara]

3. Perhaps something to do with her landmines activism

She wasn't much beloved by the military industrial complex...

and who's the boss of the "deciders"?

[Cha]

58. Good Point. Otherwise that was

my question, too..why in all that's sane was Diana Princess of Wales' phone being tapped by the US? Terrorism?

[IndianaGreen]

61. It was under Clinton's watch

Why? Please explain Big Dog why Diana's concern over landmines was such an overriding factor that you authorized spying on her. Or did you have some prurient interest?

[Barrett808]

4. Wasn't Adnan Khashoggi Dodi's uncle or something?

That alone makes me reach for the tinfoil hat.

:tinfoilhat:

[wickerwoman]

7. She was dating an Egyptian

whose mother was the sister of a famous arms dealer.

I'm not sure how many degrees of Kevin Bacon the CIA likes to play, but maybe they were more interested in him than her.

[sweetheart]

15. and she was carrying the baby

that would have made the royal family 'tainted' racially.

That cull was long predictable.

[greccogirl]

13. Clinton had the hots for her?

[Henny Penny]

22. Knowledge is power....!

They like to build up large databases of information that can be used to "exert leverage" on recalcitrant politicians, business leaders etc.

[Name removed]

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[skipos]

34. I disagree, I don't think Clinton, Gore, Kerry and Edwards are Republicans in disguise

But hey, that's just me. :shrug:

[conservdem]

26. I agree and

would like to get a truthful explanation for it.

[FormerDittoHead]

2. You said it. WTF?

So, I imagine there are things about Diana we haven't been told about....?

on edit: SORRY - this was meant to follow up to reply #1...

[Poll_Blind]

5. Not the CIA, not the FBI, but the Secret Service? Under Clinton?

  Well, I gotta believe Scotland Yard but it's very, very strange. From WikiPedia, on the role of the Secret Service:

The Secret Service has primary jurisdiction over the prevention of counterfeiting of U.S. currency and U.S. treasury bonds and notes, as well as protection of the President, Vice President, their immediate families, other high ranking government officials, past presidents and their spouses, certain candidates for the offices of President and Vice President, and visiting foreign heads of state and government (all called "protectees"). It also investigates a wide variety of financial fraud crimes and identity theft and provides forensics assistance for some local crimes. The Secret Service Uniformed Division assists in the protection of foreign embassies within Washington, D.C.

  Sounds like a good FIOA request, really.

PB

[1932]

28. I suspect the author of the piece doesn't know the difference

which is why it's lower cases s "secret service."

[noonwitch]

49. Maybe Clinton was having her watched for her own sake?

Maybe he and Hillary or one or the other were friends enough to think that perhaps some one was after her (whether anyone was or not)?

Or maybe Bill had slept with her at some point, it wouldn't surprise me. Isn't it the patriotic duty of a President to cuckold the future king of England if the opportunity presents itself?

[Poll_Blind]

57. LOL! I...I...Hell Yeah! Stick it to the Monarchy for Paine! n/t

PB

[napi21]

6. Every time I read this kind of stuff, I want to leave the US!

Why the hell are we always sticking our nose in everybody elses business? I'm so sick ofit!

[Tellurian]

8. What does it matter..

It took almost an hour for help to arrive to get her to hospital.
Why nothing is said about that is bewildering..

[aquart]

9. There was a lot said about it.

They said the French prefer to stabilize at the scene of the accident rather than move the victim immediately.

[Tellurian]

14. That is the point...

She was never stabilized at the scene. Photogs were there taking her picture as she lay dying.

[AlwaysQuestion]

10. Report not at all surprising

Is anyone at all surprised that the investigation turned out as it did? It came out as I would expect 90 percent thought that it would. I'm still not buying that the chauffeur was drunker than a hoot owl (unless the few drinks that he may have had prior to getting into the car had been spiked). With the amount of alcohol that they say was in his system would have made him smell like a brewery. Besides, I'd still like to know the last time anyone ever heard of a chauffeur or chauffeur designate of a prominent person ever having been cited for drunk driving or for being in an accident while under the influence?

In any event, even if the chief investigator had found suspicious information and evidence pointing to....oh I don't know, the royal family or Great Britain's secret police that that information would not be permitted to come out. Not that it matters a whit, but I still think intuitively that there's something fishy about her death.

[JDPriestly]

11. It's fishier than ever.

Until I read this article, I thought there was nothing fishy at all. Now I think we actually know very little about what was going on. This looks like a typical CIA set-up.

[colorado_ufo]

18. Absolutely!

If this professional driver - who was on duty - was given to drinking inappropriately, doesn't anyone with common sense think he would have been fired long ago? He was entrusted with the son of a highly important man AND the Princess of Wales, mother of the future King of England. Let's get real here!

While it is certainly possible that it could have been an accident, the explanations that have been given are woefully inadequate and inconsistent. But looking back at history, if JFK's assassination still has many unanswered questions, and was subject to much mishandling, how much more the death of the princess and Fayed?

[Ilsa]

50. ITA with "spiked" or drugged up even worse.

This stinks beyond belief.

[flyarm]

12. al - FAYED BELIEVES PRINCE PHILIP WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CRASH

Diana died on my son's birthday..and I took it very hard..as i had gotten to meet her in Toronto several years prior..she was extraordinary!!..So sweet and sooo beautiful!!
SHE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A PIECE OF MY HEART!!
FLY


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/532499.stm
Monday, 22 November, 1999, 19:11 GMT
Al-Fayed challenges Duke to sue

snip:
Mr al-Fayed called on Prince Philip to sue him over his allegations that the Duke had "masterminded" a conspiracy to kill the Princess of Wales and his son Dodi.

Seeking to establish a pattern of persistent dishonesty, Mr Hamilton's lawyer, Desmond Browne QC, asked Mr al-Fayed about his controversial theory that the deaths of Diana and his son, Dodi, was caused by the British security services and his claims that Diana and Dodi planned to marry.



snip:

The Egyptian-born businessman stood by his earlier claim that Prince Philip was responsible for the fatal 1997 car crash.

snip:

Mr Browne suggested: "You believed at this time, did you not, that the crash had not been an accident, but the result of a conspiracy?"

He replied: "I have the right to believe everything. I have the right to find out how my son has been killed

[Raine]

16. Stinks...

the entire thing of something very fishy. x(

[CJCRANE]

17. What's the deal with the white Fiat Uno?

It seems suspicious that another car collided with the Mercedes before the crash.

[smirkymonkey]

30. Wasn't that the car that was found a few days later that had been

torched with the driver inside somewhere in the Bois de Boulogne?

It's kind of like 9/11 - if there was no foul play or conspiracy involved then why so many coverups? If it was just an accident then what is there to cover up?

[zanne]

19. No wonder we're paranoid.

Stock up on aluminum foil--we're gonna need it.

[Rose Siding]

20. Maybe it had more to do with surveillance of powerful Saudis than Diana

:shrug:

Still, it's disturbing

[customerserviceguy]

21. What's disturbing

is that as the tenth year anniversary of the event approaches, we will be even more inundated by Diana worship crap. It's simple, people, she lived life in the fast lane, and people who do that sometimes crash and burn. I'm completely sick of all the royals that Mort Kondrake has properly called "Eurotrash".

[tanyev]

25. I'll take "Eurotrash" William and Harry over the Bush bimbos any day.

[customerserviceguy]

45. Sorry

but that's like deciding that Moe was the 'smart' Stooge.

Spoiled rich kids, all of them. They deserve our contempt, which should properly be displayed by ignoring their idiocy.

[tanyev]

48. Let's see Barb and Jenna do this.

Prince Harry: I'll fight in Iraq war
Evening Standard (London), Feb 1, 2006 by ROBERT JOBSON

PRINCE Harry is to be sent to Iraq next year as a troop commander and is likely to patrol the hazardous border with Iran, defence sources have revealed.

The prince, who is third in line to the throne, has repeatedly told friends of his determination to serve in the front line if his fellow soldiers are sent to the war zone.

The news comes after the death of the 100th British soldier in Iraq but it will delight Harry, who has gone on record to say he hopes to become an armoured reconnaissance troop leader at the forefront of Army operations. In an interview to mark his 21st birthday in September, Harry insisted he would be willing to serve once his training days as Officer Cadet Wales are over.

"There's no way I'm going to put myself through Sandhurst and then sit on my a**e back home while my boys are out fighting for their country," he said.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4153/is_20060201/ai_n16036645

[customerserviceguy]

62. It will be interesting

to see if he wears a British uniform, or his Nazi shirt...

In any case, any heir to the throne would have dozens of his fellow soldiers protecting him for this photo op. They're the ones I worry about! As a matter of fact, I worry for anyone from the US or Britain who is currently (or about to be) in Iraq. Instead of lionizing Harry for his gung-ho attitude, I wish he would spend some time trying to get the UK out of Iraq.

[Matilda]

24. I've believed for a while that her land mines campaign

might have been the reason for her death, if there was a conspiracy,
rather than the fact that she was having an affair with a Muslim.

If she had lived and carried on her work, it would definitely have
given the campaign to ban land mines a very high profile. And that
would have made the military-industrial complex very nervous indeed.

Would they kill a member of Britiain's Royal Family to protect their
financial interests? I think we can all guess the answer to that.

[Algorem]

27. somebody mispelled her name as Princess "Die",so she ended up in

their "die" file,so they killed her.perfectly understandable mistake.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

29. That, and the "Dodi" / "Dodo" typo ...

[Algorem]

31. Oy,the "extinction" file. You don't want them finding your name in there

They chop down your whole family tree.

[Alameda]

32. yes, there is something fishy here

I miss her, she was a wonderful woman who made a difference in a lot of people's lives. She didn't have to spend time on the programs she devoted her time to. Also, she was a wild card, she did what she liked. Look at it this way, who does it benefit?

[progressoid]

33. Yea! Our tax dollars well spent!

[superconnected]

35. dupe.

dupe.

[superconnected]

36. I'm normally not a conspiricist, but gee, the news in this article is ripe for conspiracy.

Right down to the US gov tapping her phone, and her driver having 100k pounds in the bank, wtf, a limo driver? That's more than 1.25 times that in US dollars.

I find it hard to believe her limo driver would have 3 times the legal amt of alcohol and they admit samples were mixed up.

There could have very well been a conspiracy here. Too may powerful, fucked up poeple involved.


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"Scotland Yard's inquiry, published this Thursday, also throws up further intelligence links with the Princess of Wales on the night she died. The driver of the Mercedes, Henri Paul, was in the pay of the French equivalent of M15. Stevens traced £100,000 he had amassed in 14 French bank accounts though no payments have been linked to Diana's death.

Stevens's conclusion is that Diana, her companion Dodi Fayed, and Paul himself died in an accident caused by Paul driving too fast through the Pont de l'Alma underpass in Paris while under the influence of drink. The car was being pursued by photographers at the time.

Tests have confirmed that Paul was more than three times over the French drink-drive limit and was travelling at 'excessive' speed. The inquiry will quash a number of conspiracy theories that have circulated since 31 August 1997, among them that Diana was pregnant. It also found no evidence that the princess was planning to get engaged to Dodi, son of Mohamed Fayed.

The Harrods tycoon believes that Paul's blood samples were swapped to portray him as a drunk in an elaborate cover-up by the establishment to stop Diana marrying Dodi, a Muslim.

Stevens is expected to concede that while there was a mix-up it was an accident and that the original French post-mortem which found that Paul was three-times over the French drink-drive limit was correct.

He is also expected to discount the role of the white Fiat Uno which struck Diana's car shortly before the crash, even though British police officers have failed to track down the vehicle which left paintwork on the black Mercedes.

The inquiry will support the findings of the original French accident inquiry in criticising the paparazzi as a possible reason for encouraging Paul to speed. The 'bright light' theory - the claim that the driver was deliberately blinded by a beam immediately before the crash - is also dismissed by Stevens."

[kitty1]

37. Fayed's uncle was none other than Adnan Khashoggi, the .....

notorious Saudi Billionaire, who was a renowned military arms and drug dealer. Good friend of the Bush's going way back.
He was the prominent middle man between the Iran mullahs and Oliver North in the the Iran/contra scandal. Bush SR was VP around this time of course.
Kashoggi also owned Oryx, the investment company which owned Huffman airlines. Huffman was managed by a Wallace Hilliard, a close friend of Jeb Bush's. Huffman owned the now famous flight school in Venice Florida where Mohammad Atta and other terrorists attended flight school. One of his lear Jets was busted some years ago with 43 pounds of heroin on board. The CIA ran the Florida/South American drug operations down there. Khashoggi, the CIA and the Bushes were all pretty tight. Of course the Bin Laden family was part of this mix, and Kashoggi's father was the family Doctor the the Bin Ladens, including Osama.
Let's not forget about the Promis "back door' revolutionary computer system whose program was stolen by the CIA, and used by Osama to elude capture. Khashoggi was involved with that. Maybe Fayed had knowledge to do with that situation.
Richard Perle happened to have a close business assoication from Kashoggi, and Perle was advised on Iraq war profiteering by him.

[orleans]

43. omg. where did you read all this? it's a bit daunting. n/t

[NVMojo]

46. link please! we don't need anymore reasons for tin foil then we already have!

[DemBones DemBones]

59. Didn't Khashoggi once employ Teresa LaPore, later to become famous

as the "Democratic" elections supervisor responsible for the "butterfly" ballot that confused many Palm Beach County voters and resulted in many elderly Jewish people voting for Pat Buchanan, thinking they were voting for Al Gore? Ms. LaPore later "became" a Republican, of course.

[lovuian]

38. Was the Princess a terrorist???

It really is suspicious???

[goforit]

40. Was the US doing Blair/ Charles a favor?

[goforit]

39. Such an convenient coincidence...........bring it on.

Why would the US be spying on Diana before she died?

[lateo]

41. And we should trust the US not to monitor our phones...

why exactly?

[beth9999]

42. It doesn't surprise me...

... that the Repugs bugged her phone. It wouldn't surprise me if evidence turned up that they were responsible for her death. (I'm not saying that there is evidence, or that they were responsible... just that if it turns out so, I won't be surprised).

[Mike Daniels]

54. Clinton was in charge during this time

So just how are the Repubs responsible for this particular incident?

[NVMojo]

44. Obviously they were driving fast to get away from more than photographers

Bless them, their lives were truly not their own.

[Vinca]

47. Bush's poodle is going to have some 'splainin' to do. nt

[WritersBlock]

51. The *real* question is "Who stopped her from wearing her seatbelt that night?"

Because that was a survivable crash, demonstrated by the fact that the front-seat passenger *did* survive.

And Professor Lienhart adds there is one crucial fact people need to know: "What is certain is that she was not wearing a seatbelt and this made things worse.

"We would like to think that if she had been wearing a seatbelt, we'd been able to save her."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6162041.stm

Whether or not someone was out to kill her, somebody decided that night that she wouldn't wear a seatbelt.

Whoever made that decision ultimately prevented her from surviving the crash.

[Nihil]

52. She did ... she was an adult and used to making her own decisions.

Besides, she was probably giving Dodi a blow-job at the time ...

[WritersBlock]

55. Exactly my point.

The seat-belt thing, that is; not the blow-job. But who knows....

[SemperEadem]

53. So? Isn't she still dead?

What difference does this make? New information isn't going to make her rise from her grave dressed in haute couteur and diamonds. She's dead and she's going to remain dead. Now unless England and France resurrect their ancient emnity and go back to war against one another, this is a distraction especially for the US with regards to more important things we need to keep our eyes on---like oil companies raking in billions in profits and not paying a dime in taxes especially for their off shore US drilling.

Give us news we can use, not distractions.

[lovuian]

56. She was loved So she had to be assasinated

The Royals couldn't stand her and she knew to much

[UTUSN]

60. So THAT's it!!!!1111 They shoulda been bugging OSAMA!!!!111 n/t