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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 03:54 AM
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Turkmen President Niyazov dies at 66
Edited on Thu Dec-21-06 03:56 AM by arcos
Turkmen President Niyazov dies at 66

ASHGABAT, Turkmenistan - Saparmurat Niyazov, the authoritarian president of energy-rich Turkmenistan who created an elaborate personality cult during more than two decades at the helm of the former Soviet republic, died Thursday, officials said. He was 66.

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Niyazov, an important ally in the U.S. war on terror, came to power in 1985 when the Central Asian nation that borders
Afghanistan was still a Soviet republic.

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Creating an elaborate personality cult, he ordered the months and days of the week named after himself and his family, and had statues of himself erected throughout the nation. Children pledged allegiance to him every morning in schools and his writings were required reading.

An alleged attempt on his life in 2002 set off a harsh crackdown, leading to dozens of arrests that were criticized by international human rights groups and the U.S. government.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061221/ap_on_re_eu/obit_niyazov
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 04:23 AM
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1. Wow, our batshit crazy "ally" (Mister Plausible Deniability himself if the price is right, I wager)
It will be interesting to see who replaces the guy, though--he was a total fruit loop, but BushCo probably was secretly jealous of his 'election success' at the polls:

He was elected president of the new independent Turkmenistan in 1992 with a reported 99.5 percent of the vote. In 1994, an alleged 99.9 percent of voters supported a referendum allowing him to remain in office for a second five-year term without having to face new elections.

In 1999, he was effectively made president for life after parliament removed all term limits, but an August 2002 gathering of the country's People's Council — a hand-picked assembly of Niyazov loyalists — nonetheless went further and endorsed him as president for life.

Under Niyazov's rule, Turkmenistan adopted a strict policy of neutrality and spurned joining regional security or economic organizations...But Niyazov supported the U.S.-led anti-terror campaign in neighboring Afghanistan, allowing coalition airplanes to use Turkmen airspace and humanitarian agencies to pass through to deliver aid.

Niyazov also pursued strong nationalistic policies to encourage the use of the Turkmen language over Russian and banned access to Russian-language media, leading to an increased exodus of some of the country's most educated citizens and decimating its school system.

Secondary education has been reduced in Turkmenistan to a required nine years, causing human rights groups to complain of a deliberate attempt to dumb down the population and prevent dissent.

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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 06:09 AM
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2. Good, I hope they get a better government now, but I'm not holding my breath.
Here's a few more links: <http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-12-21T103536Z_01_L21731773_RTRUKOC_0_US-TURKMENISTAN.xml>

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6198983.stm>

I don't know how much folks here know about Turkmenistan, but this guy and his way of ruling are one of the reasons that nothing has been done to try to fix one of the world's worst (and still getting worse) ecological disasters. Turkmenistan diverts a LOT of water that usually would go to fill the Aral Sea, which has lost so much water over the last 40 years that it is now Dead and drying up. Maybe now, with a more normal and reasonable leader, something can finally be done to fix the problem.

If you're not sure what the Aral sea is,



here's a sort of map that you usually will find in a worlds atlas...

But this is what it actually looks like in 2006





Links to higher resolution pictures at the link below:

<http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?search=Aral+Sea>

Here are some links to info about the Aral Sea disaster:

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/773449.stm>

<http://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view_rec.php?id=5898>
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 06:24 AM
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3. Turkmenistan's 'iron ruler' dies
21 December 2006

Turkmenistan's authoritarian president Saparmurat Niyazov, who ruled the Central Asian country for 21 years, has died aged 66, state TV has reported.

Niyazov, who named cities and airports after himself in a bizarre personality cult, left no designated successor.

Turkmenistan, which has large gas reserves, now faces an uncertain future with rival groups and outside powers scrambling for influence, analysts say.

Niyazov died at 0110 local time (2010 GMT Wednesday) of a heart attack.

Last month, the president publicly acknowledged he had heart disease.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6198983.stm


One less schmuck in the world. Looks like things could get a bit crazy there though.


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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:13 AM
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4. Kicking because the world lost an evil batshit crazy dictator.
Good riddance. That man was a total shit head, and his early and untimely demise is the best thing he ever did for Turkmenistan.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:44 AM
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6. That man was a loon
Even as evil dictators go he was crazy. Almost Idi Amin crazy.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 09:42 AM
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5. Turkmenistan gets a Christmas present
Niyazov was like Kim Jong-Il, the U-Haul management team, L. Ron Hubbard, and George Bush, all wrapped up in one single lunatic dictator.

It was Niyazov, not 'Saddam', who pioneered the practice of drilling holes in the heads of his living, un-anesthetized political enemies.

A Very Merry to the Turkmenistanis!

--p!
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:03 AM
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7. Things will get ugly here soon
"Turkmenbashi" rooted out the slightest bit of dissent in his country -- there simply is no other political player in the whole country. Prepare for a freefall power grab sooner or later by either the army or Islamists.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:36 AM
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9. "Here?" Are you in the region? (nt)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:48 AM
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11. They're Islamic
But the good wishes are good, nonetheless.

LOL, I love your description, but what did U-haul do?

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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 12:31 AM
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20. U-Haul -- a cult-like company
At least it was in the middle 1980s. My parents worked for them for a while. U-Haul bought their company and kept them on for a few months to teach the U-Haul management team the tricks of the trade. They might as well have given ten thousand monkeys a typewriter and demanded a best-seller. Six months turned into a year turned into three years. The money was good. They were not hassled. But they brought home an endless series of often hilarious corporate bullshit stories.

They also brought some of the corporate literature home -- it was Scientological in its grandiosity, but unlike the fruit of Ron's imagination, there were no claimed benefits; you worked for the profit and the pleasure of The Company, and that was that. The attitude toward the employees was abusive, to say the least. If you think Wal-Mart is bad, U-Haul in the early 1980s made them look positively benign. For example, the management literature contained numerous snide remarks about how workers who were injured on the job were to be assumed to be "goldbricking".

I'm not sure that it's changed much in two decades. The last time I rented a truck from them, I got into a conversation with one of the workers, and asked her how badly she hated the place. She just smiled and said we "shouldn't go there".

I remember one memo, consisting entirely of the main corporate mantra printed on a big piece of paper, something like "PAMWLE = HWFTO" which was an acronym for something like "pissing and moaning will lead everyone to hell whacking off in a fucking handbasket" (I don't remember it exactly, but it was expletive-filled) -- and was pronounced "Pamally Whifto". There was a master list of about fifty of these acronyms, like "5MXP = ABCNWEIN" and "SPCDF/TMNRL" and the suggestively-lettered "2W + 2F + 2C = F4EO" (I interpreted it as "to wank and to fuck and to come is fun for everyone"). It didn't take long until "DS8LDLSD-25" ("Doc Sam Ate All The LSD-25") came into usage. These acronyms would appear in any given piece of official, in-house U-Haul literature, and woe betided a manager who couldn't at least come close to giving a translation without referring to the Big List.

"Doc Sam", of course, was the Fearless Leader; I think his doctorate was either self-awarded or a Dr. Laura type of doctorate. He encouraged a cult of personality to be developed over him. When he died, U-Haul passed to his two sons, who wrangled for control of the old man's empire. One of them showed up at the place where my mother was working one day, and she said he was wearing a $2500 jogging suit ... bragging about it.

Yes: A rich man's son bragging about spending $2500 on a jogging suit, to a bunch of minimum-wage workers who hate his guts, but need the work. I suppose the heirs-apparent to Father Suparmurat will act in similar style, much as the Royal Scion to George H. W. Bush has done. The difference being that while the worst Doc Sam could do was to fire you, Niyazov could order you imprisoned and tortured to death. (The Wrath of Dubya is usually satisfied by a little ole waterboardin' an' some of that-thar extry-ordinary renditiation.)

On the other hand, you can't argue with success -- at least as far as the money goes. Otherwise, you can, and probably should, argue with it. Wal-Mart, Amway, Tupperware, Mary Kay cosmetics, Herbalife vitamins, and A.L. Williams Insurance all made billions of dollars with cult-like operations. They also systematically defrauded, deluded, and outright robbed thousands and tens of thousands of their employees and customers; the Department of Justice has files of the perfidy enough to reach Mars, give the Face on Mars a stylish goatee, and stretch back to the Earth. U-Haul, in that context, was not quite so bad, focusing on the hides and bank accounts of its lower-level management. Niyazov had an entire country and its natural resource base to give him suck.

As the L. Ron Hubbard of rental vehicles would say, "Pamally Whifto!" And so endeth this extensive digression. :)

--p!
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:31 AM
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8. Here's the official (wordy, glowing) announcement:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:42 AM
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10. had been treated as a demigod by the state. He was a bit 'heafty"
A terse report from state television said Niyazov died early Thursday of heart failure and showed a black-framed portrait of the man who had ordered citizens to refer to him as "Turkmenbashi" — the Father of All Turkmen. An announcer in a dark suit read a list of the accomplishments of Niyazov, who in life had been treated as a demigod by the state.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:49 AM
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12. Those gold statues of him
And the huge portraits are really scary, though I can imagine certain freepers wishing we had that here.

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dad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 10:50 AM
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13. Escaped assassination attempt in November 2003.
I love that he erected a giant golden statue of himself that revolves so his forehead always faces the sun.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 11:21 AM
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14. That old personality cult is a powerful tool.
I don't care for it personally. But it does work for the left or for the right, particularly in mainly rural societies.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 02:19 PM
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15. We have three possibilities developing here
1 - Putin's Russia asserts a pro-Russian secular leader and cabinet to rule with an iron fist, and make Turkmenistan Russia's trash dump again (and oil source.) Sadly, this is the best scenario

2 - Islamists take over (they have been fighting for years, we just don't see the coverage. Chechen rebels often train there.) and establish Sharia. Everyone suffers.

3 - The US trys to do something really stupid and involve themselves there. That would make Iraq look like sunday school.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 02:49 PM
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16. Perhaps due to Turkmenistan's inferior potassium?
:shrug:
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 06:55 PM
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17. First Pinochet, now him. Good month! n/t
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 07:07 PM
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18. an important ally?
i thought we were all "we're going to free everyone under an oil-rich totalitarian dictator if it kill them".

but i guess we just do that part of the time.
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-21-06 07:23 PM
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19. Off topic here but is anyone having trouble accessing BBCnews.com?
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