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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 08:11 AM
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Judge Orders Saudi Princess Deported
December 22, 2006

BOSTON -- A Saudi Arabian princess accused of breaking U.S. immigration laws by locking up her domestics' passports and forcing them to work for low pay was ordered to be deported, prosecutors said Thursday.

Hana F. Al Jader of Winchester was sentenced to two years of probation, the first six months of which must be served in home confinement, after which she'll be deported to Saudi Arabia, prosecutors said.

An after hours call to Samantha Martin, a spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office, was not returned. It was unclear if the six months' home confinement Al Jader received included time she has already served while on bail in home confinement.

U.S. District Judge Reginald J. Lindsay also sentenced Al Jader, 40, to pay $206,000 in restitution to three of her former domestic servants, pay a $40,000 fine, and perform 100 hours of community service.

In September, Al Jader pleaded guilty to two counts of visa fraud for lying on immigration forms, and two counts of harboring an alien for keeping the two women at her house though she knew their visas had expired.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-saudi-princess,0,2144854.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

So why are we keeping her under house arrest instead of deporting are butt back to SA right now? Or better yet, maybe she should finish out her stay down at Chrome Detention Center with all the other people waiting to be deported who don't have money.



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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 08:17 AM
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1. This is all too common. She should be in jail for slavery.
Hope more of these cases get prosecuted.
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Veronica.Franco Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 09:58 AM
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8. Don't know that prosecution can change this ...
Ask most any AMERICAN woman who has been married to and divorced a guy from the ME ... they lock their wife's and children's passports in the safe for "safe keeping" ... they have dual citizenship and they maintain control through fear ... it's the cultural difference between western civilization and the ME ... to them it's just how things are done ...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 10:21 AM
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9. Prosecution and real jail time might make others pay attention.
Edited on Fri Dec-22-06 10:41 AM by leveymg
I know exactly what you're talking about . . .

If you and your kids are U.S. Citizens and have such a issue abroad, that's exactly the kind of problem that American Consular Officers love to solve. They will be more than happy to issue duplicate passports and make travel arrangements. Take the kids to lunch, and go out the back door while the driver (minder) snoozes in the car. A waiting cab will take you to the U.S. Embassy.

You and the kids will be on a flight back to the United States within 24 hours. You don't need to have a dime on you. The State Department will even direct you to a Judge who will issue a temporary restraining order against hubby once you're back on U.S. soil.

It's just how things are done . . .

It's more complicated if all the kids aren't U.S. Citizens, of course. It can be a nightmare for domestic servants of foreign diplomats posted here. I know, I've been involved with this type of case. Even for professional employees who have been cheated here by foreign embassies and diplomats, it's extremely difficult to get a civil judgment against foreign entities. You have to sue under the Foreign Torts Claims Act, and that takes years. The worst that ever happens in all but the most heinous criminal cases is that the diplomat gets expelled persona non gratis.

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Veronica.Franco Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 06:56 PM
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12. once upon a time ...
A dear friend was married to a ME "gentleman" ... one day she got into her vehicle, started the cassette player, and a complete recording began of all of her telephone conversations ... AND this was in CA ... the bastard was beyond controlling and paranoid ... eventually the kids grew up and nobody wants to kidnap teenagers ... LOL!! ... she's well rid of him and learned the hard way about cultural differences ... life is hard enough without marrying someone from such an extremely different background ... when they visited the inlaws in Greece, on Crete, they ALL shunned her because of the "mixed marriage" ... more then a decade of pure hell ... ain't love strange ...
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 06:09 PM
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11. Agreed
It is slavery!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 08:20 AM
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2. Good riddance to bad rubbish
n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 08:34 AM
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3. More privileges for saudi THUGs
Her "royal" ass should be in the crowbar motel, whre she would be getting a little "Striped Sunshine"
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 09:12 AM
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4. These are Commander AWOL's bosom cronies
Edited on Fri Dec-22-06 09:13 AM by SpiralHawk
what a bunch of beauts. Never forget, 19 of the 21 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis. Not a one was from Iraq.

Who loves you, baby?

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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 09:16 AM
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5. 2001: Saudi princess faces charged for beating made
http://www.local6.com/news/1131062/detail.html


ORLANDO, Fla. -- After a night in jail, a Saudi princess charged with beating her servant and pushing her down a flight of stairs was scheduled to go before a Florida judge Tuesday afternoon.

Princess Buniah al-Saud, a niece of King Fahd of Saudi Arabia, was arrested late Monday and booked into the Orange County Jail without bond on charges of beating Memet Ismiyati, her Indonesian maid.

Neighbors called 911 Friday after Ismiyati, 36, ran crying from the apartment she shared with the princess. She told deputies al-Saud beat her, hit her head against a wall and pushed her down a flight of stairs, leaving her unable to walk.

In 1995, another Saudi princess was accused of beating her servants while visiting Orlando. Princess Maha Al-Sudairi, wife of the heir to the Saudi throne, reportedly beat a servant suspected of stealing $200,000 in cash and jewelry in front of deputies providing off-duty security for the princess. The deputies were later disciplined for not stopping the beating, not writing a report about the beating and not investigating a tip that another servant had been beaten.
___________________

If you goggle "Saudi princess beats her made" there's a ton of news about similar incidents here in the US.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 09:17 AM
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6. Considering she's a Saudi national, it's good she was prosecuted at all.nt
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 03:49 AM
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14. Along with other events of late it makes you wonder
about BushCo's current relationship with the Saudi royals
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 09:35 AM
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7. What, you think house arrest in Saudi Arabia's punishment?
Or that she'd even get house arrest after being deported?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 10:36 AM
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10. No, the house arrest is here....
But being deported to Saudi Arabia is probably real punishment for her. The life of a Saudi woman in Saudi Arabia--even a rich one--is a bit like house arrest.

I read the New Yorker account of Osama's relatives shipped out of the country just after 9/11. (The first time the story came to print.) One was a young woman who lived in downtown Manhattan & followed the arts. The fact that she preferred the free life in the USA meant she probably did not have any sympathy for her rather distant relative. The story's main objection to the airlift? The fact that US agents were not allowed to interview the relatives. It seemed that several were NOT happy at having to leave the USA, & they might well have been glad to share any knowledge they had. But nobody was able to ask them. (There's no indication that Osama's young half-niece in law--or whatever--was mean to any servants. But she seemed an example of a Saudi woman who was glad to be away from home.)

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 02:29 AM
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13. Goodbye Your Highness
Its amazing to see a Princess like Diana and a Princess like this one
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:10 AM
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15. Good riddance to bush buddies.
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earlybelle Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:13 AM
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16. Hey, these Saudis are our friends. They think and behave like us. We have a lot in common.
Our cultures do not clash. What is wrong with this judge? :sarcasm:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:14 AM
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17. Good riddance to another criminal from the house of Saud...
only about 35,000 more to go
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:28 AM
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18. I think a better punishment would have been making her do community service
perhaps cleaning homeless shelters and working in the kitchen.


She needs to live the life of the folks she was messing with..
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:54 AM
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19. I smell a Christmas Eve pardon!
Really, it's an old Bush family tradition. Never fear, Princess.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 12:07 PM
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21. Bush already issued his pardons for this year
and neither the Princess, Scooter or Jeffrey got one.

Bush seems to forget his 'friends' quickly when they get in trouble. For him loyalty is a one way street.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:58 AM
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20. make no mistake. this is themindset of the uberwealthy.
they won't be satisfied, even when we are all slaves. their only concern is their own comfort and power.
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