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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:35 AM
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Spanish doctor says Castro recovering, no cancer
A Spanish doctor who has just examined Fidel Castro said on Tuesday the Cuban leader was recovering and did not have cancer.

"He asks every day to return to work, but doctors advise him not to," surgeon Jose Luis Garcia Sabrido told a news conference in Madrid after returning from Cuba.

Garcia Sabrido, who flew to Cuba last week to examine the 80-year-old communist leader, said he did not need surgery but required muscular rehabilitation and a strict diet in order to recover.

"He does not have cancer, he has a problem with his digestive system," Garcia Sabrido told Reuters after the news conference.


http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1913852006
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:53 AM
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1. So he is 80 and can not digest food?
No problems then.

BTW I don't buy this "story" for a second ..... in many cases of
cancer the g.i. tract is obstructed by the cancer. And I think that
the Spanish Dr. who was brought in is a CANCER SPECIALIST.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:57 AM
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4. Well your CANCER SPECIALIST just said it was not cancer
and his reputation is on the line. A doctor from Spain will not lie for political reason... Duhhhhhh
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:02 AM
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5. Not "My Cancer Specialist," I am just repeating what I heard on the news.
BTW Communist Governments have been known to lie from time to time too.

Why would they fly in a Cancer Dr. if Castro did not have cancer?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:03 AM
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6. When did Spain turn to being a communist government
:shrug: news to me...
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:10 AM
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7. Right after Franco died Spain became a communist country .....
..... run by a Maoist government of Sendero Luminoso. The King, Basque Sheepherders,
and 14 year old girls from Madrid were behind this troika of "red death."

Ah, I think the commies are in Cuba.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:15 AM
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8. Learn something new every day.. Spain is TODAY a communist country
and the communist CANCER Specialist says he does not have cancer....

:rofl: somebody has been listening to Rush toooooo much..
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:29 AM
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9. I never listen to Rush
but i will tell you how Henry VIII used to take U.F.O. rides to visit the Incas
@ Machu Picchu.



BTW the Dr. is not a Communist ..... he is a Free Mason.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:54 AM
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2. Castro is 80 years old...
Any problem will take longer than it would in a 40 yo...
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:54 AM
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3. They still won't announce what he has.
Castro is entitled like anyone else to his privacy on medical matters, but I don't care for the teases - "it's not cancer" - without saying what it is.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:33 PM
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14. Huh?
Posted by robcon--> Castro is entitled like anyone else to his privacy on medical matters, but I don't care for the teases - "it's not cancer" - without saying what it is.

____


Hmmm.. a most basic contradiction (more hypocrisy?).


So, you do care for the patient's medical privacy? Or don't?

Seems like, when it comes to most things Cuban (or Castro), you want facts, laws, actions, both ways (you pick and choose according to your bias).

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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 08:39 AM
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30. You seem a little sensitive, MIka.
If Castro wants privacy, that's fine. If he wants to announce what he has, that's fine. But teases about his condition are annoying, and, I suspect, self-serving.

Gee, Mika, could you get a little less sensitive???
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:50 AM
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10. Castro has 60 more years to live
His doctors told us so.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 04:52 PM
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19. Some of us were tempted to recognize it was probably a figure of speech, meant
to indicate that he appeared to be in fine health at the time that remark was made, and a descendent of a family of people who all lived to be quite old.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 09:59 AM
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11. well duh.....eating cuban food for over 79 years
just may have done the trick. you know ,sometimes 80 year old people develop digestive problems.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:11 AM
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12. So, next up is a taxidermist? n/t
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 12:11 PM
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13. cal04, the actual headline is: -Castro cancer free, "could govern again"-
Castro cancer free, "could govern again"
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1913852006


Too late to comply with DU's rules of LBN threads though.

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:21 PM
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15. Why did they bring in a doctor from Spain?
Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world, or so I've heard (I've never been there). It seems to me like such a system would certainly have a few highly regarded cancer specialists, being such a common issue.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 01:42 PM
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16. Cuba does have cancer specialists..
.. but, as any good practitioner would do, getting another expert opinion can help. Dr. Garcia Sabrido is a one-of-a-kind specialist whose opinions are sought out by Drs. & patients around the world.

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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 03:03 PM
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17. I figured they did...
Edited on Tue Dec-26-06 03:07 PM by hughee99
It just seems like since he didn't actually have cancer, according to Dr. Sabrido, it would be odd that the doctors in Cuba brought him in. Was he misdiagnosed by other doctors? If not, why bring in a cancer specialist for a patient that doesn't have cancer, or is his medical situation really that complicated?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 04:41 PM
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18. He's more of an acute pancreatitis and multi organ failure specialist.
Cancer is related to his specialty, but not exclusive to it.

Even though there isn't cancer in Mr Castro's diagnosis, acute pancreatitis is deadly serious.

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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:13 PM
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20. Que viva Fidel. The people don't call him Castro.
They call him Fidel.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:26 PM
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21. Thanks for driving that point home. I've heard crowds calling thim that in recordings,
but it never really quite registered with me. I'm starting to see what it means.

I have read several places that the day he fainted in the hot sun after speaking a long time, a lot of people appeared very upset about it, as in many people seen weeping who thought it was a deadly situation.



Alberto Korda's "El Quijote de la Farola, 1959"

Crowd turned out to greet the revolutionaries returing to Havana
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 05:54 PM
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22. It happens all over the Third World and it happens in New York...
you can see and listen from Estelle Bravo's excellent documentary on the Cuban leader, which interviews Wayne Smith and many others. There are three parts each about 30 minutes long, but his very warm welcome to New York several years ago is the beginning of Part 1...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7412746284254207344&q=fidel+The+Untold+Story&hl=en
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 06:06 PM
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23. Wow! I just looked at the opening image, and it was a winner.
The signed which loomed into view was very worthwhile. I'm saving this under two different headings to make sure I don't lose track of it.

I am going to wait until I can put everything aside so I won't be interrupted to watch it. That's the first time I ever HEARD Cuban waves! Woohoooo.

Wayne Smith has done more than any American I can think of to advance the truth about Cuba. So glad he worked there for years as the head of the U.S. Interests Section. It's a tragic decline to realize the kind of scum Bush has sent there as our official "diplomats."

Thank you for sharing this video. Hope a lot of folks will watch it. I am going to die laughing if it reveals some great truth to dispel the thick smog of hot air a few right-wingers have left here to addle the easily confused about Cuba and Cubans. I suspect it will!
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 07:53 PM
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24. Highlights in the documentary... Fidel: The Untold Story
Brava's documentary is excellent, but here's a few highlights that may interest some. Each segment is about 30 minutes.

Part I:
  • Early life
  • Revolution
  • Touring the US (Malcolm X, Khruschev, etc)
  • Edward R Murrow interview
  • Agrarian land reform
  • Nationalizing companies
  • Embargo

    Part II:
  • Fidel in Allende's Chile (move slider to 12:03)
  • Return of Che's remains
  • In Latin America (at 17:24) (HUGE crowds)
  • Venezuela with Chavez (18:00)
  • Fidel and Mandela (21:00)
  • Fidel in Africa (23:25)

    Part III:
  • Special period
  • Fidel, Compay Segundo, and Buena Vista musicians (9:53)
  • Fidel in New York, UN, lunch at the WSJ, New York police department, Harlem (15:00)
  • Pope's visit to Cuba
  • Miami journalist (23:27)
  • Elian and interview with Juan Miguel

    Enjoy!!

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=fidel+The+Untold+Story&hl=en
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    CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:46 AM
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    25. Castro 'does not have cancer'
    A Spanish surgeon who has examined Fidel Castro has said that the Cuban leader does not have cancer.

    Speaking on Tuesday after his return to Spain, Dr Jose Luis Garcia Sabrido dismissed US government speculation that Castro was close to death.

    Instead he said the communist leader was recovering from an operation to stem intestinal bleeding.

    "His physical activity is excellent, his intellectual activity intact, I'd say fantastic, he's recovering from his previous operation," Garcia Sabrido, head of surgery at Madrid's Gregorio Maranon public hospital, said.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A9EEDEF9-F925-4CC8-865D-BA4BD2F2AA00.htm
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    Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:46 AM
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    26. How did the cancer rumor get started, then?
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    CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:46 AM
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    27. Who Knows
    But a Google search brings up this.

    Castro Reported to Have Cancer
    U.S. intelligence reports now say the Cuban leader's condition appears terminal, government officials tell TIME

    Ever since President Fidel Castro was sidelined for what was said to be abdominal surgery last July, Cuban officials have maintained that the country's leader will return to his post. "We will again have him leading the revolution," said Foreign Minister Felipe P�rez Roque just two days ago, speaking at an outdoor rally to protest the U.S. trade embargo against Cuba, according to the Communist Party daily newspaper Granma.

    But U.S. officials tell TIME that many in the U.S. government are now convinced that Castro, 80, has terminal cancer and will never return to power. "Certainly we have heard this, that this guy has terminal cancer," said one U.S. official.

    Of course, such intelligence reports could be wrong, and one official cautioned that definitive proof is nearly impossible for the U.S. to come by. Yet the fact that the Cuban government removed Castro from the public stage before his death could suggest that Castro and his would-be successors were aware of a terminal condition and wanted to gauge public reaction to his absence. "They got to see how people would react," says one U.S. official. "They have had a chance to see how things might work without out him functioning day-to-day."

    Contacted by TIME, the Cuban government denied the imminent demise of its leader. One high-ranking official said, "The United States Intelligence Services have been wrong for more than 47 years in their predictions not only in relation to the health of the Cuban President but also in all aspects regarding our country." He referred to Castro's July 31 statement as the only definitive assessment of the President's health. In it, Castro declared that surgery and treatment for intestinal bleeding "obliges me to spend several weeks in repose, away from my responsibilities and duties." Cuban sources say that preparations continue for a belated but elaborate celebration of Castro's 80th birthday on Dec. 2.

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1543828,00.html

    Guess time will tell.
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    Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:46 AM
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    28. Are they the same intelligence that said Saddam has weapons of Mass Destruction
    when we were the ones who did all the destruction?
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    dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 02:46 AM
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    29. I was just about to say that
    Ya know? Now speculation is better than U.S. "intelligence".
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    Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-27-06 12:59 PM
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    31. GUSANO Miami, that's where. They've been saying he's been near dead for decades n/t
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