BBC News: YouTube asked to 'remove' videos (by Viacom)

[Up2Late]

(Yup Daily Show and Colbert Report fans, the party is officially over at YouTube! Fortunately, if you upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to Version 9, the "MotherLoad" player at Comedy Central actually works! See link, below this story, to try it out!)

Friday, 2 February 2007, 22:42 GMT

YouTube asked to 'remove' videos

Viacom, the parent firm of cable networks MTV and Nickelodeon, has told popular video sharing site YouTube to remove 100,000 "unauthorised" clips.

YouTube and its parent Google failed to install tools to "filter" the unauthorised video clips, said Viacom.

The firm said after talks over several months YouTube seemed "unwilling to come to a fair market agreement" to let readers access Viacom content. YouTube has said it will comply with Viacom's request.

'Passionate audience'

The firm said that it works with "all copyright holders to identify and promptly remove infringing content" as soon as it is officially notified.

But it added that it was "unfortunate" that Viacom would no longer be able to "benefit from YouTube's passionate audience which had helped promote many of Viacom's shows".

(more at link) <http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6326523.stm>

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[msongs]

1. yes instead, you can watch my videos at youtube.com/videos/msongs and

while I am not as entertaining as viacom's oldies that are gonna lose out from all this free promotion at little expense to themselves I am more than happy to fill the gap LOL!

I coulda been a contender.

Msongs
www.youtube.com/videos/msongs

[MrPrax]

2. 'Nickelodeon'

Nickelodeon is an early 20th century form of small, neighborhood movie theaters in which admission was obtained for a nickel. By 1907, one estimate (based on basic business economics) was that an average of over two million people attended the nickelodeons daily. The popularity of these affordable, entertaining, and highly profitable venues was such that their numbers mushroomed to approximately 8,000 in the U.S. by 1908.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_movie_theater">Wiki

Imagine...a DIGITAL channel that stills fancies itself as a revenue model from 1908 when it's 2007

Imagine...a salesman who actually turns away interested customers without EVEN a taste

Imagine...that the world stopped and people think that other people might actually PAY for the privilege to 'view' an image of Jon Stewart performing...

...and then there are other batshit crazy ideas like THINKING that water is best managed by a CEO with a board of directors of a publicly listed corporation, as opposed to people who actually drink water...

[Up2Late]

3. Yup, they deleted all my classic old Daily Show videos months ago...

...videos, BTW, that were nearly impossible to find anywhere on the internet, videos that I spent probably close to 100 hours of my time digitally transferring, rendering, editing, and then uploading, and then Google buys them and "click" deleted.

I even had several old commercials and show promos for for Comedy Central on my YouTube "channel" for most of the time too. I wouldn't have minded if they had asked me to place banner ads on my page in exchange for letting me keep the videos up (which was basically doing their work for free for them), but NO!

Once they deleted my account, I pretty much lost interest in YouTube and have moved some of my videos to other smaller, but similar sites.

[MrPrax]

4. I feel your pain...

I haven't posting much lately coz I have bin buzy trying to get a sound problem solved.

The sound problem was/is endemic to the system we live in.

A mid range corp hotel has 'conference facilities' with state of the art sound!...but a bunch of realtors figure their 'concept' of a multi-media 'in-house' instructional to motivate 'employees' will produce the type of 'results' they expect from 'finishers'. (my company becomes subsumed as a finisher in their world)

You explain that the 'space' they paid good money for has less than 'state of the art' and producing 'product' to their specs might have been less problematic to the business relationship/their 'vision' IF they had done some homework or thought out what they might done with a 'concept' involving them and their employees and selling shit.

Your a revolutionary and you don't know it yet!

probably close to 100 hours of my time

Add it to that 'angry ball' that burns inside those that get the joke...and hope things will change

(my new chant: I'm smart, I'm mobile, I'm poor)

[fasttense]

5. OK MrPrax, I didn't understand half of what you posted.

But I'm sure it was good.

But seriously, does it seem to anyone else that so many useless corporations are buying up things just so they can charge people. They want to make money by doing nothing. I heard a statistic the other day that said 46% of all business transactions take place within the same corporation.

Pretty soon corporations will own everything.

[MrPrax]

12. Exactly!

Not only that...we are headed for dictatorship because that is the ONLY way corporate ownership can produce this arrangement; total and unaccountable ownership

My 'problem': I used it to illustrate the real frustration of dealing with some local high rolling baby boomers who seems utterly clueless about the fact that simply having the money to 'buy' people isn't going to produce the result they want...because what they want is impossible.

But in all honesty, I will probably have to turn the file over...he's twice now abused what little staff I have...and I can ONLY be motivated by money so far. I swear I will punch the shit out of him.

People like him are like Viacom -- they own it and they will make a buck from it or destroy it so it doesn't become a 'threat'.

Until the sheep get off their lottery fantasies of 'making' it; the corps will rule until there is nothing left but mutton.

[Henny Penny]

19. What are those smaller but similar sites?

I'd be happy to frequent them instead of youtube.

[HuffleClaw]

6. WHEN will these stupid media companies realize they are only hurting themselves with

this crap? youtube is an advertisers dream. FREE publicity for the taking. but nooooooooo.

[wholetruth]

13. They are pennywise and pound foolish

They won't notice until they lose money

[HuffleClaw]

15. which, of course, they'll blame on 'pirates'

pretty circular argument. they'll never learn.

[TheWatcher]

17. When will you wake up and realize why they are doing it.

It's about controlling content, and suppression of content they don't want you to see.

After all, we might start filling in the blanks, connecting dots, thinking for ourselves, all kinds of bad stuff.

They want us entertained, NOT educated, not enlightened.

The want Sheep, not Scholars.

[depakid]

7. Media re-regulation

Will come- and corporations like Viacom will have helped to bring it on.

Next up: reform of the numerous abuses brought about by intellectual property law gone wild.

[Heidi]

8. Kick.

:kick:

[Joanne98]

9. Viacom orders Google to pull YouTube clips

Viacom orders Google to pull YouTube clips
Media giants fall out over revenue sharing
GRANT ROBERTSON

MEDIA REPORTER

TV giant Viacom Inc., which owns more than 130 TV networks around the world, has ordered Google Inc. to remove more than 100,000 unauthorized clips from its YouTube website.

YouTube, a wildly popular site where users post homemade video clips and material gleaned from networks, has been in numerous copyright scuffles since it launched in 2005. However, New York-based Viacom is accusing Google of hoarding advertising revenue generated by the increased online traffic YouTube brings to Google's search engine.

"After months of ongoing discussions with YouTube and Google, it has become clear that YouTube is unwilling to come to a fair-market agreement," Viacom said in a statement. "YouTube and Google retain all of the revenue generated from this practice, without extending fair compensation to the people who have expended all of the effort and cost to create it."

YouTube responded by agreeing to pull Viacom content -- which includes clips from U.S. cable channels MTV, Comedy Central and Country Music Television -- off the site immediately.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070203.RVIACOM03/TPStory/Business

Viacom can go to Hell. Youtube doesn't need them anyway. I'm reading "The Starfish and the Spider".. The corporate media is going extinct. Good riddance.

[aaronbees]

10. Why don't they take a cue from CBS and others?

Companies that post their videos on Youtube ... free advertising in the new media age sucks, eh?

[ohio2007]

11. It's about all the music videos isn't it ? YouTube was an archive

in presenting some "pre MTV" era videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MePaQmP88g&mode=related&search=

The true Golden age of rock and roll to be taken away from public viewing !

[darkstar7646]

14. Enjoy YouTube while you can...

Because it's going away. That's at least the fourth major call to remove material...

YouTube is this year's Napster, and it's going to get sued for everything it has.

[Barrett808]

16. Today my Peter Gabriel, Art Of Noise, Depeche Mode, Yaz, The Cars taken down

Many still remain, for now.

Ah damn, they just got the Gnarls Barkley "Smiley Faces" video.

[Up2Late]

18. I rarely visit YouTube anymore, you should check out DailyMotion...

...it's basically a French YouTube, but it allows more "sexy" content and it hasn't been taken over by a mega-corp yet. They have loads of great old Music Videos!

Here's the link: <http://www.dailymotion.com/1>

And my page there:

<http://www.dailymotion.com/Up2Late2>

I have a bunch of videos like the ones you mentioned on my Favorites page:

<http://www.dailymotion.com/bookmarks/Up2Late2>