Bush Says Saddam Should Face 'Ultimate Justice'

[Paragon]

Super-duper justice! Extreme justice! Celebrity Justice?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20031216/ts_nm/iraq_bush_dc

"He is a torturer, a murderer, and they had rape rooms, and this is a disgusting tyrant who deserves justice, the ultimate justice. But that will be decided not by the president of the United States, but by the citizens of Iraq in one form or another," Bush said in excerpts of an interview with ABC News.

A White House official said Bush was referring to the death penalty.

Bush said the Iraqis are "capable of conducting the trial themselves" and the White House expressed doubt that U.N. involvement would be needed.

Bush hinted on Monday that he thought Saddam should face the death penalty, telling a news conference, "I've got my own personal views" on what should happen to Saddam, who was captured by U.S. troops on Saturday.

[bif]

1. Who cares what you think!

You worthless piece of shit!

[westman]

33. Ladies and gentlemen,

Let's not make Saddam a hero. On balance, he really IS more evil than Bush.

[scisyhp]

34. No he is not.

If evilness is measured by amount of actual and potential harm
caused to the innocent, nobody in this world can even stand next to
Bush.

[westman]

38. You can't possibly believe that.

If you do, then even in terms of your "potential harm" Saddam is far worse.

[are_we_united_yet]

39. WHat the hell are you talking about?

[westman]

44. Read post 34.

That should clear it up for you.

[atreides1]

45. Question For You

If Saddam is more evil then Bush, wouldn't you agree that those who provided Saddam with material support are just as evil as he.

That being said shouldn't Saddam's accomplices also be placed on trial
for the part that they played?

After all it's known that the US provided him with funds, equipment, and chemical and biological agents that were used against the Iranians, the Kurds, and the Kuwaitis.

If Saddam isn't a hero, and I don't believe he is, then neither is Reagan, Bush I, Cheney, or Rumsfeld. All of these men assisted Saddam
with the crimes he is accused of, at least in regard to the Iran/Iraq
war.

So if Saddam is evil so are the men listed above, and they should all
be tried for crimes against humanity.

Remember all of them looked the other way while Saddam was killing, raping, and stealing from the Iraqi people.

My final question, who is the most evil, the man committing the crime
or those who assist him and then look the other way while the crime is being committed, those who stand by and do nothing while Iranian soldiers, and Kurdish civilians are murdered.

I think that all those that I have named are much more evil then Saddam could ever be!!!

[westman]

48. Less than ten percent

of the population agrees with you. That's why we'll have W around until January 2009. Be productive. Build a cogent argument around a Democratic candidate with a chance to win. Don't get suckered into believing Roswell-like stories just because you're motivated by your hatred.

[hussar]

50. Got it right there

and let us not forget the US backing of Osama right up to the last minute and the BFEE involvment with the Bin Ladens.

[0007]

54. He is Ronald Reagan, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld,

and the Republicans Frankenstien. The creation for the wellfare of mankind for which it stands under One God.

On balance, junior and Saddam Hussein are tied for being evil.

[are_we_united_yet]

40. Summed it up rather nicely there

:)

[LiberalVoice]

2. OMG! In a court in Iraq!?!?!?!?

There goes even the remote possibility of a real trial.

[underpants]

18. How many outcomes are you expecting?

A "real" trial? Yes he should get a fair trial but to think that this verdict is going to be anything but guilty is now to based in reality.

[PsychoDad]

24. "In one form or another"

Keeps echoing in my head. Exactaly what does that mean?

[TexasMexican]

43. for Saddam it really doesnt matter...

he is guilty.

The important think is to try him in a place where a death penalty can be given to him.

This rules out the Haige or anything sponsored by the UN.

Its pretty sad really that they dont leave thier options open, as such they are completely ineffective when dealing with people like Saddam. I also dont think Milosevic will be getting the justice he truely deserves.

[LiberalFighter]

55. I agree

A court in Iraq would in reality be a "American" controlled court or be suspected as such.

The only alternative would be to have an International Court conduct the trial. The parties could only consist of Iraqis and possibly Middle East countries. The American government could not be a party except to be charged with illegal invasion and false charges against Iraq.

Try Saddam in an international court
But the stakes now are enormous. The fairness of the tribunal he is brought before will determine whether his prosecution advances the rule of law in Iraq or perpetuates a system of arbitrary revenge. Washington says it has not yet decided what to do with him, but the first moves of the U.S.-dominated Iraqi Governing Council are not auspicious.

[lefty_mcduff]

3. One way to shut Saddam up....

...don't want the insider info on the BFEE getting out.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. They need Sadamn to be silent

PRONTO

Before he embarrases the bushes

[Triana]

5. I think Bu$h Should Face...

...ultimate Justice...he's as bad as Sadaam, IMO

[Whoa_Nelly]

13. The man needs to keep his mouth shut

and stop his cowboy "lynch'em" BS.

[llmart]

47. agreed!

Every time he opens his mouth he is completely unpresidential and IMO an embarrassment to anyone with an ounce of intelligence who cares about the image the US has around the world.

[cthrumatrix]

6. Ultimate justice is an International Trial where all "helpers" in his

run as disctator are punished.

Those who supplied the arms...weapons and the horrific crime against humanity.

A Nice, Long , Public Trial ..... LIVE .... where all are exposed.

That is justice.

How about that shrub? Is that what you want?

[bluestateguy]

7. It's not his decision

First and foremost it is Iraq's decision. If not Iraq, then the US would have to get in line to charge him, and I think Iran or even Israel would have a better claim to him than we would.

Believe it or not Mr. Bush, other countries have the right to administer their own justice systems free from US interference.

[loudnclear]

8. That would mean he would free and God would judge him...

if you are a true Christian that's what you have to believe...right George?

[htuttle]

9. "Ultimate Justice"

That's a Japanese game show, right?

[freethought23]

10. Super-duper justice! Extreme justice! Celebrity Justice?

That's what Karl Rove was saying to himself last night while brainstorming. Then he said: "I've got it! ULTIMATE justice!"

[loudsue]

11. The BFEE needs to be brought to "ultimate" justice.....

whatever in the world it is...if it's good enough for Saddam, it's good enough for the Bush Family Evil Empire.

I have NO doubt Saddam wouldn't live to testify about anything that could hurt bush.

This fiasco is going to be the "ultimate INJUSTICE" to the word "justice".

Let the World Court handle this.

:kick:

12. I always thought Ultimate Justice was handled by god

& whatever happens here on earth, if God exists, Saddam will get ultimate justice eventually.

[moondust]

20. That only applies to believers in God

as someone/something other than themselves.

49. just saw this response

LOL

[kclown]

14. 456 Americans have gotten "the ultimate justice"

Did they have rape rooms?

[0007]

15. I think junior gets all hopped reading that bullshit at FeeRupulic.com

No dignity, no class.

[Jonte_1979]

16. "Ultimate Justice" sounds like a show on the USA network

"An ex-Shaolin monk and a cop with a reputation for being a "loose cannon" team up to clean up the mean streets of Atlanta."

[hatrack]

17. Steven Seagal and Jackie Chan are BACK!

"They're hear to clean up the mean streets of Baghdad - one terrorist at a time! Don't miss - ULTIMATE JUSTICE!!!"

[thebigidea]

26. Steven Seagal IS... HARD... TO... WATCH!

[underpants]

19. Ah yes once again we share with the child the image of RAPE ROOMS

Seriously Saddam is a horrible person but the President (IMHO) really doesn't need to be bringing this up anywhere that kids (I mean kids) are going to hear it and need an explanation.

I think there is a time and place for kids to be informed about certain things and that is up to the parent. The TV should not be forcing those conversations in American (or any) homes.

[frylock]

21. oddly enough, a google of the word "rape room"..

made right after he trotted that little gem out (when he was supposed to be begging the UN for help) produced a minimum of hits, all pointing to RW sites. It appeared that the term never really existed. Do a search now, and it's 500 links to pr0n sites.

[Guaranteed]

22. I knew it...

I knew he'd just let them kill him, so they get off scot-free. Hiding behind the Shiites....

The Shiites think he's their buddy, now...little do they know....

On edit: Oh yeah, forgot to mention: He's going to be a martyr, now.

[Tempest]

23. "Ultimate Justice"? Is that the Xian way of saying kill him dead?

Will * mock Saddam the same way he mocked Tucker after killing her?

[PsychoDad]

25. "I've got my own personal views"

I read this as saying....

"I never met a prisoner I didn't want to kill".

:Silly:
Sorta sums up yer position as governer of texas, don't it.

[number6]

27. Bu$h and Oil crooks should face Total Justice.

:spank:

[IndianaGreen]

28. Saddam and Bush should both face "ultimate justice"

and they should both get a fair trial under the Nuremberg statutes.

[MrBenchley]

29. Ultimate justice?

I n Texas doesn't that involve a cage around the wrestling ring?

[roguevalley]

30. so basically he's facing life in prison with W speeches piped into his

cell ...

[LiberalFighter]

56. As long as empty head gets to rant his stuff for Saddam

They can torture each other.

[Manix]

31. This creep is an absolute embarrassment to America!!

nt

[lazarus]

32. He's still on about the rape rooms?

Bush is one twisted individual.

[pinto]

35. soon to be a Faux reality show..."Saddam, Ultimate Justice".. n/t

[scisyhp]

36. "But that will be decided not by the president of the United States,

but by the citizens of Iraq in one form or another," Bush said.

You gotta give it to Bush, he does have a sense of humor. He didn't
defer it to "the citizens of Iraq" to decide that their country
had to be invaded, ruined, its government deposed, their leaders
hunted down, murdered or arrested. Now, all of a sudden, he is shy
about what to do with their president. God forbid he accidently
somehow violate the sovereign rights of Iraqi citizens. What a hoot.

[CalebHayes]

37. Duh! www.bushkills.com

152 in Texas!

[osaMABUSh]

41. What war crimes are we talking about?

I think a lot people think that Saddam is to be tried for War crimes for this current war. Is that what we are talking about? Or is it for previous wars?

Or is he to be charged with crimes against his people? (Not actually war crimes)

[dansolo]

42. At least he didn't say 'Infinite Justice'

n/t

[truthisfreedom]

46. judge "dred" bush presiding

judge, jury, executioner, and family cover-up expert.

[DemonFighterLives]

51. He could have chosen to act presidential here

But No. Turn him over to the executioners and soon we will have the Iraq's dragging his head through the streets. If we were truly attempting democracy, we should teach these Barbarians how it is done in the real world with a real trial and imprisonment. I was trying to think of the word Robinson Cruscoe used for the Godless Cannibals.
This president is shameful in his blood lust. Poppy can really be proud.

[KansDem]

52. If convicted and sentenced to die...

Will Bush be given an opportunity to mimic him?

Mr. Bush chose to mimic the late Karla Faye begging for mercy: "Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me."
http://www.blackcommentator.com/28/28_guest_commentary_1.html

[westman]

53. Mr. Walker

has an ax to grind, apparently. His paper cannot be considered a scholarly work with the inclusion of the obvious invective woven throughout.

[0007]

57. Excellent post my good friend,

junior's ultimate justice day is at hand.

Saddam can talk about how, why and by whom the Shi'ite intifada was betrayed after the end of the first Gulf War in 1991. He will give American names. He will detail the American deal under which the US was to have helped the Shi'ites. He will prove that those exhumed bodies incriminate the Anglo-American alliance as much as himself.

He will keep talking all the way back to 1989, to the famous meeting on December 20, 1983 in Baghdad with his friend Donald Rumsfeld, now Pentagon chief. The fuzzy photo of Rumsfeld eagerly shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, observed by foreign minister Tarik Aziz - which simply vanished from corporate media - will be one of the stars of the trial. Rumsfeld was sent by then president Ronald Reagan to mend relations between the US and Iraq only one month after Reagan had adopted a secret directive - still partly classified - to help Saddam fight the Islamic revolution in Iran. Saddam will detail how this close cooperation led to Washington selling loads of military equipment and also chemical precursors, insecticides, aluminum tubes, missile components and anthrax to him. Of course he will be condemned for using the lot to gas Iranian soldiers and then civilian Kurds in Halabja, northern Iraq, in 1988. But he will also prove that the selling of these chemical weapons was organized by Rumsfeld.

[burythehatchet]

58. Americans Say Bush Should Face 'Ultimate Justice'

[0007]

59. Mahajustice in the face of true jyoti,.

I agree.

Maha = great
jyoti = light

[burythehatchet]

60. aap Hindi bol thay hun?

[0007]

61. Ekatvanyatva!

[gnosticdave]

62. Copyright violators

Don't look now, but I think this thread just got quoted.

[0007]

63. Welcome to DU Dave, hope you like it here, lots of great folks..

Went to that link you provided and found it rather hilarious and filled with saucy remarks.

By the way how did you find us here?

[opihimoimoi]

64. Saddam faces life in a small cell with Rush Limballs.

May the Forces deal this one out.... I would really appreciate the irony.

[Bhaisahab]

67. hum bhi hindi bolta hoon!

kya samjhey? ;)

[PartyPooper]

65. The pot calling the kettle black.

So, what else is new?

:eyes:

[stickdog]

66. Bush would make a great juror for Saddam's trial.

Hussein deserves a jury of his peers.