(Tom) Noe's wife claims he is in solitary confinement

[sabra]

Source: Toledo Blade

COLUMBUS - Tom Noe has arrived at a federal prison camp in South Carolina, but his wife says he's been locked up in solitary confinement, a development that is upsetting her and her children.

Mike Truman, a spokesman for the federal Bureau of Prisons, confirmed yesterday that Noe was transported April 25 to the Edgefield, S.C. prison, which is about 25 miles north of Augusta, Ga.

Noe, a former Toledo-area coin dealer, past chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party, and a Bush Pioneer for raising more than $100,000 for President Bush's re-election, is being held at the minimum-security camp, said prison spokesman Wayne Smith. He declined to release any other information about the criminal.

...

"He said, 'I've got to talk fast. I'm getting moved. They told me they counted my points wrong in Texas. I'm not supposed to be here and I'm being put in the hole,'•" Ms. Noe said in a telephone interview last night from Florida, where she continues to live.

Read more: http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070501/NEWS08/705010391/-1/NEWS

[Kagemusha]

1. ...Ah, he's not supposed to be in minimum secuirty...

so they put him in solitary at the minimum security place to make up for it, until he's moved to another location.

Maybe that's SOP in such cases.

[coffeenap]

2. She is right to be afraid--he certainly knows too much to allow

him access to anyone. She is smart to alert the press, this is a real risk for suiciding. (opinion)

[lynnertic]

3. cry me a river. But what are 'points' I wonder?

:cry: :cry: :cry:
:nopity:

[rodeodance]

8. the larger the number the more of a risk the person is to society. Catergorizing

deeds/behavior/crimes.

On the other hand------it also, in reverse order-----can categorize the danger to himself (if suicidal)

[Judi Lynn]

4. When they keep him in isolation all the time, and put shackles on him when he is taken

outside his cell, just like Susan McDougall did at Ken Starr's behest, THEN he might have a fair reason to grouse, and his wife to bother other people about it.

They should both try to cheer themselves up thinking of the days when they collected campaign funds for _{George W. Bush.}

[msanthrope]

19. Indeed, I thought of both McDougalls-- In the article

it mentions that Noe has been moved around--this is now his fifth prison. Like Susan MacDougal was moved around, to punish her.

And now, he's in solitary confinement, just like Jim, after Starr couldn't get anything else out of him. Jim died there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_McDougal

Wonder what Mt. Noe knows....watch out Tommy--the Pubbies'll kill ya'.....

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

5. Sounds like Noe may know too much for his own good.

[Botany]

6. Please Bernadette Noe ..........

Both you 2 helped fix the 2004 election .... remember your little stint
as head of the B.O.E. in Lucas County.

[jwirr]

7. If I am not mistaken all prisoners are isolated at first to make sure

they are not bringing contagious diseases into the prisons. At least that used to be true.

[rodeodance]

10. it is called 'intake" or assessment. varies by state and prison--but not necessarily

isolated

[kimmylavin]

9. I would think that

knowing their father is a criminal would be "upsetting" to their children.

What he's doing now is being punished for wrongdoing - aren't you supposed to teach your children that if you do something wrong, you have to pay the price?

[calimary]

26. Welcome to DU!

You know what to do.

Roll up your sleeves and get to work!

There's an IMPEACHMENT to launch, full-bore.

[GregW]

11. Time for Mr. Noe to get his UFIA in PMITAP

:D

[JDPriestly]

12. But, like adultery, the crimes he committed cannot be committed

by just one person. Other people had to know and condone his crimes. He was part of a fabric of corruption that shrouds the Bush administration.

[loudsue]

20. That is the point that should be shouted far & wide.

But, instead, the media makes it look like we're supposed to feel sorry for this republican hemorrhoid.

:kick:

[Doctor_J]

13. Maybe he'd do better in the GenPop at Attica

or at Parchment. He looks like he could drop a few pounds.

[tanyev]

14. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

:nopity:

[anotherdrew]

15. for his own protection most likely. Does she want him to make new friends? n/t

[Ian David]

16. And where was Mrs. Noe's outrage when her husband was bilking the taxpayers? n/t

[Peace Patriot]

17. I am always suspicious of Bush Junta prosecutions and imprisonments.

They're spying on everybody. They no doubt have dossiers on most politicians and political operatives, their shills and the opposition. They've been larding money on private corporations with mercenary armies and likely with black ops capabilities (to set people up, to create "accidents"). I don't trust them AT ALL. They are capable of anything. Nor do I trust their 'Justice' Dept., their FBI and any judges they've appointed, and any and all "news" reports from the war profiteering corporate news monopolies.

We might like to crow, and feel good, that "justice is being served," when a crook like Noe goes to prison. But his crookedness is so minor (big as it was) compared to the genocidal maniacs, and master thieves and war criminals, who put him there, you have got to wonder if we have any clue as to what is really going on, in any given circumstance. I'm just saying: be skeptical. Could be there are some "good guys" among prosecutors and FBI, etc., and they really are going after Bushite crime. Could also be that the Bush Junta is using the levers of the legal system to silence people, to intimidate, to threaten, to punish, to blackmail, to manipulate. Most Republicans belong in jail. I have no doubt about that. But think of the power that gives Bush, Rove, Cheney & Co. over them. The minor players get nailed; the big players run the government, the military and all intel.

You've really got to wonder about them letting people like Noe and Cunningham Abramoff run wild. Anybody else thinking about this? Why would the Bush Cartel and its global corporate predator pals need so much money for a campaign? Is it just that they attracted many criminal types in the lower rungs--didn't really need the money, but are so dirty themselves, everybody and his brother got into the game, to make a buck, to buy their way up? Or was it deliberate policy--a plan of operation--to recruit criminal types and have everybody be so dirty that anybody could be indicted, and thus, anybody could be manipulated (and kept in line, if necessary)? Or--maybe they really did need the money. Move-On and many small donors were keeping the Kerry campaign apace with Republican fundraising, as I recall--to everyone's amazement. Maybe nobody was donating to Bush-Cheney and they covered that up with all this theft and money-laundering.

Think big and bigger--up above their landscape. It's easy enough to scorn Noe--but where does he stand in the bigger picture? Is he being silenced? Threatened? In danger? Bribed (shorter sentence)? Bullied (longer sentence)? In solitary? Privileged? Being protected? Being set up? I wouldn't dismiss his wife's concerns, just because she was in on his dirty schemes. Also, people can change. It is the dark fascist view of the world that they cannot. I know they use the "born again" thing cynically and opportunistically. But the change CAN be genuine, especially after suffering. (I was just thinking about Robert McNamara, architect of the Vietnam War. Some people sneered at his regrets. And you gotta remain skeptical of all geopolitical gamesters and have's (and have mores). Still, there was something believable about McNamara's change of heart. I think redemption is always possible--even when great evil has been done. That's why I oppose capital punishment--more than any other reason. It is a fascist view--and a very wrong view--that human beings cannot change.)

Anyway, just sayin. Be wary. Be skeptical. The "news" we get from corporate sources is highly manipulated--and, as we have learned, to our grief--can be dead wrong, and deliberately so.

[rucky]

18. Maybe for his own protection?? n/t

[kster]

31. Or "THEIR" protection............nt

[Wiley50]

21. Put Him In GenPop, He Deserves a Big Strong Top Boyfriend

He sure screwed all of us

[jgraz]

32. And once again, prison rape "humor" substitutes for actual justice

Can't we just be happy the scumbag is behind bars? Does it really take reveling in (and enabling) anal rape of prisoners to make us feel better?

[Big Pappa]

33. Nothing like

some good ole man rape to start the morning off. Hell lets water board him as well. Nothing is to good for a repuke!:shrug: Let this ass wipe stay in prison but enough with the abuse.

[mod mom]

22. Perhaps Bernadette should go into the witness protection program. She and Tom

have the goods on Ohio in '04. They are probably trying to keep him quiet. Remember Bernadette Noe was Chair of the Lucas County BOE in '04 that had this uncovered:

REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.


http://www.solarbus.org/election/docs/lucas.pdf

Hey Bernadette...stay off small planes!

[mitchum]

23. Cry me a river, you dirtbag

[High Plains]

24. I am no friend of Mr. Noe, but...

the ugly anti-prisoner sentiment on display here is depressing. Gee, maybe he can get raped. Yuck yuck yuck. Pretty funny stuff.

Also, why is he being held in solitary confinement? By its very nature, solitary is cruel and unusual punishment.

Mr. Noe is only one of more than 2.2 million people behind bars in America on any given day. We are the most prison-happy country on the planet. It's a disgrace.

[yardwork]

25. It's a disgrace that Noe helped put and keep in power

Who privatized the prisons? Who allows torture of inmates? Who is limiting Constitutional rights? I don't have any sympathy for the perpetrators who get caught in the machinery. I agree with Peace Patriot's post above, too.

[SoCalDem]

27. "Toad in the Hole"..a republican delicacy, indeed n/t

[Karmageddon]

28. Solitary isn't fitting for his crime. Gitmo is more like it for an enemy of American democracy

[lonestarnot]

29. heh heh heh

[me b zola]

30. I wonder how many unsuccessful phone calls 'ol Bernadette made to the WH...

...before she took this story to the press. :shrug:

[cassiepriam]

34. Mrs Noe: what really hurts your children is having a lying no good thief

of a father. Who disgraced himself and his children by stealing millions
from the State of Ohio.

And if you don't want to do the time, don't commit the crime.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

35. send him to gitmo. he'll have plenty of company.

and once they learn who he is (the man who helped sElect the presdidn't, I wonder if they will ever leave him alone?

[depakid]

36. Republicans ALWAYS cry the loudest. Never fails.

I've seen it time and again over the years. They don't give a rat's ass about anyone other than themselves... but when it happens to them, just listen to them whine.

It's pathetic.

[TankLV]

37. Boo fucking hoo - he could be sharing a cell with bubba...

it could be a LOT worse.

Tell it to somebody who could give a good god damn for that coddled REPUKE CRIMINAL...