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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:48 PM
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McCaskill invitation to speak revoked
Source: The Associated Press

McCaskill invitation to speak revoked
Catholic high school doesn’t want senator to give commencement address.

By BETSY TAYLOR
The Associated Press
ST. LOUIS | U.S. Sen. Claire McCaskill was uninvited from speaking at her daughter’s Catholic high school commencement because of her positions on abortion and embryonic stem-cell research.

Students at St. Joseph’s Academy in the St. Louis suburb of Frontenac wanted McCaskill to speak at their graduation this month, McCaskill spokeswoman Adrianne Marsh said Tuesday.

But the offer was rescinded last week. The senator was told by the school that the decision came from St. Louis Archbishop Raymond Burke, Marsh said.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/91217.html



Archbishop Burke Strikes again
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:50 PM
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1. maybe they can find a child molesting priest to fill in for her nt
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:54 PM
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3. This is a girls school
Edited on Wed May-02-07 10:55 PM by pstokely
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:02 PM
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7. You can't mean girls are off limits for child molesting priests? n/t
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 01:38 AM
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13. Hooray for the Bishops! America's Talibans!!
:sarcasm:
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 08:47 PM
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18. We just don't hear much about priests molesting girls. That's "normal", don't you know?
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:54 PM
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2. The Catholic church should have their tax exemption revoked
Why should my taxes be increased when I don't believe in a right wing dogma and they do.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:58 PM
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5. And why should they receive federal tax monies?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:57 PM
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4. They wouldn't let Governor Joe Kernan speak at St. Joseph's High School in 2004
By Bishop John M. D'Arcy of the of Fort Wayne-South Bend Diocese
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:01 PM
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6. Didn't they know that when they invited her?
I don't have a problem with them opposing a commencement speaker because she holds views that run counter to their religious beliefs. It's a private school; they have that prerogative. But I hope they are equally as opposed to a speaker who champions other stands that the church rejects -- like preemptive war.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:09 PM
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8. That's just fucking rude..like
the archbishop is such a high and mighty.. I hate religion..sorry for anyone who might be offended.

I don't like abortions but I wouldn't want an archbishop butting his fucking nose in my affairs.

And what are embryonic stem cells good for except helping people?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:25 AM
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14. the underling that initally invit4d her should have known that this was not
acceptable to the Catholic Church.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:33 AM
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15. Sheryl Crow, Bob Costas, and Billy Crystal regard this Archbishop as a joke.
In a recent DU thread, I was stunned when some female DUer made the bizarre claim to the effect that "everyone knows" that nuns are really the ones in control of the Catholic church. In my lifetime of close observation of the Catholic church, and of many nuns, I believe nuns are perpetual underlings, who get tossed out if they dare to defy any priest, let alone any higher ranking males in the church heirarchy. Read the rest of the news item cited in the OP and you'll see that this archbishop, having made a very controversial decision to publicly insult a United States Senator, did not even have the courtesy or respect to speak directly to the high school's president (nun), or the nun in charge of the order which owns this private school.
Snippet from the article:
"Archdiocesan spokeswoman Anne Steffens said, “The decision was not made by the archbishop.” She said he wasn’t part of discussions on the matter.
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This smacks of the Gonzales school of management. We are supposed to believe that such a major decision - to publicly rebuke and insult a United States Senator - was made by some underling, and that the archbishop "wasn't part of discussions on the matter"?

The article also refers to the fact that this archbishop resigned from the board of a Catholic children's medical center because Sheryl Crow (who supports stem cell research & abortion rights) was providing entertainment for a charity fundraiser for the hospital. Fortunately that charity foundation is not run by nuns, so it's lay Board could thumb its nose at this turkey in archbishop's robes, and proceed to thereby raise a lot of money for a worthy cause.
Here's the story from a Sheryl Crow's fan forum website, quoting a story in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch (4/29/2007)
www.sherylcrow.com/boards/default.aspx?cid+224&tid=115057

Headline:
Archbishop Raymond Burke made it to the Fox Theatre Saturday — but only as a punch line.

When Bob Costas, the evening's host, walked onto the stage he scanned the crowd, gazing into the back rows of the upper balcony before breaking the prolonged silence. "All right," Costas quipped. "I guess the archbishop is not showing up." Last week, Burke resigned from the board of the Cardinal Glennon Children's Medical Center Foundation because Crow — a vocal supporter of embryonic stem cell research — was scheduled to headline the annual fundraiser and concert.

"Sheryl Crow made it clear that she is coming here for three reasons," Costas told the crowd. The singer wanted to help children, put on a good show and, Costas said,"get me ex-communicated." Later, comedian Billy Crystal, making another appearance at the annual event, joined the act. "I respect his right to choose," Crystal said of Burke. "His right to choose not to be here." After a round of applause, Crystal added: "After all, charity begins at home — because that's where he is."

Saturday's event benefits the Bob Costas Cancer Center at Cardinal Glennon Medical Center. The television announcer, who also emcees the fundraiser, spoke with reporters before engaging the crowd. Costas said he respected Burke's position but disagreed with it. "I have no regrets or hesitations about carrying on with Sheryl Crow this evening," he said. Costas said the controversy wouldn't affect planning of future benefits. Costas said he had never spoken to the archbishop about the event and had not received any personal appeal from Burke to drop Crow.


Crow, a singer who grew up in the Missouri Bootheel, appeared in a commercial last year in support of Missouri's Amendment 2, which protects embryonic stem cell research in the state. Burke campaigned against the measure, which passed.



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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 11:02 AM
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16. Right..and since when has the Catholic Church
wanted to help people?

it's all about power, power over the congregations; do as I say, not as I do; give us all your frickin money; have a kid every year, that way you will be barefoot and pregnant all the time to keep the church filled with soldiers;

Beware of men wearing pointy hats and long cloaks - they live like kings (princes of the church) while millions starve and die

You would think in the 21st century the sheep would start to wise up to these assholes
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 08:21 PM
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17. Lots have but not
enough to lower their standard of living.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:14 PM
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9. Just another indication that ....
I was right to pull our family from the grips of Catholicism before it was too late.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:20 PM
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10. I'm a Catholic, but I agree the Church's tax exempt status should be taken away!
I personally dont agree with abortion either, but I don't think Government at any level should have any ability to say anything about it! That is a decision that should be between the woman, her God, her Dr. and her husband. Period!

How did this issue even get into a government debate?

I understand is the debate should be about medicade paying for abortions, or in some other way funding them. I can understand why the opposition would disagree with their $$ being spent for abortions. If there's no funding, and I'm sure there isn't, why is this even considered an issue?

I've never heard of any major discussions about in vitro, or artificial insemination. The Catholic Church is against those too!

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 11:44 PM
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11. That St. Louis Archbishop...
Has crossed that line too many times, the line of using his church for political ends.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 01:04 AM
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12. Hardly surprising.
The catholic church, and its many offshoots, is, was and has been a political entity and force for its entire history, going back nearly two millennia. It was often the most powerful political power and even the only political power in many areas.
They have exercised life and death authority over millions, established and collected taxes and raised armies. A "tithe" is little more than a regressive or even a "sales" tax, levied on its parishioners.

I have long since passed the stage of aggrieved retribution and total condemnation of religion in general, but I do hold that sparing large institutions the task of and responsibility for contributing to the general welfare of the nation is a tax imposed on the rest of us.
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 11:51 PM
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19. If this is the case, no politician ever should speak
"The Christian faith is an integral unity, and thus it is incoherent to isolate some particular element to the detriment of the whole of Catholic doctrine. A political commitment to a single isolated aspect of the Church's social doctrine does not exhaust one's responsibility toward the common good" (Doctrinal Note on Some Questions Regarding the Participation of Catholics in Political Life, Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, November 24, 2002, and approved by the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II).

The Catholic Church teaches that all life is sacred. A candidate for office must understand that the Church stands against any policy or course of action that diminishes life, dignity or the rights of the human person: abortion, capital punishment, war, scandalous poverty, denial of healthcare, mistreatment of immigrants and racism, to name but a few. (U.S. Catholic Bishops statement on faithful citizenship 2004)

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No politician will ever speak at a Catholic institution ever in this day and age!!!!! Of all the things listed, the repbulics have problems with all of them except abortion in the Catholic view. And as the Pope said "A political commitment to a single isolated aspect of the Church's social doctrine does not exhaust one's responsibility toward the common good" So the republics lost that one too.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 12:03 AM
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20. Raymond Burke is an ass.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 07:46 AM
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21. I certainly wouldn't have my daughter going to a school where they would't let Sen. McCaskill speak.
My children would be immediately pulled from the school.

Why do people put up with this?

Why would someone PAY these people?

I hope Ms. McCaskill's kid tells them where to SHOVE their
diploma.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 08:27 AM
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22. So, she's pro-choice, and she won't be allowed to speak . . .
But her daughter is allowed to attend, and the school does take the tuition money Claire pays to send her daughter there.

Shouldn't they just ban students whose parents favor abortion rights, or gay marriage/civil unions, or who use contraception?

Just askin'.
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