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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 02:09 PM
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Potential terror jurors cite 9/11 doubts
Source: AP

Many potential jurors in the Jose Padilla terrorism-support case say they aren't sure who directed the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks because they don't trust reporters or the federal government.

"There are too many ifs, too many things going on," one male juror said. "I don't know the whole story."

Others say they just don't pay close enough attention to world events to be certain.

"I'm oblivious to that stuff," one prospective female juror said during questioning this week. "I don't watch the news much. I try to avoid it."

The doubts were noted by a significant portion of the more than 160 people who have been questioned individually since jury selection in the case began April 16.

Read more: http://www.kentucky.com/513/story/60047.html
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 02:16 PM
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1. i find this encouraging..
QUESTION EVERYTHING!!!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 02:23 PM
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2. "significant portion of the more than 160 people"
:wow:
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:40 PM
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11. I wonder why they don't just specify a number, rather than say "significant portion"?
That's a bit bizarre.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 05:06 PM
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19. Yeah, a result of "news reporting" that people have come to distrust.
Don't want to report the "bad news" about news...
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softwarevotingtrail Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:47 AM
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31. MSM surveys show many doubt the "official" version of 9/11
In a Zogby International poll from last May, 42 per cent of the sampled U.S. population believe the 9/11 Commission "concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence" in the attacks. In a Zogby poll two years earlier, 49 per cent of New York City residents said some U.S. leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on and around Sept. 11, 2001, and they consciously failed to act." In other words, intentionally let it happen. In Canada, a May 2004 Maritz Research poll had 63 per cent of respondents agreeing strongly or somewhat that "individuals within the U.S. government including the White House had prior knowledge of the plans for Sept. 11 and failed to take appropriate action to stop them."

One thing is undeniable. If skepticism about 9/11 is the province of the "tin-foil hat crowd," things are looking up for the aluminum industry.

http://www.vancourier.com/issues06/084206/opinion/084206op2.html

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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 07:28 PM
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26. "The American people don't read.", Did things change since the Warren Report ?


The Warren Commission member who took charge of the investigation and final report - is reported to have said, "The American people don't read."
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:05 PM
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4. I find this troubling. It shows how little anyone trusts our government.
It's no longer "our" government, it's "theirs".

I've not seen any evidence, however, that stands up to reason and scrutiny on this matter.
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sobanos Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:11 PM
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5. Troubling? Not to me...........
I find this troubling. It shows how little anyone trusts our government.
Posted by originalpckelly



Actually, I find it "encouraging".......... the public's increasing skepticism of our government AND our press.

"The People" have been complacent for far too long.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:17 PM
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6. I don't think people should trust Bush, but there was a time...
where people felt they owned the US Government. Not anymore.
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sobanos Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:22 PM
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8. Those days are over......... until we demand change.
but there was a time... where people felt they owned the US Government. Not anymore.
Posted by originalpckelly



I agree.

But, it's better that we face the reality that exists today.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:33 PM
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10. I'm with ya on this one.
It's about time people woke up and spoke out. This government we have now is not to be trusted. They have gotten away with way too much for way too long.

By the way, welcome aboard. :hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:22 PM
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7. Welcome to DU
:hi:

I disagree-the lack of connection to the government OUR government's doing is a lack of a control on it.
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sobanos Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 03:24 PM
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9. Change in our government can only occur..............
...... if enough of the people are unhappy with it and then DO something about it.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:18 PM
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13. Pots and pans in the street
I'm ready. I can't believe we have allowed it to go on this long. The juror's statement that she doesn't watch the news (yes, the current regime has been pretty hard to watch) is part of the problem. Hiding our heads won't make it go away.

Hi there and welcome to DU!:hi:

"We are the deciders. And every single day, every single one of us needs to step outside and take some action to help stop this war. Raise hell. ... We need people in the streets, banging pots and pans and demanding, 'Stop it, now!' "

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 05:36 PM
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20. What news should one watch?
That's the rub.

The fact that she doesn't read the news is far more troubling to me.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 09:54 PM
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28. .
I should have said "get" the news. I gave up watching the news election night 2000.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:41 PM
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25. but can the broadcast news be trusted
or are blogs and alternative news sources better for finding the truth.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 09:56 PM
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29. Not anymore
You have to go get your news now. Today's news is like that in Orwell's 1984--just the crap the machine wants you to see.
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:39 PM
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24. i agree
it is a great thing that the people are questioning the government and the press about the truth of matters.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-04-07 09:29 AM
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30. I'll suppose that evidence not standing up to reason and scrutiny
Edited on Fri May-04-07 09:30 AM by petgoat
includes the 9/11 Commmision Report.

Good point about it not being "our" government. Bush has been
trying his damndest to create a climate where

Government Business is None of Your Business.

Unfortunately the vast majority of Americans seem willing to
play along.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:26 PM
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23. very encouraging
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 02:54 PM
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3. thumbs up n/t
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:12 PM
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12. This is the fruit of the right wing attack on government for years...
Remember Reagan saying "government is the problem." This has been the mantra of right wingers as they strive to destroy all the great government programs that were put in place after the "free market" exploded in October 1929. This is not a good thing. Most people are not activists and not informed. It will take a generation to get these people thinking that the role of government is not just to enforce the financial interests of corporations through aggressive militarism. (Gee, isn't that fascism?)
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 08:24 PM
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27. "Gee, isn't that fascism?"
Why, yes it is rfranklin.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:30 PM
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14. Kick & Nominated
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:32 PM
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15. That is why due process requires a trial by a jury of your peers.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:42 PM
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16. Gotta kick and recommend
I can't watch the news either. These corpulent talking pustules make me want to hurl...things at my TV and I can't afford to replace it. Seems the talking heads are all overfed (or bulemic) privleged white people who think that you can still buy a loaf of bread for 59 cents. Glad to know that it's getting harder to find anyone who believes in this shit. My mom and dad (rest their souls) were a little too trusting for my taste. I think it came from their having experienced the depression and WWII. On the plus side, they recycled and were thrifty. On the down side, they tended to trust the men in office simply because they were in office and it was considered somewhat gauche to question them or their motives. Glad we're getting out of that cultural space. Even as a kid I observed Vietnam and Watergate. I have found it impossible to ever 'trust' government and politicians. Hope it just keeps spreading.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:48 PM
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17. That female prospective juror sure is oblivious
Scary, because if you try to stay uninformed, you're the kind of person the simple minded sound bites of Bushco are aimed at. She could well have some vague notion that the Iraqis caused 911.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 04:52 PM
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18. wow conspiracy nut stuff on the frontpage of the DU!
:sarcasm:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:01 PM
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21. I know I don't trust our government - who can blame um?
911 truth baby - that's all we are askin for is some 9/11 truth!!

http://www.911truth.org
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-03-07 06:25 PM
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22. Too many people in this country are "oblivious" to what's
Edited on Thu May-03-07 06:26 PM by LibDemAlways
going on. That's part of the reason the Bush Crime Family continues to operate. The other reason is that the corporate whores hide the truth from those interested enough to turn on the "nightly news" or pick up a paper.

People sense that these guys are crooks, but there's a general perception that all politicians are ethically challenged. I doubt that a majority of those who "disapprove" of the chimp could name very many specifics as to why. However, they would be happy to tell you which American Idol contestant they favor and specific reasons for their choice.

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