Girl stoned to death by family for falling in love

[villager]

Source: Daily Mail

Internet video shows 17-year-old Iraqi Kurd Dua Khalil Aswad being stoned by a group of men until she dies, all because she fell in love with a boy of a different religion

Baghdad, May 4: A 17-year-old girl has been stoned to death in Iraq because she loved a teenage boy of the wrong religion.

As a horrifying video of the stoning went out on the Internet, the British arm of Amnesty International condemned the death of Dua Khalil Aswad as an abhorrent murder and demanded that her killers be brought to justice. Reports from Iraq said a local security force witnessed the incident, but did nothing to try to stop it. Now her boyfriend is in hiding in fear for his life.

Aswad, a member of a minority Kurdish religious group called Yezidi, was condemned to death as an honour killing by other men in her family and hardline religious leaders because of her relationship with the Sunni Muslim boy.

They said she had shamed herself and her family when she failed to return home one night. Some reports suggested she had converted to Islam to be closer to her boyfriend. Aswad had taken shelter in the house of a Yezidi tribal leader in Bashika, a predominantly Kurdish town near the northern capital, Mosul.

A large crowd watched as eight or nine men stormed the house and dragged Aswad into the street. There they hurled stones at her for half an hour until she was dead. The stoning happened last month, but only came to light on Wednesday with the release of the Internet video. It is feared her death has triggered a retaliatory attack. Last week 23 Yezidi workmen were forced off a bus travelling from Mosulto Bashika by a group of Sunni gunmen and summarily shot dead.

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Gotta love that surgin' and that freedom!

[Richard D]

1. America . . .

. . . if the fundamentalists take over.

[brentspeak]

14. Uh, no

The "fundamentalists" are not likely to take over America. The subject of this article is Iraqi Kurds.

[Thor_MN]

29. Where have you been for the last 6 years?

The fundies DID take over America. Now we are taking it back.

[kestrel91316]

52. Wake up and smell the coffee. they certainly INTEND to take

over America.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Dominionists&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

[iconoclastic cat]

2. Some nice folks that have been liberated there, I tell ya. nt

[chaplainM]

3. News like this always reminds me of Ronald Reagan,

who fatuously claimed, "Religion doesn't divide people; it UNITES them."

[patrice]

4. The extremes are driving each other.

Think of all of the U.S. fervor generated by last nights characterization of the Islamo-fascist threat. Killing innocent Iraqis, or wherever's next, is the same thing as these people stoning this girl.

[azurnoir]

5. Know the meaning of never assume?

Try reading the article these people are not Islamic, sorry to disappoint you. Guess the righty propaganda is being catapulted better then I thought.

[patrice]

10. Where did I say they are Islamist?

I said I heard fear mongering against Islam last night and that inspires patriotic Americans to support killing innocent people (collateral damage) and that is the same thing as this horrifying event, no matter who was involved.

I intended "extremes" in a generic human sense, not a sectarian sense.

Apply your words about assuming to yourself and if something is ambiguous, you might start with a question, before making accusations.

[heliarc]

26. Uh...

So the Sunni gunmen who hijacked a bus and massacred 23 people in retaliation were above reproach because you are afraid of blaming these crimes on religion? The Sunni gunmen are islamic? They've committed a crime too. "These people," indeed. You should check your own fairness of assumption.

Religious misogyny, extremism and fundamentalism is at fault here whether its Muslims or a Kurdish sect.

[depakid]

6. It is feared her death has triggered a retaliatory attack

Unfortunately, it doesn't look as if it was a targeted retaliatory attack.

The men involved in this need to be removed from circulation... by whatever means necessary.

[cigsandcoffee]

7. You reckon they should be killed? A typical American attitude.

n/t

[depakid]

12. Taken out of circulation....

I'd prefer prison, but the reality is, that's not how that region works these days.

This kind of shit has got to stop- and it never will unless those responsible are held accountable for their behavior. Doesn't seem to me that's a typical American attitude-

[cigsandcoffee]

13. Killing them was clearly implied in your response.

That's just the sort of typical attitude Americans would have.

[brentspeak]

16. So, what's your "non-American" attitude on this?

:eyes:

[cigsandcoffee]

21. I don't really have one.

I had just been sort of annoyed about this exchange, and felt compelled:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2828593

[joshcryer]

27. Ahh, that does clear some things up.

I don't know what's up with the anti-American irrationality on these boards sometimes. ;)

[cigsandcoffee]

33. You'd think we were a terrible place, or something.

With the "typical" people being devoid of sense. I'm also shocked at the knee-jerk anti-Americanism from a minority here, too - it smacks of simplicity.

America is far more good than bad, and so many of the people in it - just like so many on DU - are good and decent people who just want to live right and promote goodwill. That's what a "typical American" is.

[depakid]

28. There might be a slight distinction

between policies re: traffic tickets and customs whereby women are stoned to death.... ;-)

[joshcryer]

31. Disregard for human life?

Sounds like a good enough analouge.

edit: but these guys aren't human so I'd have to agree with you there. ;)

[0rganism]

54. all too human, unfortunately

"but these guys aren't human"

See, that's one big problem right there. We keep denying the humanity of those who commit atrocities. Far from being inhuman, show me another species that engages in this kind of violence in the name of ethnic purity. Show me another species that will travel halfway across the planet to kill hundreds of thousands of its own in order to enlarge the consolidation of wealth by a handful of its local alpha males. Show me another species that kills not for food, but for some twisted sense of morality.

Got any nominees?

Sorry, the people described in this article are human too, and the sooner we stop pretending otherwise, the sooner we can honestly confront the demons of our own darker natures.

[joshcryer]

59. Just because our governments and those in power do it.

Does not make the civilians completely complicit. There were protests. Hundreds of thousands were against the War in Iraq. And today tens of millions are.

Also, I feel there's a huge difference from bombing someone from a jet and slitting someones throat. There's a disconnect there. You sociologically are not committing the same atrocity (even though it is the same or could even be worse).

So no, someone stoning a young girl is not human, they're demented.

[cigsandcoffee]

36. So killing is OK there, and running from the law is OK here?

I don't get your positions at all. What is it about "that region" which makes killing people there OK in your book?

[depakid]

41. It's pretty simple

Creating a major public hazard in order to cite someone for a minor traffic violation isn't reasonable behavior- much less responsible law enforcement policy. It does however reflect what I (and others who I talk with) see as a typically American attitude which reflects an "old west" type deal where "the cop must get his man," no matter who gets hurt or what the cost.

And in countless instances, the costs look like this:

Three years ago, a 15-year-old Chico girl took her mother's SUV without permission for a joy ride with her friends. Police were chasing her when she ran a stop sign, colliding with a van and killing Kristie Priano, a 15-year-old honor student.

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/05/13/news/columnists/riehl/21_09_415_12_05.txt

Yet in all too many jurisdictions- due to prevailing American attitudes, officers and agencies who are CLEARLY negligent, aren't held to account for their actions.

On the other hand we have a "policy" or "custom" whereby women are stoned to death (or otherwise harshly punished) for expressing their feelings- and the men who violate them aren't held to account.

My guess is the custom in the region is one of vendetta- and if that's the accountability measure, even if killing in return is what it takes to put a stop to such things- I'm OK with that.

Obviously, most of us would prefer to have secular civil authority deal with crimes like this- but considering what's been unleashed, the chances of that happening in the near future pretty well slim to none.

[superconnected]

19. I do.

They should be held accountable for murder. If it were here in the states, then they could be up for the dp in states that have that.

Nothing here indicates that these men would not do it again.

And this IS the problem. People aren't being held accountable(not meaning sentenced to death, I mean sentenced to prison at all)

Katherine Harris, George Bush, Cheney et all, all the people laying ieds in iraq, all the US soldiers killing people under the guise of God knows what, since they are on their soil, and killing them is NOT protecting them, and it's NOT keeping us free... all of these ppl, should be held accountable for their actions.

Many of their actions are murder. Even our soldiers. Wearing a uniform does not exclude people from committing murder. Ask the mislovich supporters after mislovich(sp) lost. Ask the nazis when they were on trial at nuermberg.

Because they are not going to be held accountable, their violence propagates throughout the world.

Bush doesn't need to be impeached, he needs to face criminal charges in a world court. The iraqis should demand nothing less than hanging. And those men who stoned that girl to death are murderers, and need to be on trial for that - whether it ends in their death or not.

[joshcryer]

25. Yes, they should be killed. They should be strung up.

Beaten until they're near death, then revived and healed for several weeks, and beaten again. Do this until they are so tired of being beaten that they die simply because they no longer have the will to live.

Yes, that's what these barbarians deserve.

[jahyarain]

32. agreed

and fuck ALL religions.

[cigsandcoffee]

37. I couldn't agree more. They're inhuman scum. n/t

[ohio2007]

8. Their cult is on the verge of extinction as their hatred for sunni muslims has

them killing their own. Such primitive customs.
she,falling in love with a sunni means ( as most likely is the custome ) she would have to convert to muslim and be told to disown her own family.

...its that olde tyme religion.

[Auntie Bush]

24. And all those Retards last night want us to have more religion

so we can practice our faith in our government. Tell me ...why do we have to have religion in order to have faith and values and leave honest lives?
Doesn't seem to have helped the Retards any!

[booley]

9. And you know...

the cons will see this and say "See!? This prove islam is evil and so it's ok to bomb/torture/detain them!"

Yes, i know how insane that line of reasoning is. but I've seen it before. And so this violence will be seen evidence that there needs to be even MORE violence.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

11. In fariness...

The Yezidi are not Islamic. Theirs is a far older religion. Lots of good stuff on them on Wikipedia.

[VotingVet]

18. They weren't Muslims but so what?

The nutbags on the Right are not going to let a silly thing like facts satop them from characterizing this as a Muslim-on-Muslim crime. Nor will it stop them from ignoring the even sorrier fact that the "stoners" (!?!) were Kurds, the closest thing we have to "allies" in that sad and savaged country.

[booley]

66. but to the cons...

they are all brown people.

or as one con told me "They are all animals"..so who cares if they kill each other?

[superconnected]

15. They sound like Republicans

Who got their way.

[Make7]

17. "the men of the city shall stone her to death"

 

If a man marry a wife, and afterwards hate her,

And seek occasions to put her away, laying to her charge a very ill name, and say: I took this woman to wife, and going in to her, I found her not a virgin:

Her father and mother shall take her, and shall bring with them the tokens of her virginity to the ancients of the city that are in the gate:

And the father shall say: I gave my daughter unto this man to wife: and because he hateth her,

He layeth to her charge a very ill name, so as to say: I found not thy daughter a virgin: and behold these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the ancients of the city:

And the ancients of that city shall take that man, and beat him,

Condemning him besides in a hundred sicles of silver, which he shall give to the damsel's father, because he hath defamed by a very ill name a virgin of Israel: and he shall have her to wife, and may not put her away all the days of his life.

But if what he charged her with be true, and virginity be not found in the damsel:

They shall cast her out of the doors of her father's house, and the men of the city shall stone her to death, and she shall die: because she hath done a wicked thing in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: and thou shalt take away the evil out of the midst of thee.

Deuteronomy 22:13-21

http://www.newadvent.org/bible/deu022.htm

- Make7

[superconnected]

20. So you're going after Jews now?

Cause the New Testament pretty much wipped all that out. Christians who follow the old laws aren't Christians in the Christ sense.

Something tells me progressive Christians and Jews aren't doing those things now a days. I'm not going after islam becuase the problem isn't islam. Modern islamics don't do that any more than modern Jews.

I'm not going after religions at all because this has NOTHING to do with a religion. It has to do with a bunch of sick fuck MEN who want to control women and everyone around them. They are no different than many groups of republicans here in the United States who call for the death of liberals and judges.

The world will always have these mental degenerates, but it won't stop suffering from them until they are put in aslyums(sp.)...

[patrice]

30. Thank you.

That's what I was trying to say.

The biology is all basically the same; there is no Christian Crazy, no Islam Crazy, no Yazdi Crazy. Just crazy people causing reactions in other crazy people.

[Make7]

45. Interesting interpretation.

I guess people will see whatever they wish when reading passages from religious texts.

- Make7

[SemperEadem]

61. Perhaps...

"Christians who follow the old laws aren't Christians in the Christ sense"

However, they are the ones who've got the loudest microphones, the ears of politicians, the megachurches outfitted with TV lights and a video department and have sheeple by the dozen convinced that theirs is the true faith and if they doubt, then their church has got the numbers to intimidate them into believing what they believe. Funny how they don't keep to the four gospels alone, but rummage all throughout the bible, both old and new testements, for justification for their mindset.

[nealmhughes]

22. The culprits are Yezidi, not Shia or Sunni. Yezidi are followers of the ancient

"Cult of Angels" which blends pre-Zoroastoraian beliefs into a dualistic heirarchy of "angels" with a lot of Gnostic and some Islamic belief thrown in. In a sense, it may be the oldest practiced religion still existing in an iteration, as it is pre-Zoroastoraian! The Kurds are Indo-European people who speak an Iranian branch of our I-E family tree.

A lot of people deride them as so called "devil worshipers," due to their acknowledgement of a Demiurge that created the universe and is seen by some as a deification of "Satan."

I guess that tribalism trumps what I thought was a peaceful religion. . .

[NastyDiaper]

23. Me Amerika. Me bring Freedom fix u good!

[slowry]

34. But were they vegans? n/t

[juno jones]

35. Doesn't matter what damn religion they follow

They're seriously FUCKED UP.

[Vinca]

38. I'm so happy our soldiers are giving their lives for these people.

:sarcasm:

[Name removed]

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[Forkboy]

56. that's the spirit!

[ozone_man]

40. Religion divides.

Islam is still going through what Christianity went through in the middle ages (as Sam Harris expains). Apostasy is punishable by death. We hope that changes quickly, but in the age of modern weapons, it's become even more dangerous.

But as danger goes, our Christian oriented army still rules and is able to rain down destruction anywhere in the world at a moment's notice. Religion will eventually fall by the wayside as people eventually learn to live in peace.

[happyslug]

48. And we will replace it with Treason.

You are missing the point here, Iraq is a TRIBAL COUNTRY, Your Tribe is more important than one's Country or even Religion. My Favorite Call on this was when Syria Intervened in Lebanon in the 1970s. Syria, claiming to be Moslem, Interviewed to help the Ruling Family of Syria's Long time Trading Partners, the Christians of Lebanon AGAINST the Moslems of Lebanon and The PLO.

Religion is NOT the problem, it is the division between the tribes within Iraq. Some of these tribes Identify themselves as Sunni and Shiite Moslem, others as Christians, others as various other minority religions. The issue is NOT religion but these Tribal divisions. Something unknown in the West Since the Middle ages and the rise of the Nation State. People in the West Identify themselves as "French", "Germans", "Americans" etc. That is NOT true of People in the Middle East, when one identify one self depending on one's tribe. If you betray the tribe you will be punished. Historically in the Middle East such Betrayal was viewed as "Blasphemy" (as it was in the West before the raise of the Nation State in the 1700s). In the West since the 1700 the tribe has disappeared, but the Nation Still exists. Thus when one betrays one nation it is TREASON not Blasphemy any more. The Result is the same, the person is generally dead, but we in the West can say we did not do it for RELIGION, but did it for protection of "Our Country".

In this particle case, she was a member of a Tribe that has been hostile to all the tribes in its area for at least 2500 years. For her to go outside the tribe for a mate WITHOUT APPROVAL OF HER TRIBE, was treason to the tribe. Any society when faced with Treason will punish such Treason in the most brutal way possible.

As to the West, the main reason for the disappearance of Tribes was the Catholic Position that one can NOT marry one's Cousin. The Church Adopted this policy to break up the control various families that had ruled as the Elite of the Roman Empire. This rule slowly destroyed the hold families had over its members by simply making such families broader in Scope. After several generations you had families whose pair bonds (i.e. Married Couples) whose nearest relatives WERE NO LONGER THE SAME (i.e when Cousins married each other both members in a pair bond nearest relatives were the same, i.e. the Husband;s Cousins and the Wife's Cousins were the same, in fact the Husband's Cousins were the Wife's Siblings and the Husband's siblings were the Wife''s Cousins).

My point here is the whole society of the people of Iraq is based on the Tribe. Religion is used to reinforce these tribal concepts, but it is NOT the religion that is the problem but the concept of Tribe. How do you destroy the Tribes of Iraq? That is easier to say then do. The Catholic Church took over 1000 years to do so, and at that point you saw the raise of the Middle Class that lead to the Reformation, the Age of Reason etc. The Mongols Tried, The Turks Tried, and both gave up and just accepted the tribes as they were. Unless the US wants to get into deciding who can marry whom in Iraq the US will NOT be able to break the hold of the Tribe in Iraq.

As for the Suicide Bombers, While religion is used to justify such attacks, the main reason such people volunteer for such missions is a lack of options. Most Bombers come from poor families with no prospects. Thus the idea of suicide looks like a way for such people to justify their existence. Religion is used to justify the action, but it is rare for Religion to be the decisive reason for such volunteers. In fact the first Modern Suicide Bombers were Agnostic Buddhist in Sri Lanka. The decisive issue is that the Volunteer see no other prospects for themselves given their economic situation.

Once you look into this issue with anything but a closed mine, you will find that Religion is rarely the reason for any activities, Religion is used as a excuse, but the reason is harsh economic realities.

[ozone_man]

50. Yet my comment stands that religion divides.

Once you look into this issue with anything but a closed mine, you will find that Religion is rarely the reason for any activities, Religion is used as a excuse, but the reason is harsh economic realities.

Note that I don't say that religion is the only cause for strife, but it is often a significant component. Here's a good compilation of struggles going on around the world where religion is a significant component a'ong with economic, racial and ethnic reasons. I don't think you can look at the Irish conflict between Protestants and Catholics and say that it is not a major factor. Youngsters are brought up (before they can reason for themselves) to be a Catholic child or a protestant child, not just a child, so are taught to hate at an early age, to be intolerant of other's with differing religions. This is a form of child abuse. Proseltyzation. Children don't hate until they are taught to by parents, the church, etc. let them grow as children and make religious decisions when they are intellectually capable of processing it.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm

The role of religion in civil unrest and war:

Often, the media does not identify the precise causes of some of the conflicts around the world. Clashes are frequently described as being ethnic in origin, even though religion may have been a main cause.

The true causes of unrest are sometimes difficult to determine. Frequently, there are a mixture of political alliances, economic differences, ethnic feuds, religious differences and others: 1
bullet In Northern Ireland, "the troubles" are partly rooted in Catholic/Protestant differences, partly in political allegiances, and probably partly in hatreds that go back so far that the exact reason is lost in the mists of time.
bullet The Rwanda genocide was mainly between the Hutu majority and the Tutsi minority. The religious split in the country (75% Christian, 25% indigenous) appears to not have been a significant factor.
bullet The war in Bosnia-Herzegovina was among three faith groups, (Muslim, Roman Catholic, and Serbian Orthodox).
bullet The horrendous civil war in Sudan has a significant religious component. But inter-tribal warfare, racial and language conflicts are also involved.

A group of world religious leaders from the Buddhist, Protestant, Catholic and Orthodox Christian, Jewish, Muslim and many other faiths met in Geneva Switzerland during 1999-OCT. They issued a document, The Geneva Spiritual Appeal, asking political and religious leaders and organizations to ensure that religions are not used to justify violence in the future. Delegates believed that that then-current 56 conflicts have religious elements.

Current conflicts and wars:

It is important to realize that most of the world's current "hot spots" have a complex interaction of economic, racial, ethnic, religious, and other factors. We list below some conflicts which have as their base at least some degree of religious intolerance:

(list of current conflicts)

I think if you look at where most of the hot spots are, as Sam Harris points out, they tend to form an outline of the borders of Islam. It's still a medieval religion. Christianity has gone through that phase 500 to 1,000 years ago, so has moderated to an extent. There are no Christian suicide bombers, but still plenty of Christians who hate gays based on what the Bible says. Religion perpetuates this bigotry. Ultimately (I hope) lifting the world out of ignorance and poverty will see at the same time the end of religion, which thrives on ignorance and poverty. It's a tall order, but one that we have to work toward to ever have a hope of world peace. Religion divides.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

42. Yeah...Iraq is a better place without Saddam.

:eyes:

[Miss Chybil]

43. Goes to show what happens when everybody is the same color.

Human beings can always find a reason to hate. These people are pigs and I don't think we should be dying to "liberate" the bastards.

But... that's just my opinion. I don't "hate" them, or anything...

:mad:

[mondo obscurius]

44. Interesting. The yezidi

Are a sect with ancient pre-islamic roots considered by some christians, muslims, and even some modern "satanists" to be of a demonic character. I suppose this makes them easy scapegoats and targets for this kind of barbarism. No matter which way you cut it though, it's still balogna - an excuse for mob rule. These thugs could just as easily have been white supremicists or christian fundie dominionists going after a woman's clinic right here in god's own u.s. of a. Dress it up any way you want, it's all the same dogma of hate.

*sigh*

Isn't it time for humanity to let go of religion and find something better to do???

:shrug:

[ohio2007]

46. I find it interesting that the British arm of Amnesty International

went after this small cult for "honor killing" when the practice of "honor killing" is a widely accepted practice by another religion with a much greater following.
If the British arm of Amnesty International went after the larger group......
I think they would have received death threatsor get an unislamic label attached to themselves.

Well, this story will perculate through the old dinosaur media and reach a target audience that won't care unless it is reported the boy was stoned to death imo.


Guess it's only an attempt to poke a few sticks into a subdued hornets nest we know as "the Kurdish northern provinces" ?

[AliceWonderland]

47. That's not correct, AI speaks out on this issue -- what are you referring to?

See here, for example, where AI talks about honor killings and human rights in Pakistan:

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/engASA330181999

If your interest is to advance the cause of human rights -- and I'm sure it is -- the types of specific cases in the link above do more to explain the problem.

[ohio2007]

55. 1 September 1999 article?

The world has changed.

[LeftishBrit]

64. Here's an article about Pakistan from 2005

It isn't just about honour killings, but mentions them among other abuses.

http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/pak-summary-eng

[LeftishBrit]

63. No; Amnesty International attacks the practice of 'honour killings' everywhere

Their biggest focus has probably been Pakistan; but they have also campaigned with regard to Iran, Jordan, Albania, Turkey, and many other countries where this horrible practice takes place. They don't discriminate by nationality or religion.

[ohio2007]

65. but they always "beat the rap" in "a court of law"

until a politician is whacked.

.... Mr Sarwar appeared relaxed and calm when he told a television channel that he had carried out God’s order to kill women who sinned. “I have no regrets. I just obeyed Allah’s commandment,” he said, adding that Islam did not allow women to hold positions of leadership. “I will kill all those women who do not follow the right path, if I am freed again,” he said.

“He is basically a fanatic,” Raja Basharat, the Punjab Law Minister, said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1414137.ece

oh wait, my bad, this story isn't honor killing of a female but rather " a fanatic" .
this serial killer escaped justice for the previous 12 women he legally killed.


Zil-e-Human Usman Zil-e-Huma Usman

Certain parts of Pakistan he will be pardoned for his alleged sectarian crime.


...
snip
Sarwar, a 40-year-old father of nine, showed no emotion today as the judge at Gujranwala’s anti-terrorism court sentenced him to death on two counts – one for the murder of Mrs Usman and the other for spreading terrorism.

snip
...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1542769.ece

Will justice be done ?
of course, inshalla ;)

[LeftishBrit]

74. This has nothing to do with any bias by Amnesty International..

Amnesty International have no role in the government of Pakistan. (It would no doubt be much better if they did.) However, as long as the government of Pakistan act as they do, Amnesty International does and will continue to criticize them severely and to campaign for human rights there.

[lligrd]

49. Saddam Would Never Have Allowed This

But now they have freedoms. At least the men do. And aren't the Kurds the ones Bush claimed to be so bent on protecting by ridding them of Saddam?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

51. Isn't this in the Kurdish are?

Saddam didn't have control over that area from 1991 on.

[yurbud]

53. we should invade her country and kill hundreds of thousands of those people to teach them the value

of human life.

Oh wait, we already did that to Iraq.

I thought this was one of those "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran" cheerleading stories.

[Fierce]

57. That poor girl.

Rest in peace, Du'a.

[joshcryer]

58. The video is the most dispicible thing I have ever seen.

I read that 23 of the stoners were later executed, though, which makes me feel better.

[ohio2007]

60. got a link to that 'stoner' spin?

I doubt justice was served like that.

[joshcryer]

67. It was secterian violence, though.

Here's the link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6586825.stm

Would've been nice if her family got retribution (though it is possible the Sunni's responsible were her boyfriends family).

[anotherdrew]

72. I've been fortunate to be able to refuse to see it. I won't watch it

I've reached my limit, I'm not watching some things, period. I don't need to see it. at least that's how I feel now. it seems like some kind of damnable snuff-film. those shits filming it weren't filming it to show the world what terrible things were happening, they filmed it because they thought it was cool or some such shit.

[orpupilofnature57]

62. Girl stabbed to death because family fell in love with killers money ,

A large crowd watched for 2yrs, as a man who's people had been persecuted for the color of their skin, virtually Beat an obvious guilty plea ,because of media and historic outrage.

[mitchum]

68. Ain't God great!

[dysfunctional press]

69. i didn't think that there was even a lethal level of toxicity possible with marijuana...

stoned to death...

now THAT'S some good weed.

[anotherdrew]

71. yeah man, but it's actually very heavy... n/t

[anotherdrew]

70. In my readings about the Yezidi, I never thought they would be capable of an act like this

but, this looks more like a regional social issue than a general religious issue.

and what it comes down to, as far as I can tell... men especially need to be strictly controlled and their behavior limited by strong socially enforced limitations, learned and internalized from day one. These existing social conceptions are unacceptable and I would like to go on record as opposing them, just like female genital mutilation, there are simply limits on what "culture" should be let do to a person.

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73. I read a biography about a Saudi princess once

Similar stories surface from time to time.

If this country is going to stick its nose in for that purpose, I'm not entirely unsympathetic, but you know that will never be the motive, or we would have attacked the Saudis long ago. I recall they were going to stone a woman to death in Northern Nigeria and wondered that the world did not immediately invade that country - what barbarity. Yet I believe it worked out somehow, and the woman was saved.