Latest Chinese missile to target US carriers: report

[Roland99]

Source: AFP via RawStory

China plans to equip its upcoming missiles with infrared technology to give them the ability to hit US warships in Asia, a Japanese newspaper said Wednesday.

The upgrade is part of preparations for a potential conflict over Taiwan, which China considers part of its territory and which has a security pact with the United States, the Sankei Shimbun said.

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The upgraded Dongfeng would discourage the United States or Japan from sending in their warships equipped with the Aegis technology designed to shoot down incoming missiles, the newspaper said.

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Western analysts have also speculated that China is also developing a next-generation long-range Dongfeng-41 capable of hitting the US mainland.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Latest_Chinese_missile_to_target_US_05162007.html

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Perhaps Jack Bauer's Dad on Fox's "24" had the right idea: leave the US for China. They will be THE world power within a generation.

[lovuian]

1. And Open trade made them rich and powerful

and they sent their children here and educated them at our universities and now they are technologically entering the space race

thanks to the Bush's Nixon and Reagan

Corporations have played right into their hands

[pampango]

35. Better for us if a billion Chinese had remained poor and weak

like they were until the 1980's?

Are you arguing that open trade should be avoided in Africa and the Middle East so that they do not become rich and powerful or that what is good for "them" is not good for "us"?

I hope that a progressive foreign policy does not center on keeping the Third World poor, so that they do not compete with us ecomically. Ahh, for the good ol' days when the poor in China were what your mother lectured you about to get you to finish the food on your plate.

[xchrom]

2. china is taking notes on our military in iraq to boot.

we've exposed a lot of interesting information.

the question really is -- will china spend on it's military what we spend?

[hogwyld]

4. They don't have to spend the same

It's a LOT cheaper to steal a technology than it is to develop one. Also, Iraq shows that you don't need a gold plated military to cripple another one.

[AndyA]

3. Nice.

Keep buying Toyotas, Nissans, and Mitsubishis, America.

Keep shopping at Wal-Mart.

Support these foreign countries so they can come over here and bomb us to oblivion someday.

Shameful. When will Americans learn they must put THIS COUNTRY FIRST? :nuke:

[hogwyld]

5. Ummm, the examples you have

Are made in both America, and Japan, our best ally in Asia.

[AndyA]

6. You are overlooking the obvious:

They are foreign corporations. I don't give a shit where the cars are made, the profits ultimately go overseas and support foreign governments.

And Japan may be an ally NOW, but that can change. Saddam was once a friend as well, and don't forget about Pearl Harbor.

Today's friend is tomorrow's foe - it's happened time and time again, yet we never seem to learn.

[muriel_volestrangler]

7. Don't worry, I'm working hard to tear down your country from inside DU

because you can't trust any foreigners, can you? In fact, with one of the 3 DU admins being British, DU itself is probably an elaborate plot to destabilize the American government, with its excellent record on human rights. Oh, hang on, its only the rights of Americans you should be concerned with.

Remember: "My country, right or wrong" is the only sensible thing to say, isn't it? That's what you have learned, eh?

[AndyA]

11. Don't be ridiculous.

Any American of average intelligence can figure out that we must have well paying jobs here to support our economy.

Americans want good jobs with benefits, yet they don't support their fellow Americans by buying American goods whenever they can.

The open trade and world economy is not feasible as long as the playing field is not even. Look at how our items are taxed in other countries, and then look at how foreign goods from those same countries are treated here.

It is not equal, it is not fair.

Our human rights record may not be perfect, but it beats the hell out of a lot of other countries.

The rest of your post is just plain ridiculous.

[muriel_volestrangler]

17. But you said you can't trust me

and that goes for all the other damn non-Americans in the world. Today's friend is tomorrow's foe, remember. Your only guarantee of friendship from anyone is American citizenship. America First, always. Everyone else is dangerous. You can't trust those Canadians, either. Better chuck the UN out of New York. Remember Pearl Harbor. And the War of 1812.

[AndyA]

22. Just ask any one of the 1 in 6 people who have lost American manufacturing

jobs in the last 6 years how they feel about buying American.

I think you're carrying what I said a bit to far, but yes, as Americans, I do think it is up to us to put OUR COUNTRY FIRST over other countries.

And I would think that ANY American citizen should pledge allegiance to America above all others, and do what they can to support their fellow American workers.

Obviously you don't see it that way, but you might when you find your job is gone forever overseas and you can no longer support yourself.

At any rate, we'll have to agree to disagree since it appears futile to continue this further.

[muriel_volestrangler]

23. You seem to think this is about jobs now - it's about people bombing the USA

you said so in post #3. But you think I'm carrying what you said a bit far? You don't think that saying buying any foreign products is helping tomorrow's bombers might have been carrying things a bit too far?

[AndyA]

24. Have you read the title of this thread?

Latest Chinese missile to target US carriers: report

China plans to equip its upcoming missiles with infrared technology to give them the ability to hit US warships in Asia, a Japanese newspaper said Wednesday.

What American company is one of China's largest customers? Wal-Mart.

What is the largest retailer in America? Wal-Mart.

Americans buy stuff at Wal-Mart, that Wal-Mart bought from companies in China. China's economy is doing pretty well right now due in large part to American purchases of Chinese goods.

In very simplistic terms, Americans are funding Chinese missiles that are designed to target US Carriers.

Americans should be proud to support American companies, and take satisfaction in knowing they are not contributing to another American losing his/her job.

Yes, our government is largely to blame for allowing all this shit to happen in the first place, and changes must be made on that level as well, but personally, as an American citizen, I'd prefer to put AMERICA FIRST. And that means helping other AMERICANS keep their jobs at AMERICAN COMPANIES by buying AMERICAN GOODS whenever possible.

[muriel_volestrangler]

27. And Toyota, Nissan and Mitsubishi?

You said buying their products funded bombs to be used against the USA. You urged us to remember Pearl Harbor. "Today's friends are tomorrow's foes". You're not urging a boycott of just China. You're saying buying anything foreign is funding armaments, and Japan cannot be trusted.

[AndyA]

30. We don't know what those countries are going to do in the future, do we?

So why not support America, have a strong America, with good employment, health care for all, and be financially sound so we are prepared to protect ourselves in the future if need be.

Look back on the people and countries who were once our friends and later became enemies. It has happened before, it could happen again. No one knows for sure.

I think it's best to be patriotic, buy American and suppport America. No, we're not perfect, but it's better than supporting a foreign country.

[Doremus]

19. I understand what you're saying but you used a very weak example.

You can hardly hold up Detroit automakers as a sterling example of American workmanship. The mere thought is to laugh.

Other products, other industries, fine. I buy as many American products as I can. It isn't easy either because they are getting as scarce as hen's teeth. In that regard, I completely agree that it's way past time for another "Buy American" campaign. Considering who's in office I think you have a better chance of seeing God though.

[heliarc]

10. "American" companies are off-shore half the time.

Private equity firms are generally off-shore, and have no allegiance to any nation whatsoever. Pearl Harbor???? What? Our relationship with Japan now has nothing to do with our relationship in 1945. Japan is an incredibly stable, organized and free democratic state now. Plus, we firebombed and razed half of the whole country in 45... That if anything is a reason for China to develop a weapons system that protects the coast!

[parkia00]

12. Ban them unAmerican foreigners!!!

How about banning foreign companies from setting up shop in the US? That would be good eh? How about companies that are owned partially by foreigners? Should foreign companies be banned from selling their products in the US? How about agricultural products? Or fish caught in foreign seas by a foreign registered fishing trawler with a foreign crew? How about tourists? Oh heck it's simply easier to close our borders! Then we don't have to worry about Americans going overseas and foreigners coming here to taint our waters. We will all be safe in our little well.:hide:

Seriously I do not expect such xenophobic rhetoric here on DU. It's something I would expect more in freeperland. I was somewhat shocked.

[AndyA]

14. You are putting a lot of your own interpretation into what I said.

Perhaps you should have your meds adjusted.

[muriel_volestrangler]

18. Perhaps you shouldn't insult DUers

Remember Pearl Harbor.

[AndyA]

21. I was just returning the favor. n/m

:eyes:

[IA_Seth]

28. Don't forget about Pearl Harbor?!

Let me add, don't forget the Boston Tea Party, the Trail of Tears, or the battle of Little Bighorn!

Geez.

[heliarc]

8. Well,...

This post discusses a weapons system that will protect the coastline... I'm not so sure that it makes a lot of sense to accuse China of an imperialism that includes attacking and occupying the United States. Haven't we proved by parading our warships through the Gulf and by invading countries that people of other countries need an effective deterrent to our repeating the practice on them? Last I checked, car companies like Daimler Chrysler were getting purchased by big off-shore private equity firms... Nothing's an "American company" anymore. So "buying American" is a crock of baloney. Those companies don't pay their share in US taxes, they don't employ Americans anymore, and they gamble their earnings away in order for CEO's to run off stinking rich. Our real enemies aren't abroad. They are born of good old American corporate greed.

[NashVegas]

9. Maybe When American CEOs Put Americans First?

It was America's capitalists who wanted the Chinese market open to their products, and wanted to tap into the cheap labor and resources China offered.

How stupid does anyone think China is? They've been through this before - read up on the Opium Wars and the Boxer rebellion sometime.

We have woken the sleeping giant, now we, the American people, must pay the price of handing our Democracy over to corporate capitalists and technocrats.

[treestar]

15. In modern times you can't really expect each country to be

economically sealed, that wouldn't be good for any country.

[AndyA]

16. Of course it wouldn't.

But Harley Davidson can't sell motorcycles in India because of the cost India puts on them, it makes them completely unobtainable to most.

Yet we'll ship out our jobs to India, and allow imports from other countries to come into the United States with little fuss. Hell, we'll even ship in poisonous food to kill our pets!

I'm just saying that the playing field needs to be a bit more even, and China is suspected of manipulating the value of its currency to keep its goods more affordable, while making ours unaffordable. We just need to have the same opportunities as we give other countries.

[Megahurtz]

26. "We (Americans) just need to have the same opportunities

as we give other countries".

I totally agree and I've been angry about this for awhile now.
I guess no one else on this thread really gets it. :(

[treestar]

31. We have five percent of the population and we use 36% of the

resources of this planet.

Really, we look like shit whining that someone else is getting a break, somewhere, sometime.

[Chico Man]

33. Speaking of Harley Davidsons..

We do sell lots of those in Japan. And many other countries.

[ckramer]

36. Capitalists know this

Profit without border!

[treestar]

13. The military industrial complex begins salivating

Now this threat can be made viable. :scared:

[MnFats]

20. well, more to the point: If somebody has the ability to destroy our carriers..

...we're pretty much fucked as a military power in the world.
...a carrier group is the biggest and most efficient death-delivery system devised by man.
....without ours, nations will thumb their noses at us.

i say this as a guy who's pretty much a peacenik.

[Vidar]

25. Can't say I blame them. We are the major threat to world peace.

[Roland99]

32. Not bad for being only 231 years old.

[mediawatch]

29. lovely

just F... lovely

[wickerwoman]

34. And the source is...

a Japanese newspaper... and of course, Japan doesn't have anything to gain from stirring up shit between China and the U.S.

I'd say this wins the prize for bullshit headline of the day. It would be equally accurate (and misleading) to say "U.S. missles target Paraguay!"