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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 02:04 AM
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20 Killed In Gunbattles In North Mexico
Source: Associated Press

20 Killed In Gunbattles In North Mexico

HERMOSILLO, Mexico, May. 17, 2007

(AP) Police killed 15 armed assailants in a fierce gunbattle just south
of the Arizona border on Wednesday after tracking a group of gunmen
who killed five policemen into the nearby hills.

About 40 assailants, whose tactics and weaponry resembled those of
Mexico's powerful drug gangs, drove into the town of Cananea, 20 miles
south of the U.S. border, in up to 15 vehicles and seized four policemen
in two patrol cars, Sonora state police said in a statement.

The bullet-riddled bodies of the four, along with 50 spent cartridges,
were found on the side of a road hours later, the statement said.

Sonora state Gov. Eduardo Bours said a total of five policeman were
killed in the day's fighting, but did not specify how the fifth officer
died.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/17/ap/world/main2820027.shtml
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 06:52 AM
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1. The Scary Brady Bunch says pass laws banning all firearms and such violent crime would stop. n/t
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:13 AM
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2. In Mexico, drugs and guns go together like peas and carrots
"armed assailants" eh?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:13 AM
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3. Erm, well, this happened in Mexico, and it's highly likely that
drugs and payola were involved.

I don't think the application of US gun laws or lack thereof applies in this case.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:59 PM
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12. Mexico working with U.S. to halt border gun flows
Source: Reuters

Mexico working with U.S. to halt border gun flows
17 May 2007 20:05:03 GMT
Source: Reuters

MEXICO CITY, May 17 (Reuters) - Mexico and U.S. law enforcement
agencies are setting up an intelligence network to stop Mexicans
buying guns in the United States and bringing them south of the
border to use in a vicious drug war.

Public Security Minister Genaro Garcia said on Thursday that Mexico
was in talks with the U.S. Border Patrol, the FBI, the DEA and the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to put the brakes on guns
entering Mexico.

Most of the often high-powered guns used by drug traffickers in
Mexico come from the United States where it is easier to buy them,
Garcia said.

In Mexico, it is difficult to buy a gun legally, although illegal sales
are widespread.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N17350993.htm
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 04:36 PM
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14. Mexico is exporting drugs and importing firearms. Which country has a trade surplus? nt
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 09:23 AM
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4. Way to go, Bush!
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:33 PM
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15. Huh?
I despise bush as much as the next guy, but I don't see how he had anything to do with this. Am I missing something?
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:17 AM
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5. If we stopped our dumbass prohibition of marijuana
and taxed it there would be a huge drop in drug trafficing accross the border. Then they could divert all the wasted money phibiting weed to hard drugs like cocaine and heroin. Banning guns will not work ever.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:31 AM
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7. Agree with you re: the War on Non-Approved Herbs...
If we stopped our dumbass prohibition of marijuana and taxed it there would be a huge drop in drug trafficing accross the border. Then they could divert all the wasted money phibiting weed to hard drugs like cocaine and heroin.

Exactly.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 12:13 PM
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10. How much tax would the govt impose on it?
People will say they are paying to much for it and then people would start to complain as they do in Canada about the quality being "regulated" by the government agency.
LOL

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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 03:46 PM
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11. Well......
The average for an eighth of an ounce of high quality weed runs between $50 and $60. It could be mass produced like tobacco and alcohol are for relatively cheap, then they could sell it by the gram even. in Amsterdam a gram of Cannabis Cup winner is about $10-$15 dollars. But in America we have much more farm land and could grow it for much less, and it has been shown that the higher the grade, the less you have to smoke and therefor any "harms" are lessened. But if taxed and sold for around $30 an eighth for high grade and les for swag, the drug dealers couldnt sell it for less and make any type of product. Go to this link for info on Nevadas proposition, which has been voted on twice, this last time defeated only 54-46%.

http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/

Play the 7 question in 90 seconds thing, explains it much better than I can here.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 04:01 PM
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13. There already is a federal tax on it
$50 per ounce.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 10:48 AM
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6. Again, Mexico takes casualties in America's war on drugs...
...we love.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:59 AM
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9. There is more to this story than what is being reported
Living along the Arizona/Mexico border, having traveled through Agua Priet and Cananea and ranching family members who deal each day with drug runners crossing their mountainous ranch, and all to close to their home, we all realize that this is not the everyday Mexican druglord battle.

Shortly after this occurred the local Tucson news reported this. Many of our local newcasters are of Mexican heritage and have families and friends within these areas. Their report stated that the armed gunmen were dressed in gear and driving vehicles of Mexicans who had been trained in the United States, Georgia, to deal with drugs, the drug cartels, terrorists, etc., and work with their US counterparts.

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-17-07 11:55 AM
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8. That is just in Sonora...
it is really heating up in Michocan. Government officials are getting assassinated in broad daylight. Heads are found on soccer fields. It is spilling on to the US border towns. We are starting to have events as far north as Houston, Texas that can be connected to Neuva Laredo, Tamaulipas.
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 01:52 AM
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16. No need for a border fence though, right? nt
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