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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:47 PM
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Silent Justice Thomas: Not a word spoken (68 hours in court)
Source: AP

WASHINGTON - Justice Clarence Thomas sat through 68 hours of oral arguments in the Supreme Court's current term without uttering a word.



That's saying something — or not — even for the taciturn justice.

In nearly 16 years on the court, Thomas typically has asked questions a couple of times a term.

He memorably spoke up four years ago in cases involving cross burning and affirmative action, the court's only black justice in the unusual role of putting his race on display through questions to lawyers.

But the last time Thomas asked a question in court was Feb. 22, 2006, in a death penalty case out of South Carolina. A unanimous court eventually broadened the ability of death-penalty defendants to blame someone else for the crime.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070518/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_taciturn_thomas



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ncteechur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:49 PM
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1. Gee, how about because he is as DUMB AS A FENCE POST!!!
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:53 PM
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2. no he isn't
The man is a lot of things but dumb is not one of them.
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dsa Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:56 PM
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3. sometimes it's smarter to keep your mouth shut n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:03 PM
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14. I have to agree with you, in a world of talking heads who think everyone
wants to hear their voice all the time, the art of listening is dying. If the questions you have in your mind are being asked by other people why waste other peoples time?

I work with way too many people who talk just out of love of hearing themselves speak. What they say has no relevance to the meetings they are in, they waste everyone else's time and their own, and other people let them. Do you know why? Because most of the other people want to do the same thing, that is why they let them.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:11 AM
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31. Hmmm, "RUBBER STAMP" comes to mind...
Slappy Thomas won't even take a tinkle without asking Rove's permission.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:44 PM
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39. he may not be as dumb as *
Edited on Sat May-19-07 06:47 PM by noiretblu
but i don't think there's any evidence that he's an intellectual giant either. if he was remotely intelligent, i don't think he would use the race-card (again) as an explanation for his "lack of curiosity." he claims he doesn't talk much because he's afraid he might start speaking gullah :eyes:
remember his "high-tech" lynching comment? thomas is comfortable playing the race card to *color* criticism of his mediocrity as "racist." i don't buy his act.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:13 PM
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36. dumb as a post
Edited on Sat May-19-07 06:13 PM by noiretblu
and unqualified to serve on the court. his appointment was a slap in the face to the memory of thurgood marshall, and to african-americans in general. he's always been a BFEE stooge...and he still is.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:14 AM
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41. A stooge for the NeoCons
Put there by Specter et al.

He will always be "long dong silver"
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 07:58 PM
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4. Better to be silent and thought the fool then to speak...
and remove any possible doubt.
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loves_dulcinea Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 10:47 AM
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32. he's afraid
his gullah accent will dribble from his lips in public. really sad.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:16 PM
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5. You mean he didn't ask......
"who put the pubic hair on my Coke can?"
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:27 PM
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6. When you have all the answers figured out ahead of time

you don't need to ask any questions
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:38 PM
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9. he is Scalia's poodle
it's assumed whatever Scalia thinks, so thinketh Clarence
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:28 PM
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7. Seems to me asking questions is an important
part of his job. Sitting there like a bump on a log, collecting a paycheck, and then consistently voting with the reichwingers makes him a worthless tool IMO.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:15 AM
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27. I agree with you. He's not doing his job. He's only a stooge for the right-wing.
Our entire government has been corrupted by these incompetent stooges.

Republicans, because of their greed and corruption, are unable to govern.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:29 PM
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8. He is dumb as a bag of shit...fuck him and the worm he rides on
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:42 PM
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10. He isn't and never was qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice n/t
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:44 PM
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11. What a smear!!
Surely the man's nearly 10 months on the Federal Appeal Circuit prior to his appointment to SCOTUS prepared him for far more than Yahoo would have us believe.

Pshaw!

Actually these Thomas pieces come every five years -- this one is mild compared to another one I read 10 years ago where he didn't ask a SINGLE question for an entire sitting session!

He's getting better...it's that time on Appeals I reckon...it finally took.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:49 PM
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12. ANybody check to see if he was awake?
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 08:59 PM
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13. or alive?
what if he's been dead and stuffed? How would we know?
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phillysuse Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:07 PM
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15. Show him a pornographic film
That will tell you if he is alive.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:24 PM
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19. Funny you say that because...
On the several times I've gone to the Supreme Court to watch oral arguments, Thomas was either slumped over sleeping, nodding in/out of consciousness, or extremely bored.

I commented to my wife something to the effect of "Weekend at Bernie's" meets the Supreme Court.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:18 PM
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21. Poke him with a stick. See if he moves. nt
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:45 AM
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24. Use a electric prod
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:09 PM
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16. K&R for SCALIA's-BITCH!!1
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:12 PM
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17. I think there are real similarities with incurious George
In asking questions one indicates an active and participating mind. Both are smart enough to know the questions they would bring forth would show minds as inflexible as rocks, only dumber.
Neither of them want all doubt removed about their lack of mental agility.
Neither of them really care, anyway, and it's not worth wading into risky waters.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:13 PM
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18. He's nothing but a damn spear-carrier
n.
1. A minor member of an operatic or dramatic cast, usually having no speaking part.
2. One whose presence or performance has little effect on an occurrence, group, or organization.

Last I heard, his writing was a little anemic, too.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:47 PM
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20. I believed Dr. Anita Hill. Other than that, I believe that man is a cipher. nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:40 PM
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22. his written opinions in Supreme Court cases are embarrassingly sophomoric
I can't believe that the man has reams of law clerks to help him write his legal opinions, and tell him what actually transpired in Court while he was dozing, but still puts together sentences like he never got past Reading Rainbow.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:10 AM
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26. An article recently creates the impression that Thomas creates the final opinions
Edited on Sat May-19-07 08:11 AM by LiberalFighter
Consider a criminal case argued during Justice Thomas's first week. It concerned a thief's effort to get out of a Louisiana mental institution and the state's desire to keep him there. Eight justices voted to side with the thief. Justice Thomas dissented, arguing that although it "may make eminent sense as a policy matter" to let the criminal out of the mental institution, nothing in the Constitution required "the states to conform to the policy preferences of federal judges."

After he sent his dissenting opinion to the other justices, as is custom, Justices Rehnquist, Scalia and Kennedy changed their votes. The case ended up 5-4.

Justice Thomas's dissents persuaded Justice Scalia to change his mind several times that year. Even in Hudson v. McMillan, the case that prompted the New York Times to infamously label Justice Thomas the "youngest, cruelest justice," he was again, initially, the lone dissenter. Justice Scalia changed his vote after he read Justice Thomas's dissent, which said a prison inmate beaten by guards had several options for redress--but not under the Eighth Amendment's prohibition of "cruel and unusual punishment."


You think she is trying to rewrite history about the scumbag?

Source: The Truth About Clarence Thomas: He's an independent voice, not a Scalia lackey.

By Jan Crawford Greenburg
Wall Street Journal
January 28, 2007

She is a FEDERALIST SOCIETY member.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:25 AM
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23. k&r
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 07:52 AM
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25. Thomas's handlers lied about his past in Senate hearings
The background portrayed in interviews with family and friends was a stark contrast to previously manufactured tales about his beginnings as told during his confirmation hearings, Merida said.

Thomas' public biography portrayed a poverty-stricken youth who pulled himself out of Pin Point through education and hard work. But he never had much connection with his childhood home after moving to Savannah as a young boy. The authors found that Thomas was raised in a middle-class home with a much more affluent lifestyle than most of his peers.

"Supreme Discomfort" also contains quotes from Thomas' childhood friends who question many of the frequently told stories about Thomas' background and point out his refusal to visit his hometown - including family members - since joining the court.


Source: Authors find Clarence Thomas puzzling
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 08:52 AM
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28. Anyone Doubt?
Edited on Sat May-19-07 09:06 AM by douglas9
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:01 AM
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29. The word "sinecure" springs to mind.
Yes, listening is deeply underappreciated, although as I understand it, presenting before the SCOTUS is supposed to be a Socratic sort thing. Just because pundits have logorrhea doesn't mean that Justices are better if they keep their mouths shut.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 09:05 AM
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30. Thomas' sole contribution
to the Supreme Court is pointing to Scalia and uttering: "What he said." And THIS is the man who replaced the our national treasure, Thurgood Marshall.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:18 PM
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37. a stooge in a cynical race-card ploy
Edited on Sat May-19-07 06:50 PM by noiretblu
typical of re:puke: politicians. i remember when he embarrassed himself by whining about not being accepted by the black community because he was conservative at an NAACP event. thomas was and is an embarrassment.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:14 AM
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33. They're called oral arguments for a reason.
They're supposed to involve speaking and the asking and answering of questions.

While I do not think that Thomas is an idiot, I do not think he's performing his duty of a Supreme Court justice competently. How is it possible that he has not had one single question to ask any of the attorneys in cases brought before the Supreme Court in OVER A YEAR?

Listening is one thing, and it's good to a point, but how can one not engage in a discussion in over a year? Also, how can one be competent to write (or direct his clerks to write) the majority opinion on a case if he never even asked a question of the attorneys?

It's ridiculous, frankly.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:36 AM
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34. Paging Long Dong Silver . . .
Was he even awake?
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 11:43 AM
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35. Questions
People ask questions to clarify their thinking so they can make a good decision.

Thomas knows what his decision will be before the arguments. Why exert the effort to ask questions?
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:20 PM
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38. he nods off a lot while seated. Maybe he is a junkie.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-19-07 06:48 PM
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40. And maybe it's good thing Supreme Court Justices wear those big blousy robes n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:19 AM
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42. he is like Bush
not qualified to be where he is.
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