Three Bodies Found -- May Be Missing Soldiers

[babylonsister]

Source: VOI

Three Bodies Found -- May Be Missing Soldiers
No US Military Confirmation; Iraqi Police Say Bodies Recovered in Two Locations
Posted 3 hr. 8 min. ago



The search for the soldiers missing since an ambush in Mahmoudiya twelve days ago faced a troubling development on Wednesday, with reports emerging that at least one body, though possibly three, have been retrieved from rivers in Babel province.

Multiple media outlets have confirmed through US military and Iraqi police sources that one body found Wednesday in the Euphrates river, reportedly with Western features and wearing US-issue military pants, has been turned over to US authorities.

The independent Iraqi news agency VOI is reporting that Iraqi police forces in Babel province have found two more bodies near al-Furat river in al-Musayab region, 50 km northwest of Hilla.

"Two bodies in U.S. uniform were found by Babel police forces near al-Furat river. They bore signs of torture," a police source, who asked not to be named, told VOI.

"The police handed the bodies to the U.S. army and cordoned off the area," he also said. No comment was available from the U.S. army on the incident.

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[hippiechick]

1. I'm sorry but ...

... if they've only found the bodies, there's really no way to know specifically who abducted and killed them. Coulda been an inside job to ratchet up the tension level.

Coulda. :tinfoilhat:

[liberalnurse]

4. They were NEVER abducted....

They were captured by the "enemy" and killed. We do not honor the Geneva Convention so why should the Iraqi people?

Did we not "Capture" Saddam?....or, Did we "Abduct" him?


We can not follow in the footsteps of the misleading media.
:banghead:

[hippiechick]

5. semantics ...

They were "disappeared", then, if it makes you feel better.

My point was, that by not seeing who had them, there is really no way to confirm that it was the Iraqi's, al Queda, or the Pillsbury Dough Boy that did it.

[liberalnurse]

8. I understand you point.....

I always did........the media semantics are grounded in propaganda...that was my point.:smoke:

[krkaufman]

27. Nice to see we can argue about nothing, eh?

[hippiechick]

35. ... wouldn't be DU if we didn't ..

:hi:

[krkaufman]

36. Chuckle. Ootay Uetray. n/t

[saigon68]

32. So true and they died for nothing

and the process of kicking in every door, throwing old women to the ground and screaming obscenities as jack booted helmeted 'rescuers" were trashing the neighborhood, recruited a few more "insurgents" to the other side bent on revenge

thanks petraus you MORAN

[Renew Deal]

18. wow

Fuckin nuts.

[Virginia Dare]

20. They can blame it on al-qaeda, without any factual evidence..

and the media will repeat it like gospel. What an ugly, ugly mess they have our soldiers in over there. It's impossible to know who is actually friend and who is foe. :(

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[Toots]

29. Maybe one of the bodies has a pristeen passport in it's pocket of an Al Qaeda leader.

That would be proof positive that it was an Al Qaeda operation...

[Straight Shooter]

2. "They bore signs of torture."

It's been a long dark road since the days when Jessica Lynch was captured. The ghosts of Abu Ghraib now wander the bloody sands of Iraq, demanding vengeance.

FUGWB.

[hatrack]

7. But as long as it didn't lead to death or organ failure, it's not really . . .

Oh. Sorry, never mind!

[Barrett808]

14. Just to be clear, torture in Iraq means... (don't read if you don't want to know)

...getting your joints, skull, and eyes drilled out.

When you hear the blandishment "bore signs of torture," this is what they're dancing around.

[Marrah_G]

30. Human's ability for cruelty breaks my heart

I can honestly say I would rather my brother be killed in action then captured. As an officer I am pretty certain death would be very long and very painful.

[Barrett808]

34. Indeed

We'll pray it doesn't come to that for him. SMIB

[Ilsa]

39. Abu Ghraib and that raped and murdered 14 year old girl

and her family. I thought someone said that this was blowback from the murders.

[IndianaGreen]

3. Meanwhile Democratic leaders surrender to Bush on the war funding bill

Each day the Democratic Congress fails to defund the war, is a day in which more American GIs will die.

[liberalnurse]

6. Now that's another story...let me briefly add to it.

They did what was best for them.....the War is the lead campaign issue for every Presidential Candidate....To slow it down now is too early...the plan has been activated to make the War a lead issue for every campaign rally. Now, how does that involve Congress? Well, everyone in the House is up for re-election in 08 and getting side-by-side traction with Democratic Presidential Nominee is essential for a re-election. No other issue evokes such outrage....It sells. They made the decision...I disagree with it but that is my perception.

They have Kucinich, Fiengold etc...to be the deep left voice while they ALL know the plan is not to end it just yet or set time-lines.

[IndianaGreen]

16. Therefore, Democrats that vote to fund the war are doing so over the bodies of dead GIs

They are gambling on the lives of American troops in order to have a campaign issue for an election 18 months away. How many names will be added to the rolls of the fallen during that time?

[liberalnurse]

17. Make no mistake now...please.

I do not condone this...It is just what figure out to be what they are doing. You know, look at how many voted for the War way back when...It was out of fear of not getting re-elected and looking weak on war.

This smells the same.....just on a different plate. It's predicable behavior. Go look at every Presidential Candidates web site and you can see it there....Primary issue....Iraqi War.

[IndianaGreen]

22. We still have people like Dennis Kucinich fighting for peace, rather than appeasing war

Kucinich: While Washington Sleeps, Effort to Privatize Iraq’s Oil Continues

Washington, May 18 - WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today’s Washington Post had a headline story “Bush Open to Iraq Benchmarks.” Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) issued the following statement:

“The benchmarks include a provision, which would lead to privatization of Iraq’s oil wealth. The President is open to such legislation because it is his idea. He and the Vice President have consistently misled the Congress on this matter, attempting variously to mask the privatization scheme as ‘equitable revenue sharing’ and as a means toward ‘reconciliation.’ This is a grand deception.

“While the media is paying close attention to the process of negotiations between the Administration and Congress, very few are looking at the most substantive issue in all the benchmarks: The attempt to force Iraq to privatize its oil, a provision open for all who can read to see in the text of the bill before the Iraqi Parliament.

“Congress has had little or no examination of the consequences of the benchmark which calls for Iraq to pass a Hydrocarbon Act. It isn’t asking questions and the President isn’t telling.

“Of course the President isn’t ruling out punishing the Iraqi government for not reaching benchmarks, because his Administration has deceitfully linked concepts of reconciliation and equitable oil revenue sharing to the passage of the Hydrocarbon Act which leads to privatization of Iraq’s oil wealth!

“Democrats have denied they are for anything which privatizes Iraq’s oil, which means they may be largely unaware of what the consequences in the bill are because of Mr. Bush’s deception.

“This entire matter about control of Iraq’s oil would be a farce, if it were not so tragic in its implication. First, Congress wanted benchmarks because the President wanted them. Now the President wants benchmarks because Congress wants them. Who is the father of this baby?!

“Meanwhile Congress prepares to continue to fund the war while the White House crafts a ‘bipartisan consensus’ to force Iraq to show “progress,” meaning Iraq gives up control of its oil. This war will never end if Iraqis believe we are trying to steal their oil, and, given the substance of the Hydrocarbon Act, how could they believe anything else?”

[liberalnurse]

23. Yes he is.....

I support Dennis 110%....I am PDA from Ohio! He is the one clear voice out there. He has always lead the pack without being given the credit.

[Virginia Dare]

21. I agree with you, it's all political manipulation..

I think this is designed to lead the Republicans down the garden path. You're right though, people die in the meantime.

[Nihil]

40. I would question just who is leading who.

In addition, by the fact that they are still playing petty political
games for the sake of their own greed-filled careers, the difference
between the two sides is just about zero.

[Virginia Dare]

43. I don't agree with that at all..

I still believe the Democrats are committed to ending the war. They tried a political maneuver and it didn't work. All is not lost, there are other avenues, and they keep up the political pressure in the meantime, pushing the Republicans further into their support of an insupportable war. It's frustrating, but it's all part of the process. Like I said, in the meantime more people die, that's the real tragedy. IMO, despite what many angry and frustrated people are saying here, this still can't be laid at the Democrats' feet. They're trying, the Republicans aren't budging.

[saigon68]

33. And they will die for nothing

except for cheney's people to swill like PIGS at the public trough

[uppityperson]

9. link to another story about them

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iraq24may24,0,5478881.story?track=mostviewed-storylevel
Body found may be one of missing soldiers
Iraqi police said the body was probably that of one of the three missing soldiers, but Army Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV said the corpse had not been identified
By Garrett Therolf, Times Staff Writer
9:03 AM PDT, May 23, 2007

BAGHDAD -- A body clothed in a U.S. military uniform was found this morning floating down the Euphrates River 12 miles south of the site where three soldiers were previously abducted.

Iraqi police said the body was probably that of one of the three missing soldiers, but Army Maj. Gen. William B. Caldwell IV said the corpse had not been identified. The soldiers were ambushed and abducted in a May 12 attack that left four U.S. soldiers and an Iraqi translator dead....(more)

[rasputin1952]

10. This is one of the legacies of bushthink...

"They bore signs of torture"...:(

We can do little to claim the high ground because this administration condones torture. For a bunch of assholes that have no notion of military or civilian laws, these Chickenhawks have doomed whatever chances we had at least of trying to look somewhat civilized...:grr:

Let's be straight about this, torture and horrid events have always been a part of war, but when one condones, instead of condemns such practices, barbarism is sure to follow.

Thanks bush, cheney and all the others who think torture is the wave of the future, these 3 men have paid for your ignorance; these three men curse you, as do I for your insane policies.

How about it Dick...why don't you go over to Iraq and settle the whole thing, you think you have the answers! Come on you bed-ridden Rambo, let's see what YOU are made of...I think you're made of SHIT!

[EFerrari]

11. J. Cofer Black, remember, "The gloves are off."

:mad:

[rasputin1952]

15. Pretty soon, if this keeps up, there will be summary executions

orderd by Capt's an Lt's...:(

I can almost see it now, we are sinking even deeper into the abyss of "war crimes". Frustration will win out over caution and training, there will be be killings that can not be justified. And we will no longer be able to take the high road. bushthink has helped to detroy any credibility we have had in the world.

May these 3, and all the others, RIP...they died for the neo-con agenda of gaing wealth at any cost.

[Maat]

13. Yep.

And there have been rumors for quite some time about American soldiers/marines getting kidnapped. I'll bet this has happened before, but we just haven't heard about it. I do not trust this Administration one iota. They release news when it suits them - how it suits them.

[yellowcanine]

12. Damn. Just Damn. The Bush legacy. Death and torture.

[saracat]

19. F****ck Bush .Torture because WE tortured! I want this President to suffer his own medicine.

What a tragic development. My heart goes out to the families.May Bush , Laura and Cheney rot in hell. Laura because she talks out her 'suffering'. She doesn't go to military funerals either the sanctimonious enabling bitch.

[Marrah_G]

28. My heart goes out to the families.

The only thing worse then finding out your loved one is dead is to find out they were tortured also (whether it be during war or by some serial killer). I cannot imagine what the families feel and I never want to feel what they are feeling now. I feel the same for the families of Iraqi's tortured to death by either our men or their own countrymen.

[Ganja Ninja]

24. Meanwhile the smarmy Monica Goodling sits there lying her ass

off. I'd love to turn the whole Bushco bunch over to the terrorists and let them have their way with them. They sicken me.

[Solly Mack]

25. Well, as long as they died well funded. It's all about "supporting the troops" you know

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Solly%20Mack/203
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Solly%20Mack/236

[saigon68]

42. Well funded to where Maine lobsters

and served with "drawn butter" in the Green Zone

[Solly Mack]

46. amazing isn't it?

[saigon68]

47. Yes there's quality SWILL for the pigs

Feeding at the Public Trough

[ngant17]

31. US = death squad culture

Negroponte has taught the Iraqis well.

Death squad culture is alive and well in Iraq.

I guess the founding fathers' ideas about 'no cruel or unusual punishment' don't apply to the Pentagon and the US government these days. Let them re-write the constitution for their own whims, but I'll stick to the old fashioned one, thank you.

OTOH I don't think they should have my taxes since they can't respect the original constitution.

[Breeze54]

37. Three Bodies Found -- May Be Missing Soldiers

Source: IraqSlogger

Three Bodies Found -- May Be Missing Soldiers

http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2905/Three_Bodies_Found_--_May_Be_Missing_Soldiers

The search for the soldiers missing since an ambush in Mahmoudiya twelve days ago faced
a troubling development on Wednesday, with reports emerging that at least one body, though
possibly three, have been retrieved from rivers in Babel province.

Multiple media outlets have confirmed through US military and Iraqi police sources that one
body found Wednesday in the Euphrates river, reportedly with Western features and wearing
US-issue military pants, has been turned over to US authorities.

The independent Iraqi news agency http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=46714&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1">VOI is reporting that Iraqi police forces in Babel province have found two more bodies.

"“Babel police patrols today found two bodies believed to be from the two kidnapped U.S. soldiers
near the Euphrates bank in al-Masayab area,” the source, who asked not to be named, told the
independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).



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---

There's another story about this also.


Two more bodies in U.S. uniform found south of Baghdad
Alla Hussein, Voices of Iraq

http://uruknet.info/?p=m33112&s1=h1

Hilla, May 23, 2007 (VOI) -

Babel police said two more bodies believed to be of the kidnapped U.S. soldiers
were found on Wednesday near a bank of the River Euphrates in al-Masayeb area.
"Babel police patrols today found two bodies believed to be from the two kidnapped
U.S. soldiers near the Euphrates bank in al-Masyeb area," the source, who asked not
to be named, told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).

[T Wolf]

38. Curious about why they are referred to as "kidnapped"

Aren't (or weren't) they captured? It is a war, after all.

The corporate media uses language tricks like this to keep the propaganda flowing.

[MetaTrope]

41. It's not a "war", it's a "benign occupation"

Notice the line buried in the LA Times story about how, out of that town of 5000, 900 people are being "detained"?

My guess is it's not at the local Holiday Inn.

I suppose it's only a coincidence that the GIs were abducted in Mahmudya, where that 14-year-old girl was raped and she and her family killed by American troops. The American media seems to have a short memory though...have you noticed that there's been no mention in the news of ringleader Steven Green since February? Off the radar...

[Breeze54]

48. Because "captured", as it was explained to me, implies

a legal war, Geneva Conventions etc.

They weren't 'captured'. They were 'kidnapped'.

[Breeze54]

49. Bizarre! I posted this at 3 AM last night!

:crazy:

Three Bodies Found -- May Be Missing Sol... <1 Reply> Original Post May-24-07 03:06 AM

[saigon68]

44. "Bring em on" shouted the AWOL CHIMPANZEE

[maddezmom]

45. Military identifies soldier found in Iraqi river, denies second body found

BAGHDAD (AP) - The US military says the body pulled from a river south of Baghdad yesterday is that of a American soldier who'd been missing for nearly two weeks.

Joseph Anzack Junior was 1 of 3 soldiers who vanished after a May 12th ambush south of Baghdad that killed four other US soldiers and their Iraqi interpreter.

Al-Qaida has claimed responsibility.

PFC Anzack's family in Torrence, California, disclosed earlier that they had been informed of his death by military officials. They were told the remains were identified by Anzack's commanding officer but that results of DNA tests were pending.

A US spokeswoman in Baghdad, confirming the identity this morning, denies reports that a second body has been found. She says those reports are false.

http://kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6561847&nav=menu495_2