Claims of 9/11 conspiracy have suspect running scared

[CGowen]

Source: Rocky Mountain News

Former Denverite says 9/11 work has made him a target
Sonnenfeld Family Photo ©

Paula Sonnenfeld holds twin daughter Scarlett, and Kurt Sonnenfeld holds Natasha in a photo taken two weeks ago. The family lives in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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By Sue Lindsay, Rocky Mountain News
May 23, 2007
A former Federal Emergency Management Agency videographer accused of killing his wife in Denver is seeking political asylum in Argentina, claiming the U.S. government wants him silenced for what he saw in the smoldering ruins of the Twin Towers after 9/11.

Kurt Sonnenfeld's efforts to avoid extradition have gained interest from human rights organizations in South America and broad attention from conspiracy theorists on the Internet.

Sonnenfeld, 44, is charged with first-degree murder in the New Year's Day 2002 shooting death of his 36-year-old wife, Nancy, at the couple's home in Congress Park.

The case caused a sensation at the time, with friends describing Nancy as among the city's "beautiful people" and the two as "madly in love."

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In other interviews with Argentine media, Sonnenfeld is quoted as saying, "What I saw (at 9/11) leads me to the terrible conclusion that there was foreknowledge of what was going to happen - the precautions that were taken to save certain things that the authorities there considered irreplaceable or invaluable.

"For example, certain things were missing that could only have been removed with a truck. Yet after the first plane hit one of the towers, everything in Manhattan collapsed and no one could have gotten near the towers to do that."

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http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5550777,00.html

Read more: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5550777,00.html

[MsKandice01]

Well, the fact that he's accused of killing his wife...

Pretty much destroys all of his credibility. Damn.

[SpiralHawk]

2. Ah, but let the man have his SAY on this matter

from the original article:

"The charges against Sonnenfeld were dismissed just before trial in June 2002 after a note written by Nancy Sonnenfeld was found that supported Kurt Sonnenfeld's contention that she took her own life."

snip...

[MsKandice01]

4. Not in MY eyes...I just meant in the eyes of the general public...

I'd love to hear what he has to say.

[progressivebydesign]

12. So he's not wanted for murder? I'm confused... n/t

[TSGordon]

37. "Wrongly Accused"

Later down the page I've posted my earlier thoughts. My intent here is two-fold. First, I'm well convinced I can help this man, and I'm equally sure he's got the power to bring down the entire house of cards.

A thousand people in Denver know who I am, if they think back a ways. Like, back in '89, I shot the "New, Rocky Mountain News Building," dudes! To look down Broadway, you would think that Denver is a city of light. Certainly more so than Dallas, parched and decaying. But the sad fact is that it harbors the Illuminati, and no place is this made more clear than in the parking deck below the City Jail. You see, I learn a city brick-by-brick, which is not the purvey of the common man.

But that aside, you can't imagine how it feels to have been directly complicit in covering murder, any murder. I didn't want to spend my life in obscurity, so I went for the Big Kahuna. I covered-up the murder of 3,000 people! -Whoopee! (How dare Bush blatently upstage all that!)

Recently, I had to hire an attorney, after 30 something years of needing little more than a token of advice here and there. What I learned is that you can't hire an attorney. It's virtually suicide. No, you simply have to out-fox the perpe'trators'. And, that's exactly what our friend in exile is facing, long-distance. What I can do, unlike Citizen Kurt, is use the system against itself. I can work magic with the dumbest of local Public Defenders, if I can simply learn the semantics of the rules. I do know someone who's an expert appeals lawyer here. He has the key to the online look-ups. The magic formulas.

Can you help me? Can someone in Denver please play 'Deep throat,' and supply me with the cues?

[Celebration]

49. suggestion

I was going to suggest you post in the Colorado forum but I think you may have to have a Star (be a donor) for that. I will go on and post a link to this thread there for you.

Why not try to work through the reporter for the Rocky Mountain News? He might be able to help you in return for a big story when whatever develops.

[TSGordon]

58. Ghost of Gonzo

I did that. Nice reporter, one-stop-shopping. She's a good reader with the top link on this story and she reads the blogs.

Me, I ain't such a good blogger because my System 8, (sans 'flash' 7x+) can't keep up. But since I discovered nutrimedical.com, my brain-chain is much clearer. Dr. Deagle cured my corpal-tunnel in around 40 days with 'n-Kinaise.' Then he cured, (or more like prevented) me from catching the flu with strong garlic, 'AlliUltra.' But the real mind-blower was when he cured my 'Lyme disease' in 15 days with the use of Allicin AND "SuperSilver."

I mention all this because Dr. Deagle has been ostracised by the Denver AMA Board. And if they are out to get *the only Dr. who actually can cure people,* then, rest assured they would love to kill me, if just for bad writing.

Remember Hunter S. Thompson? He was known to make the odd appearance at ASMP meetings. I think, (and I'm not reaching here,) this was the first time I saw Mr. Sonnenfeld, at OUR Christmas party in Boulder in 1988.

My association is very clear. I thought that Kurt and Jim were assigned to shadow the 'Gonzo,' who's public appearances looked like a sine-wave. I would often do jobs in Summit Co. and his public appearances in Breckenridge also confirmed this, often directly linking our travel paths. At that point I was a great photographer, and I was said to be "among Colorado's top 3." My credo then; "Shoot to Kill!" -The theory was that no one would snuff-out a guy who 'posed' as a character right out of the Joseph Karsh classic book of portraiture.

[MsKandice01]

3. Delete...wrong spot...

[valerief]

6. What if the bad guys killed his wife to get him arrested and sentenced to death? nt

[Maraya1969]

8. That's what I thought.

[Pale Blue Dot]

23. Then why not just kill him?

That would seem to be a lot simpler.

[dogfacedboy]

66. Maybe she was a target as well.

If this is truly a case of this man knowing something that others don't want getting out, he's surely a target. "The Outfit", as the "Mob" is known here in Chicago, whacks people for smaller things than this. His wife could have been a target based on the theory of "she knows what he knows." When she died, maybe he was supposed to be hit as well, but he wasn't there.
Also, the wife could have been the hapless victim of a botched attempt on his life.

[Quantess]

56. Sounds like a good movie plot.

Bruce Willis should be the lead role.

Seriously though, this is very interesting.

[HuskiesHowls]

13. Remember the movie Enemy of the State?? n/t

[progressivebydesign]

14. Not so fast...

his charges were dismissed because they found a suicide note or a note that supported his claims that it was suicide. The reason the charges were brought back again were because of two inmates that suddenly came forward and said he "confessed" to them. Honestly.. do any of us really believe that a former govt videographer is stupid enough to tell two guys in jail that he really killed his wife?? Sounds like total bs.

[global1]

18. I Wonder If The Two Inmates Were Plants Or If They Were Offered....

a deal to say that he confessed to them.

This is terrible - I thought as someone above that the bad guys killed his wife to silence him. Now I'm thinking the inmates were plants. It pains me to think that we have these types of thoughts now and we're all so suspicious about everything that happens - but that is what *Co brought to this country. A sad commentary.

[shance]

48. Guilty until proven innocent huh? He could have very well been framed/set up.

Especially considering the circumstances.

[cannabis_flower]

53. How do we know...

He killed his wife? How do we know except that is what the news has reported. And while I am not convinced that the police there are part of a conspiracy, if this guy really knew something, isn't it possible that someone else killed her and made it look like the husband did it?

[SpiralHawk]

1. k and r - on general principle

Because the republicons have gotten away with 9/11 and their massive cover up for too damn long.

[BornagainDUer]

5. K&R. Why would somebody claim

what Sonnenfeld has if it wasn't true?

[Zynx]

7. Maybe because he's facing life in jail if he's returned to the US? n/t

[soothsayer]

9. I guess he's talking about the gold?

[seemslikeadream]

10. What I saw at certain moments and in certain places

What I saw at certain moments and in certain places...is very frightening, I don't know who to put it in words, what I saw leads me to the terrible conclusion that there was foreknowledge of what was going to happen. The precautions that were taken to save certain things that the authorities there considered irreplaceable or invaluable. For example, certain things were missing that could only have been removed with a truck, yet after the first plane hit one of the towers, everything in manhattan collapsed and no one could have gotten near the towers to do that.

- What things were removed?

Several offices of the US intelligence agencies were located in the WTC, including the second most important CIA building in the country. From some of these locations certain documentation that was irreplaceable was removed. I don't want to give too many details because our future, our lives, depend on this. The information of which I speak is already distributed in several places."


I don't think I can post the link here

[Matariki]

29. how would he know, as a FEMA worker, that CIA documents were 'missing'

it doesn't make much sense.

and he sure didn't mourn his dead wife long before remarrying...

[CGowen]

34. I don't know

(AP) A secret office operated by the CIA was destroyed in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, seriously disrupting intelligence operations.

The undercover station was in 7 World Trade Center, a smaller office tower that fell several hours after the collapse of the twin towers on Sept. 11, a U.S. government official said.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that immediately after the attack, a special CIA team scoured the rubble in search of secret documents and intelligence reports stored in the station, either on paper or in computers. It was not known whether the efforts were successful.

A CIA spokesman declined to comment on the existence of the office, which was first reported in Sunday's editions of The New York Times.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/11/05/archive/main316911.shtml

[Richard Steele]

62. No, that just sounds like BS.

BS from a guy who killed his wife.

[moodforaday]

19. It would seem so (nt)

[truth2power]

30. I think you're right about the gold. My first thought, too..

That story's been out there for awhile...about the trucks packed with gold bars seen in the basement levels of the WTC. "Course, I'm convinced it was a Bushco operation anyway.

[Morgana LaFey]

31. Do you or anyone have any links handy for that?

about the gold, that is. I can't find mine...and I consider this an incredibly important piece of the whole puzzle.

[truth2power]

39. Yes. Look here...

I googled gold + wtc + trucks and found lots of stuff. Some sources more credible than others.

Here's a few:

http://www.rediff.com/money/2001/nov/17wtc.htm
Buried WTC gold returns to futures trade

http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t2694.html
9/11 morning report of gold movement

etc. etc.

[Morgana LaFey]

55. Well shame on me.

I actually googled itself once upon a time not that longa ago (when I first realized I didn't have the gold reference I wanted to post), and came up completely empty. I'm sure I didn't have a very good keyword combo.

Thanks.

[musette_sf]

11. K&R n/t

[progressivebydesign]

15. In my 7 years here at DU I have never been into conspiracy theories.. however..

this story is very very compelling. Very compelling K&R.

I still wonder what ever became of the guy that fled to canada, the one that gave the note to the Canadian jailers regarding 9/11 before it happened ("let the first one happen") What was his name? Delmont something??

[Beausoleil]

16. Delmart "Mike" Vreeland

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=66


On October 7, 2001, Vreeland, who was fighting extradition, submitted an exhibit in a Canadian court that he says shows he knew 9/11 was coming. And, Ruppert argues, this is proof that US intelligence was aware of the coming attacks. The document is a page of handwritten notes. There is a list that includes the World Trade Center, the Sears Tower and the White House. Below that a sentence reads, "Let one happen--stop the rest." Elsewhere is a hard-to -decipher collection of phrases and names. Vreeland claims he wrote this in mid-August 2001, while in prison, and had it placed in a locked storage box by prison guards. He says the note was opened on September 14 in front of prison officials. Immediately, his lawyers were summoned to the prison, according to one of them, Rocco Galati, and the jail officials dispatched the note to Ottawa.

...

Judge Campbell called Vreeland a "man who appears on this evidentiary record to be nothing more than a petty fraudsman with a vivid imagination." But Ruppert dismisses Vreeland's past, noting he has "a very confusing criminal arrest record--some of it very contradictory and apparently fabricated." When I interviewed Vreeland, he said, "I have never legally been convicted of anything in the United States of America." And, he added, he has never been in prison.

[lovuian]

20. See there are places to run from Bush's grasp

Argentina is one

[FatDave]

40. So was that Nation article supposed to back up the conspiracy claims?

Or refute them. Because your snippets seem to be backing them up. But the entire article does a very good job of refuting them. Was I not supposed to actually read it?

[Beausoleil]

41. No, that's why I included the last blurb about his credibility

I was just posting background info on this Vreeland character from the Corn piece. I appreciate you following the link to the Nation article. There are many questions about the whole Vreeland/Ruppert affair and the article doesn't appear to resolve any definitively, I just find the original claims by Vreeland intriguing.

[PleadTheFirst]

17. K & R

[Ezlivin]

21. K&R

[Name removed]

22. Deleted message

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[Blue_Tires]

24. if he has something concrete, he needs to come forward...

anything else is just a cop-out to escape trial

[Rosa Luxemburg]

43. could be something to do with the concrete

or the dirty bomb in the basement LOL!

[Joe Chi Minh]

46. He needs to come forward like he needs a hole in his head. He needs to

give his message moving sideways and out of sight.

[Pale Blue Dot]

25. We all need to use our critical thinking skills

From the article:

Sonnenfeld did not bring up 9/11 when the initial murder case was pending against him or during a lengthy interview with the Rocky on the day he was released from jail.

He also declined to specifically discuss the World Trade Center in a 12-page, single-spaced document he sent to the newspaper in late-night e-mail sessions Sunday and Monday.

"You are asking me to antagonize the very people who, for whatever reason, desperately want me destroyed," Sonnenfeld wrote. "Frankly, I am afraid for the safety of my family. Please don't ask me about what information I have. This is not really the time or the forum."



What more likely, that this man has secret 9/11 information that he's not revealing (even though it would prove his assertions) and the government is framing him becuase of it, or that he's using a sensational story in an attempt to escape justice?

[Barrett808]

26. With the Bush mafia in power...

...I wouldn't dismiss any conspiracy theory out of hand.

[Morgana LaFey]

32. There ya go -- THE most rational approach to virtually all

Bush&Co.=related conspiracy theories. Bar none.

:thumbsup:

[file83]

28. You are right.

If this guy keeps what he knows a secret, then there is motive for the government to kill him.

If he gets it out in the open and can prove it with evidence, then he is no longer the threat.

He has zero motive to keep it a secret, yet he does. He's a con-artist/murderer.

Proof is in the pudding.

[shance]

50. Good valid questions. Could go either way. That's the problem. In this day and age

and from what we've seen created and manufactured by this Administration it could frankly be either scenario.

However I think you pose some important facts: that he has not given any specific information as to what he saw.

That should warrant sincere speculation.

Thanks for your post Finn.

[Marie26]

27. Why was he in Argentina in the first place?

Because Argentina won't extradite criminals to the US if they could face the death penalty. That's the real "conspiracy" here. He planned this pretty well.

[jollyreaper2112]

33. be careful

Just because the government is run by evil scumfucks doesn't mean that everyone coming out with a story about how evil and scumfucky they are is telling the truth. I hate to even use words that came out of Reagan's filthy piehole but I'll say it anyway: if you believe them, trust but verify. Nothing can hurt your side more than throwing your weight and credibility behind someone who later turns out to be a crank.

[TSGordon]

36. I like your angle

Good sense, but let's be honest, we're all speculating here. I can say, unequovically, that Kurt came to my house in Denver and introduced himself to me precisely once. I played along. His partner. (and I truly believe he too,) were well aware that their 'visit' was strictly covert in nature. Few people with a College Diploma ever apply for a $200. a month part-time job. But when TWO come as a pair, I call it rotten candy.

I'm not sure if I played it dead-pan that first time, but I did see them take off in a State-type vehicle. And, I took the plates, only to learn you had to pay to find out about plates.

Next, I move to LA, and go to Haidar's studio on Sunset. The pair of them walk in to visit with "Mr. Haidar," knowing exactly nothing about him. The studio walls are covered with 4'x5' posters of my friends work, and they stupidly asked: "We would love to see some of your work." -"Lots of people we've met with in LA admire your work." (Haidar shot hookers for sugar-daddies, he'd been there maybe 4 months.)

I said: "Gee, you guys look reeeal familiar!" These words had no sooner rolled off my tounge than, Kurt literally turned his head toward the doorknob, and wasted no motion to be out the door, without so much as a profile to be seen on the escape. Mr. 'Company Man,' puts his RayBans back over his eyes and continues the conversation: "What are you insinuating?" - I said: "I believe you are the two who have followed me from New York, to Denver, where we met at my house, and now you're in LA!"

As sure as Nancy herself looks down from heaven, Jim Chestnutt only said this: "I believe this conversation is over."

He too made for the door, and his final comment, (and I hadn't expected the extra sound bytes,) was something like; "Good luck you guys, I'm sure we'll find work." I looked at the business card I held in my hand.

Haidar wouldn't let me follow them. And, no, I never saw them again, until I went to PRS in Dallas, and here comes Jim, avec moustache. This was the most fun, since I never looked at him directly, but I showed him my pictures on the light box. I could tell he still hadn't a clue about true architectural photography. Google the pair's work and you will find about 4 pictures, spanning two careers.

[TSGordon]

35. Verification, "Vindication," unlike the comments above

I should have my doubts too. The problem is that I knew them both. And, from the sidelines, Mary wouldn't have killed herself, and neither would Kurt have harmed a flea. Kurt was one of two 'shadows,' I had following my exposure to the "FBI take-over" at the World Trade Center, in 1987. Like Kurt, my deadbolts were often left unlocked. The more recognizable one, Jim Chestnutt following me really pissed me off, but it eventually became a rush, especially since I was a bit of a rogue in NYC anyway. (Plus Natasha had lots of 'mob' connections, and she spotted them "everywhere.")

My complete affidavit covering every imaginable stupid detail is here: http://redlineav.com .. Go to site map.

I'm one of less than a dozen who were directly involved, and I didn't know much, but I knew enough to have gotten me killed at one time. You understand that after the faux-trial, Kurt was awarded $20M in damages, and, as I had stated (check date, I'm real tired,) that Mr. Sonnenfeld would probably "never say another word about 9/11."

The problem now, friends, is that Jim Chestnutt IS in the hot-seat, and there will be no effort from the galley to bring '9/11' truth to the forefront in this coming trial. First, they will surely 'Wellstone' the bloke if they ever get him into custody. Worse still, we're talkin' Denver, home of the FEMA unit that was in charge. The same boys who intend to control Jeppeson Terminal, after DC gets nuked. The true seat of 'continuity of Government.' And, there in the $4.B secret catacombs, he'll wish that he was in that dungeon in Argentina, if Cheney himself is allowed to administer the fatal blows!

I am prepared to go to Denver and stand in Kurt's defense, as I mentioned to the DA today. She claims she never heard such nonsense. Right, and Bill Clinton didn't know $100.M a month in cocaine was coming in through MENA! It's like Giuliani's take on Ron Paul. -Total hogwash!

All we need see is actual frames showing the thermite-cuts. Actual pictures of molten metal, weeks after the fact.

And, pray tell what was it Kurt had revealed to his wife that got her killed? Was she not poetic, prophetic, an artist in her own right? And, I am very sad for her mom, I'm sorry I didn't say that earlier.

[Barrett808]

57. Welcome to DU, Tom!

I'm reading your account right now. Quite fascinating.

[Barrett808]

61. Your story is quite interesting

I've read a number of "I was there" conspiracy revelations by various people, and yours has a ring of authenticity.

Two suggestions for making your case:

Have an editor go over your affidavit. There are a couple of lysdexic typos, and an excessive use of exclamation points!

Beef up the the corrosion documentation. This part of the story sounds completely plausible to me, but I'd like to see a lot more photos and contextual evidence. Do we have original WTC plans/documents which show the aluminum/steel design decision? That would be compelling evidence.

Explain why controlled demolition was necessary. If the superstructure was dangerously corroded and close to failure, it seems like just the airplane strikes and the burning jet fuel might have been enough to bring down the towers.

Hang in there. Make copies of your evidence and keep them safe. I've forwarded this thread to Paul Thompson (http://www.cooperativeresearch.org), one of the foremost and best 9/11 researchers, author of the indispensable Terror Timeline (http://www.amazon.com/Terror-Timeline-Comprehensive-Chronicle-11/dp/0060783389/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-9899561-6473453?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1180196038&sr=8-1). His DU user name is paulthompson.

[Beausoleil]

38. .

kick

[TSGordon]

44. Limited Hangout, and "Lifesavers"

Nico was quick to point out about Vereeland being limited hangout. I went through 4 years of such name calling, etc. I've contacted Ruppert, and followed him since Boys on the Tracks, Mena, etc. He's two-faced, but highly intelligent, and cares nothing for you or me. Boss Tweed material. Urban to a fault.

Anyway, I heard screams in the night and I was thinking about all you first-responders.

All I know of is 'SuperSilver,' which will encapsulate the nasties, 'Digesticol,' which will fight the infectuous pathogens in the bowells, and 'Flouricol' which will restore your healthy ability to maintain these vital lifeforms, on the path to recovery. Wayne Blakeley invented the last two. You need to contact Dr. William Deagle.

And, if you have this kind of a story to tell, go on his live show from 2-4 CST at GCNLive.com

[EVDebs]

42. Weren't there vast amounts of gold removed from one of the banks ?

The intelligence docs mentioned is 'lightweight' to say the least; the gold took a lot of trucks.

[TSGordon]

45. Why sweat the Gold?

I don't get your point. Sure, there were a couple hundred Million in Gold. Nobody knows, but the owners. They were never public. What you can be assured of is that these 'vaulted-areas' (probably just regular rooms,) were not subjected to the same 'loading' as the vertical freespaces.

If you ever saw such a mess, you would understand that it was probably impossible to reclaim any ordinary stacks of Gold. However, there may well have been huge reserves, fully encapsulated, and thus easy prey for rogues like the Rockefellers.

If people saw it being unloaded, it's a top-shelf story and could bring down the official story by a notch or two.

[mistertrickster]

47. Ya know, folks . . . we spend an awful lot of time around here speculating on things that MIGHT

happen . . . or not.

If this individual has photographic proof that 9-11 was an inside job, great, let's see it.

What we've got here is a guy saying he has proof. Completely different. Add in a murder charge and it doesn't smell very good.

It's like Sy Hersch saying that he has evidence that the US military sodomized children at Abu Ghraib prison. Funny, he's been saying that for years now and it never seems to go anywhere.

Or Sibel Edwards, God love her . . . she's got so much she's going to tell any day now . . . oh goodie. Bush is out of power in 18 months and 9-11 was six years ago.

If people have evidence, then let's see it.

Until then, I wish they'd just shut up.

All this speculating about the next big scandal is really nowhere.

Let's get the word out on the scandals we've got.

[loudsue]

51. It's Sibel EDMONDS, not edwards...

And she has testified before congress, behind closed doors, and all she reported was found to be true. They just won't let it become public.

As to the original post, if this guy has FILM, he needs to put it on the internet and let it fly. If he's being stalked for real, how could that make anything worse?

Unless he posts his "proof" on the internet, it's just another cloak & dagger story. But I DO remember from the day of 9/11, that the FEMA people told the newscasters in LIVE takes on the scene that they had been called in to New York, and were there since the night of 9/10. They showed the clip on TV ONCE, and we never saw it again.

:kick::kick::kick:

[TSGordon]

59. Sibel satisfies my demands

I'm not quick to judge, but when I do, look out. Sibel was assuredly 'limited hangout.' On the other hand, she spelled-out exactly what she knew. It's the context of the discussions that went askew. The folks from AFP didn't help on that round, and the atty. was found to be rotten. Note that McKinney was trashed in the end,so I think that Sibel did it right, -thus my fair-game analysis in the end.

Ruppert's another story, speaking of "I'm going to show you the evidence some day." It really pissed me to see him looking for asylym in the midst of the Maidera (sp?) riots in Venezuela, to read they didn't want him around, and to have the entire Alt. Media in Venezuela 'banish' the story as well. He was better off posing in Columbia!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

52. I'm inclined to agree - lets see the goods

no spec

[NecessaryOnslaught]

54. I knew Kurt had the goods

Kurt was reportedly the ONLY person with full access to "ground zero" and a videocamera. Hope we get to see that video.

[TSGordon]

60. The clock is ticking...

Voila. Left Bank. Someone just started a discussion at 911blogger about how they had 1,100+ images from the pits: "How do I up-load them?"

[MorningGlow]

63. Er...where did the story go?

Nothing at the link now.

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

On edit: Never mind. Found it using a search--they must've changed the link. BUT MY TINFOIL HATS STAY!
:rofl:

[yurbud]

64. kick

[NotGivingUp]

65. holy shit! k&r! nt