On Iraq, Bush Says Public is With Him

[CoffeeCat]

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Confronted with strong opposition to his Iraq policies, President George W. Bush decides to interpret public opinion his own way. Actually, he says, people agree with him.

Democrats view the November elections that gave them control of Congress as a mandate to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq. They are backed by evidence; election exit poll surveys by The Associated Press and television networks found 55 percent saying the U.S. should withdraw some or all of its troops from Iraq.

Bush says Democrats have it all wrong: the public does not want the troops pulled out - they want to give the military more support in its mission.

"Last November, the American people said they were frustrated and wanted a change in our strategy in Iraq," he said April 24, ahead of a veto showdown with congressional Democrats over their desire to legislation a troop withdrawal timeline. "I listened. Today, General David Petraeus is carrying out a strategy that is dramatically different from our previous course."



Read more: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,137382,00.html?ESRC=army-a.nl

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This is probably the SCARIEST article that I have read since this
clown took office. He's either completely delusional or he's
just flat out letting us know that America and her opinions don't
matter and will never matter.

:scared:

[goddess40]

1. This affirms that he's back on blow

What alternative world is this clown living in

[HereSince1628]

3. Maybe even back on blow in the bubble.

The question is how is Cheney managing to completely insulate this guy from outside information?

[rodeodance]

4. k

[Kikosexy2]

66. He's drunk, ...

coked up and desperate...will say any kind of bullshit...it's any wonder the media will still listen attentively to anything he has to say while the rest of the world just shrug their shoulders and mutter "more bullshit"...(sigh)....

[Massachusetts]

72. My exact thought when I read this! Woo Hoo!

[gobblechops]

2. Well

he says he doesn't read the polls.:evilgrin:

[CoffeeCat]

5. Look what military members say about this story!

They're discussing this article at Military.com--a site for military and friends to discuss current
events.

I was astounded at the lack of support for Bush. Check out the comments at the link below.

Here's a random sample:

"Talk about self denial!!!"

"You think perhaps the alcohol and drugs killed to many brain cells?"

"Is this another pretzel choking incident?"

"I for one would love to support the President’s plans in Iraq, past and present. However, he and his crew have been wrong in every major decision where Iraq is concerned. I do not see how anyone can support such failure."
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http://forums.military.com/1/OpenTopic?a=dl&f=672198221&s=78919038&x_id=137382&x_subject=On%20Iraq,%20Bush%20Says%20Public%20is%20with%20Him&x_dpp=Y&x_link=http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,137382,00.html

[waiting for hope]

23. Here is another good one:

"There is no patriotism in supporting this war or this president.

I love my country and all that it stands for, but it's pretty sad to see our Lady Liberty beaten, bruised, bloodied, and brutally raped by a bunch of money-centric oil hogs.

If anyone is a student in history, you will recall the last president we had that was like this - William McKinley. Who succeeded him?

Arguably one of the best presidents this country has ever had - Theodore Roosevelt."

Thanks for the link, I kinda enjoyed that!

[ingac70]

27. Thanks for posting that! n/t

[hobbit709]

6. When did he ever let reality slow him down?

[kimmylavin]

7. "I listened."

WTF is this guy TALKING about???

[Arkansas Granny]

26. This makes it pretty obvious, he only hears the voices in his head.

[Mad_Dem_X]

48. Can you say "delusional"?

Jeebus.

[DFW]

8. I'd say "delusional" just about sums it up. n/t

[MuseRider]

9. Well would you like to be

the one to tell him the truth?

They are so lucky that he is incurious and does not read. That way they can keep him in that bubble and nobody has to tell him the bad news. It looks like that is beginning to backfire on them too. LOL, what a tool.

[Lobster Martini]

10. Best Bush quote: "Polls just go poof at times..."

Hey, what do polls know? They just go "poof" at times. (Pollseters refer to this phenomenon as "poll-poofing.")

W. knows the public is on his side because everyone within a 10-foot radius tells him it's true, and those are the only voices he hears. Those and the voice behind the smirk that tells him he's Napoleon.

[MaineDem]

11. The Emperor truly is naked

And the people closest to him won't tell him.

This is scary, for sure.

[here_is_to_hope]

38. I wouldnt want to be close

to him if he was naked....but boy, I have a few things I would like to tell him!!!

[bdamomma]

40. and those who are closest are crazy for not saying anything

do they want to be a accomplice to his ongoing crimes.

[DFW]

12. Indeed

You'd think that even His Majesty would feel a breeze every now and then .

[underpants]

13. See instead of just having a fire we poured gas on it

great plan they'll never see THAT coming :eyes:

[junior college]

14. For the safety of the world's people

Bush should be committed. He can legitimately claim insanity when he finally goes to trial. He won't do hard time with other murderers. He'll wind up in a mental institution. He really is insane.

[cullen2382]

15. WOW

I guess he really does make his own reality

[wryter2000]

70. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[ananda]

16. it's not so much that people are with him..

.. it's just that they can't do anything to stop his
insane delusions and acting on them without
compunction or accountability.

It's the corporations and the rich that are
deciding these issues.

[msongs]

17. it confirms how weak congressional democrats are - bush knows he can do what he wants nt

[ozymandius]

18. Of course the public is with him. All 26% of them.

Boy King needs another lesson from Karl on the 50%+1 formula.

[tom_paine]

67. Of course, to Loyal and Royal Bushies, 26% IS 50.1%

after their friends get done stuffing, blocking, and altering votes.

[Connonym]

19. Yup, I vote for delusional.

Not that I want Cheney in charge (sounds like a sitcom) but you'd think that when the president is clearly suffering from mental illness that he'd have to be relieved of his duties.

[Turbineguy]

20. For Bush

a dramatically different course is getting himself a new crack dealer.

[tabasco]

21. I wonder if Bubble Boy really believes this.

How isolated is the idiot-in-charge?

[ingac70]

22. Just like a majority of Republicans support his immigration reform..

NOT. This man, his vile party... are so out of touch they are on another planet! :wtf:

[bamacrat]

24. Yeah, the public in the White House.

THis is moronic something like 70% of Americans are against this war. How can he say this?

[nolabels]

25. in twenty some months or less he can pound sand

:rant: AP and all the other complicit piece of shit corporate spin will not be able to change that either. I am also pretty sure that even if * tries to start WWIII it will still not matter. The majority of the public despise * and he does not have any way of ever being able to turn that around.

Translated, in a matter of time * will be kicked to curb no matter what happens.

Reality will always set in eventually no matter what you or anybody else does x(

[radfringe]

28. 2 comments

1. Actually, he says, people agree with him.... huh? FLASHBACK to Nixon and the 'Silent Majority'

2. I listened. Today, General David Petraeus is carrying out a strategy that is dramatically different from our previous course." huh? How is EVEN MORE of the same different?

[John Q. Citizen]

29. Unfortunatly, 80% of Dem Senators seem to validate bush's view. Why should he

question his analysis when the Dems are giving him a blank check?

[TechBear_Seattle]

35. I wish I could rate a response; your's would get the highest possible

With Congress refusing to act, and in fact enabling his delusions, Bush does not need to pay attention to reality.

[Nihil]

30. Wow.

Just "wow".

:wow:

[TechBear_Seattle]

31. The man is delusional

Why the bloody hell has he not been impeached already?

[spanone]

32. Proof that junior is out of his fucking mind.

[RethugAssKicker]

33. Its a strategy.. HE IS NOT DELUSIONAL !

The strategy is:: Repeat the lie enough and the people will believe it..

Basically, its the same old trick; TELL THE PEOPLE HOW TO THINK... even if it is not true,
..... the dumb Americans will believe it !

[MaineDem]

43. You are right

I was just thinking that. Repeat it enough... And the White House is notorious for this.

[shanti]

60. ROVE at work

this has rove written all over it. he isn't called "*ush's brain" for nothing.

[trashcanistanista]

92. Yes, and in today's world

the bigger the lie, the more believable it is. For example, Not voting to fund the war is not supporting the troops. The best way to win the war is to throw more money at it. Like it was ever "winnable" to begin with. Let's see if the American people buy into this BS.

[leftwing9]

45. You are right

..and it's frightening.

The strategy is just to pull their end of the rope as hard as they can, to drag as many Liebermans to their side as they can.

[RethugAssKicker]

46. You got it... A total slap in the face of the American people !!

They are basically calling us STUPID !

[NastyDiaper]

59. It's selective polling.. DELUSIA TEST TOWN ! (hear the advertisement)

Delusia.mp3

[blondie58]

78. You are so right, RethugAssKicker

this reminds me of a quote by Hitler
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”
Adolf Hitler

I think that Karl Rove got many of his ideas from that evil man. Some other quotes of Hitler that remind me of this administration-

“It is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge.”

“I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator"

“Universal education is the most corroding and disintegrating poison that liberalism has ever invented for its own destruction.”

“What luck for the rulers that men do not think”


“The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.”
There is a road to freedom. Its milestones are Obedience, Endeavor, Honesty, Order, Cleanliness, Sobriety, Truthfulness, Sacrifice, and love of the Fatherland.”

“The greater the lie, the greater the chance that it will be believed”

[liberal N proud]

34. They really need to put him in the hospital before he does any more damage

He truly has a mental illness

[bdamomma]

41. he does, and how do we get that message across.

call our Reps and say he is a national security threat to us??

[zalinda]

36. And this is why the dems did the Iraq bill the way they did

After they talked to him, they realized that he was crazy. Better to play along and get something for us out of the bill, then have him declare martial law or something else as equally crazy. Until they get the veto proof votes, their hands are tied, and even then we don't know what would happen. He could bomb Iran. Damn, I just thought about it, what if the dems caved in on the Iraq bill so he would hold off on bombing Iran?

zalinda

[Scott Neelan]

69. Too Late

Technically, he has declared martial law. Take a look at National Security Presidential Directive 51/Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20.

Honestly, though, I hope you're right and this is all just the Democrats trying to figure out how best to deal with a crazy, drugged wannabe Emperor.

[racaulk]

37. He's either delusional or this incredibly transparent spin.

Or perhaps both.

Why the hell is this clown still in office?

:mad:

[bdamomma]

39. I don't like him doing the thinking something he has no clue about

he is mad.

[DrDan]

42. KKKarl is lying to him

to further a bigger cause

[bridgit]

44. but of course, that would be the 'haves and the have mores' i am sure...

[BeyondThePale]

47. up = down, black = white, 2 + 2 = 5

c'mon america, just drink yer kool aid and watch tv. After all, we have the decider to deciderate for us

[LynneSin]

49. Bush should NOT mistake the support of our troops as support for war!!

I think most all of us can agree that we support our troops - we support them so much we fight to help bring them home and make sure they get the proper care and medical condition. This support for our troops has NOTHING to do with supporting the war.

I think this is where Bush is getting his numbers - proving once again what a delusional man this person is

[Vilis Veritas]

50. He is an idiot.

He sits in meetings.

They tell him shit that makes him out to be a fucking hero doing the will of the people.

Then they shuttle him to numerous fake speaking gigs and he says a bunch of canned shit that was written on the way there by whatever hack they have writing for him. I am sure the hack is charming and affable bloke, who doesn't mind sharing some of his blow on the way to the gig.

I can hear it now...hackman comes back from the crapper..."hehe, Left a little snow for you in the crapper, bud! Did you read it?"

"Well, thanks hack man...that first line of the speech killed me...hahaha...I listened....hardeharhar...I made a pun...first line...killed...hahaha! Excuse me while I go shake down Willy! Oh man, I kill me, another pun...get it? Willy? Clinton...? Man o man...break me out a beer I need to come down a little when I get back from the ski trip...hahaha!!!"

Peace.

[aggiesal]

51. The only people that agree with him are his base, ...

We all know that he doesn't listen to anybody but his base.
Rove proved it when he told Sheryl Crow that;
‘... I don’t work for you, I work for the American people. ...’
at the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner.

[Nightjock]

52. I always wondered

how he is LITERALLY able to sleep at night with the blood of so many people on his hands. Now I know. He is delusional.

[Jack Rabbit]

53. The Emperor is naked. Somebody, please get him his robe

Mad House Signs

[Auntie Bush]

54. Our opinions NEVER have mattered to the delisional fool...so why

would anyone ever think he's changed. The only thing he'll ever change are his britches...and maybe not even that!

[DemoTex]

55. The operative legal and medical terms here are insanity and dementia.

Both apply to this sick, sick man. Impeachment is for high crimes and misdemeanors. What are the Constitutional provisions for removing a stark raving madman from the helm of the ship of state? Bu$h is a walking, talking time bomb.

[lonestarnot]

56. hmmmmmf bushitler!

[Javaman]

57. Bunker mentality...

since moron* has appointed the war czar, I wonder how long luke will last.

I see this latest statement by the disconnected in charge* as the start of the final swirl down the toilet bowl of leadership (or should that be shit to be pun worthy).

He* has begun his* death flail. twisting obvious truths and turning them inside out to fit his grossly distorted view of reality.

his* dry drunk (not so dry anymore if he* ever was to begin with), post coke addicted snort fest, god knows what else mentality is finally crashing into the brick wall of reality and he* can't handle the oh so real fact that he*s to face up to. he's* a colossal failure control freak that doesn't have the slightest fucking clue as to what he* is doing.

there are so many things I would like to say, but would be banned for saying them, that I will just state the obvious, he* needs to be impeached and not put in prison but put in an asylum. The man* is certifiably insane.

I am so filled with disgust and loathing for this pig* masquerading as a human being that it turns my stomach any time he* utters any sort of phrase that espouses "understanding" or "sympathy" for he* feels neither and is incapable of empathy.

In a word, he* is a sociopath.

Please, let justice prevail and free this nation from his* tyrannical rule.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

58. By "the public," he means

that segment of the world's population living in a cave in Tora Bora.

[yardwork]

61. Actually, this is a rational response by bushco - the war is making them billions

The war is a brilliant success to those who are making billions off the increased price of oil and the no-bid contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Those are the same people who happen to be running the war.

OF COURSE they will "stay the course." It would be irrational for them not to, since the war has provided them with exactly what they wanted - power and wealth.

It would be irrational for anyone else to agree with them and fail to try to stop them.

[BikeWriter]

62. ...

[LSK]

63. if there was any doubt at all, this should erase it

HE IS COMPLETELY INSANE!!!

[fudge stripe cookays]

64. "Cloudcuckooland"

I believe is what we call his homeland. You keep thinking he can't get any worse, and the minute you give voice to your feelings, he utters some more complete bullshit!

[marmar]

65. He has lost all contact with reality.....

This is truly getting scary. :scared:

[Prophet 451]

68. So, what do you think?

Booze, coke, insanity or all three?

[colorado_ufo]

71. He doesn't actually believe any of this.

Here is where, I believe, so many people go off in the wrong direction. They assume that * thinks the way that they do and is sincere, but this sincerity is marred by his being delusional, on drugs or alchohol, misdirected, misinformed, misguided, or even deceitful. But actually, he is just "don't give a shit." He sees a poll, or anticipates a confrontational question, and just turns to his scriptwriters with something akin to, "Spin me a response." Then goes about his business, which is the single-minded goal of staying in power.

[sakabatou]

73. He's lost it

Or seems to be in a constant bubble of Opposite World.

[npincus]

76. he never had it

and now the rest of the world is catching on. Though we at DU were never fooled.

[ClintonTyree]

74. He's mentally unfit to lead the nation....

his delusions have reached a point where he should be relieved of his duties as CIC. We'll deal with Cheney after that. One step at a time in removing this cancerous administration from power. :grr:

What a horse's ass! :banghead:

[classysassy]

75. The man in the oval office

that sick man should be removed as soon as possible,for no other reason that to save the lives on both sides.

[Cant trust em]

77. G-Dub is smoking crack rocks

[Ino]

79. Saying the American People support him is nothing new

From "the American People want their Prezdint rested & fit" to justify his many vacations, to "the American People know that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction" to justify his war of lies... Shrub calls his OWN wishes ours. Tony Snow does it all the time. All the Repugs do it.

It drives me nuts. And it's wearing very thin now.

[Vickers]

80. "carrying out a strategy that is dramatically different"

Explain that one, you drunken ass.

[fryguy]

81. which "public" could he possibly be referring to?

this one?

<>

[acmavm]

82. He can say anything he wants. Who's gonna stand up to him?

Who's gonna stop him?

[Joey Liberal]

83. He's stoned n/t

[Heywood J]

84. Hello, twenty-fifty amendment...

If this isn't incapacitation or mental defect, then I'm not sure what is. He's evidently on drugs again or demented.

Bring in the neutral doctors, blood tests, and shrinks.

[DemSoccerMom]

85. Can you say delusional? n/t

[HowHasItComeToThis]

86. I MUST KEEP TELLING THE LIE, OR MY HEAD WILL EXPLODE

GEORGE :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

[fshrink]

87. I'm afraid he is right.

Otherwise, he wouldn't be sitting where he is. Let's say that "enough" of the public is with him. "Enough" of the American people voted for an idiot asshole, voted for his War and continue to do so (including Democrats). If he had less than a third of support, he'd be in jail by now.

[Vidar]

88. Delusional asshole surrounded by yes men who reinforce his illusions.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

89. On one hand we have Lieberman claiming anti-war legislation is "pandering to public opinion"

Which is now a no-no for politicians according to Lieberman. On the other we have president no-brains changing public opinion to what he wants it to be. In their own ways the both of them are equally insane.

[CRH]

90. I think the only crazy Bush is, is crazy like a fox, ...

Everyone on this board seems not to remember well beyond the start of the Iraq war the majority of people believed Saddam was behind 911. All Bush and Cheney had to do was twice a month make the statement and the press and television media trumpeted it far and wide, and it was so.

Watch for more statements like this to come out, I believe you are about to see a revisionist history in formation. Two days after the democrats folded on the with drawl time lines in the funding bill, Bush pops up in a news conference saying he wants to start the with drawl of troops within a year. Notice, after he had won the political victory over time lines, and after he had in the congressional records, the over whelming approval of bi-partisan funding. He made the democrats look weak and indecisive.

What he has done is re-captured the initiative on the Iraq war, controlling the timing not for total with drawl, but for strategic re-deployment of the majority of troops. Now everyone agrees the Republicans can not win in 08 if the war is and issue, but what if Bush makes it a non issue by re-deploying the troops out of harms way 3-6 months before the election, keeping them close but out of the 'bloody' headlines.

Then the democrats can't yell about a 'non issue war' they over whelmingly approved the start of, and continued to fund to the very end. It will be spun that the President knew when it was best to with draw and has done so. The democrats won't be able to comment on the elevated civil strife, because after all they wanted to desert the surge before it had a chance to minimize the aftermath.

Bush is crazy, crazy like a fox. Now watch him and the media machine convince the public he alone has found the best solution to the war, while silencing enough critics to keep the forum in doubt.

[SKKY]

91. I wrote a poem about our president...

Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
I'm schizophrenic.
And so am I.

[Orsino]

93. Well, this is a point on which he HAS to lie...

...as opposed to his usual reflexive lying. Bush-era Republicanism requires asserting the opposite of the truth as a bargaining tactic, and letting oneself be argued back to a merely right-leaning consensus.

[tavalon]

94. On Everything, The Public Says Bush is Delusional.

[Supersedeas]

95. will Pissypants ever come out of the bubble

[Orsino]

96. By "with him," he means "glad not to be in Iraq, either"?

Maybe.

But no, he's not this delusional; he's just lying again. As the consequences of his failures catch up, his claims must move farther and farther from reality.

[Kool Kitty]

97. Well, look at it this way-

it proves that our Prez isn't just a social drinker. Now we know.