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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:12 PM
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Cuba Official Wants U.S. 'Regime Change'
Source: AP

A top Cuban official said Friday he hopes the United States will experience ``regime change'' and stop interfering in the affairs of governments around the globe.

In an interview with CNN, National Assembly President Ricardo Alarcon was asked to react to comments by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who said while traveling in Spain that ``there must be a democratic transition in Cuba.''

Alarcon responded that he hopes ``there will be a regime change in your country.''

``A change from war to peace, a change (from) arrogance and this kind of interfering in everybody's affairs, and looking back a little bit at home and (facing) the real problems Americans have,'' he said.1



Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6678017,00.html
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:18 PM
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1. Ah, who would have ever thought I'd have this much in common with
the Cuban National Assembly President?
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:34 PM
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2. Don't we all
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:09 PM
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5. Ditto here! Alarcon expresses the views of millions of people around the world
Everyone wants to get rid of Mister Danger.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:39 PM
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3. Most Americans, along with the entire rest of the world.............
want U.S. regime change.......today; right NOW!!!
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 08:51 PM
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4. hes 90 miles away
And can still smell the sulphur.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:21 PM
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10. Maybe he'll launch an invasion force. We could call it...
..."C-Day, the 6th of June." Kinda kidding, kinda not!
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:33 AM
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19. Wait...
were you just "kind of not kidding" about us being invaded? Please exit country to your right hand side....thank you.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:45 AM
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21. It's my country, and I'll stay if I want to...
And you have absolutely nothing to say about it.

There's something called satire here at DU that you may not have discovered yet. And if my comments don't please you, you can simply block my messages, and not bother me anymore.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:48 AM
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22. Be glad...
You live in a country where we can all sit on a forum every night and make posts critical to our Government, and not have to worry about being black-listed, thrown in the pokey, or invaded.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:44 PM
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26. Actually, we do have to worry about all that. Ever hear of ...
the Patriot Act, or the Military Commissions Act? Do you know about the government's "No Fly List?"

"Government" does not merit a capital G, unless it begins a sentence, or unless you are feeling sufficiently worshipful.

You've made your point, and now I'm going to block you so that you can spend your time lecturing to others who might have a greater appreciation for your advice than I do. Inviting someone to leave this country because you don't agree with something they've written is very bad form, on this forum, on any forum, in any circumstance.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:33 PM
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30. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:16 AM
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31. What I am not happy about is that I have to share a country
with blind fools like you who can't seem to understand that you no longer live in a free country, yet feel the need to preach to everyone that we should live in The Matrix like you do.

Why don't you go to the mall and buy some stuff, or go buy another Yellow Magnet for your gas guzzler so you can feel manly and powerful.

Or perhaps go chest-beat for your favorite sports team for that oh so much needed feeling of fake tribalism.

Cheers to you, Ugly American.

Go back to sleep.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:31 PM
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34. Hmmm...
Your post pretty much shows....well, it shows.

You dont think anyone on here goes to the mall, drives an Suv or Mini-van, or has a favorite sports team? That makes them an "ugly American?" What does that have to do with politics anyway? Do I have to vote for a right-winger now that I want the Ducks to win the Stanley Cup or I need to fit my whole family in my car at once?

The only thing that is ugly is that huge chip on your shoulder.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 05:13 PM
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36. You want the Ducks to win the Stanley Cup?
That alone should get you sent to Gitmo. :evilgrin:
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:27 PM
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38. AHA!!!
Hey, just looks at my name!! SOCAL BABY!
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:38 PM
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35. What country would that be?
Certainly not this one.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:25 AM
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24. Whoa here.......kidding about not kidding!!! its time for ---->
SUPERDAWG










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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:01 PM
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27. Jawohl! :) nt
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:29 PM
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6. hugo chavez is a dictator
oh wait, wrong thread. :yoiks:
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. lmfao!! oh dear...
that smilie is perfect to.

Hopefully both sides of that debate find a little comic relief in your post.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:38 PM
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9. Look here
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:43 PM
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11. Not again!
:rofl:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #6
16. LMAO
The world will be better off with regime change in USA!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #6
28. The USA corporatewhoremedia
says he is so it must be true.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #6
33. LMFAO!
:rofl:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 09:35 PM
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8. IMPEACH BU$HCO!
Edited on Fri Jun-01-07 09:37 PM by burrowowl
and BASTA the CORPORATIONS!

K&R

Look here
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-01-07 10:52 PM
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12. Regime change LOL!
I love it!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:01 AM
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13. Yes. Yes!!!!
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:07 AM
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14. Saw that interview with Wolf..
He seemed like he was getting pissed every time Alarcon would point out where the US was being hypocritical and the regime change thing. Great.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:08 AM
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15. They are planning to attack! Let's invade, quickly!

WOOOLVVVEERRRRINNNNNNEEEESSSS!!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 12:46 AM
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17. Ricardo Alarcon: Castro almost 'fully recovered'
Eat your hearts out, Miami gusanos and their allies among the Venezuelan elites.

I pray that Fidel outlives Bush!

Castro almost 'fully recovered'

Cuban President Fidel Castro has almost completely recovered from the stomach surgery he had last year, says the head of the country's national assembly.

Speaking in a US TV interview Ricardo Alarcon gave no indication of when the Cuban leader might return to power.

But he said Mr Castro was over the worst after a series of operations, including what he described as very delicate surgery.

Mr Alarcon also said Mr Castro was reading and writing a lot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6714381.stm

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jkg4peace Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 01:43 AM
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40. Alarcon is cool--
I heard him speak at the WSF in Caracas. Those Latin American lefties are so crystal clear on all the issues -- wish we had more like them.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:14 AM
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18. To quote Denis Leary
HEY! JOIN THE FUCKING CLUB!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:30 PM
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29. HaHa! That's funny..
I'll have to remember that!~
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:42 AM
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20. Wonder if they have any poisoned rum?
Just wish'n
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:54 AM
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23. This guy has always been very quick, clever, humorous, knowledgeable,
and focused, well balanced in every interview I've ever seen with him. His calm demeanor would make him a formidable opponent in a debate. He doesn't get wild-eyed and emotional. He's not going to flame people. He will blind them with facts!

He's an impressive person. Wonder what their plans are for him in the future. He's an outstanding resource.

http://www.commondreams.org.nyud.net:8090/headlines02/images/0708-02.jpg http://www.babalublog.com.nyud.net:8090/archives/alarcon.jpg



Listening to the speech given live nationally by Jimmy Carter,
Universidad de La Habana, Cuba. 14 mayo 2002
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 06:20 PM
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37. He had a great interview in "Cigar" magazine
Edited on Sun Jun-03-07 06:23 PM by gorbal
I was really impressed. He actually said, in a roundabout way, that he WANTED americans to come to Cuba to influence Cubans. (and vice-versa)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 01:33 PM
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25. A lot of Bushite phrases could be turned around like this.
Regime change--ha! We KNOW where "regime change" is really needed!

"Mission Accomplished!" 2009: The "black box" voting machines have been dumped into 'Boston Harbor' and Al Gore re-elected as President. Mission accomplished.

"Winning the war on terror." Torture ended. Unjust detention without charge ended. "Rendition" ended. Guantanamo Bay prison ended. The sadistic crime gang in the White House ended. Illegal, unjust, heinous war ended, and forbidden forever more by Constitutional amendment, if necessary. "Terrorism" relegated to its proper venue, good police work. The "Patriot" Act ended. Competent, loyal Americans put in charge of NORAD and other national security agencies (the NSA, FEMA). No more money to the fascist government of Colombia for slaughtering union organizers, leftists and peasants and dumping them in mass graves, and trafficking in drugs. Winning the war on terror that has been perpetrated by our own government.

"Supporting our troops." New policy: Never again will U.S. troops be put in harm's way to serve the interests of global corporate predators, and to lard the bank accounts of war profiteers. "Support our troops" by SHOWING SOME RESPECT for their patriotism and their service. "Support our troops" by not using them as cannon fodder.

"Supporting our troops," part II. De-mobilize them. Give them good civilian jobs. Cut the military budget by, say, 90%, down to a true defensive posture. No more wars of choice! Stop creating a poor underclass that has no choices except military service! "Support our troops" by creating social justice.

"We are a Christian nation." Then act like one. Understand Jesus' core message--and Christianity's main contribution to western civilization--that every human being is equal to every other human being, rich or poor, royal or plebian, male or female, fisherman or king--and that all should be guided by principles of peacefulness, love and generosity. Reject the DISTORTIONS of this religion into its opposite by powermongers and warmongers.

There are many contributions, from many cultures, that together define what this nation is--including the fact of its multiculturalism. But if you are going to hark back to its Christian--and Deist!--origins, be true to those origins, which inspired Thomas Jefferson, for instance--in Jefferson's Bible--to ferret out the core Christian message, and to imagine a country built on the principles of equality, peacefulness, freedom from religious tyranny, and freedom from religious wars. He may have failed to get his anti-slavery plank into the Declaration of Independence, and may have been trapped by his own society and era in the ownership of slaves, but he knew well what he was about when he wrote of a nation in which "all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights," and hoped for a time when that would be true.

That is our Christian--and Deist--origin. All men are created equal. The Bushites and the soldiers. The billionaire CEOs and the maids and janitors. The women and the men. The bosses and the workers. The black and the white, and the shades in between. All. That was the dream. This was the main work of Jefferson's life--to keep the U.S. free of religious war and to embed the notion of equality in its institutions. He knew that Christianity could not be true to itself if it continued to be cemented with state power, as had been the case in Europe since the 5th Century AD. Cemented with state power, Christians become torturers and warmongers and Crusaders and witch-hunters. He may have failed on the issue of slavery, but he laid the foundations upon which the slaves were emancipated a hundred years later, and upon which the civil rights movement was based, a hundred years after that. Equality--straight from the life and core teachings of Jesus.

Now we have Bushites trying to undo that equality, with voter "caging" lists (often aimed at black voters), and policies that harm and impoverish people of color most of all. If we are going to be inspired by Christianity, then we might try paying some attention to what its founder said: Love they neighbor; give all you have to the poor and follow me; the kingdom is within you (not outside of you, in your material possessions); forgive your enemies; turn the other cheek.

"We are a Christian nation." Who would Jesus make war upon? Who would Jesus steal from? Who would Jesus torture?

"We are a Christian nation"--not. But we should at least stop being hypocrites--and spitting on the graves of our cultural founders, from Jesus to Jefferson.

Well, I got off point, sort of. What Bushite phrases would YOU like to turn around, and use to good--and sweetly ironic--purpose?

Funny thing is, Cuba--although we may not care for its political system--is a helluva lot more 'Christian' than we are. There, everybody has food on the table. Everybody has medical care--and of a high quality. Everbody gets a free education through university level. Everyone has useful work and a sense of common purpose. The music is great--and corporations are not allowed to ravage the environment. It's still a quite beautiful place--not the horrendous, unnatural eyesore that Miami has become. And do you think the Cubans would evacuate only the rich and middle classes, and leave the poor to rot and die, in a major natural disaster, and use the disaster to lard, say, the vice president's corporation with yet another "no bid" contract? Cuban communism has turned out to be far more 'Christian' than anything we have created. Talk about irony!

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:24 AM
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32. I actually share this hope with him
Who would've thought? Limited "regime change" to a new adminstration, of course. But to "stop interfering in the affairs of governments around the globe" sounds good to me.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:44 PM
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39. I bet there's a lot of uncomfortable Republican wives reading that article and realizing
that they have more in common with our Commie neighbors than they thought.
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