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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:37 PM
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Original Lincoln Document Found
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - The National Archives on Thursday unveiled a handwritten note by Abraham Lincoln exhorting his generals to pursue Robert E. Lee's army after the battle of Gettysburg, underscoring one of the great missed opportunities for an early end to the Civil War.

An archives Civil War specialist discovered the July 7, 1863, note three weeks ago in a batch of military papers stored among the billions of pages of historical documents at the mammoth building on Pennsylvania Avenue.

The text of Lincoln's note has been publicly known because the general to whom Lincoln addressed it telegraphed the contents verbatim to the front lines at Gettysburg. There, the Union army's leaders failed for more than a week to aggressively pursue Lee following his defeat.

A week after Lincoln's note, the Confederate army slipped across the Potomac River into Virginia and the war continued for two more years.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070607/ap_on_re_us/archives_lincoln
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:00 PM
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1. as contrasted with the yet-to-be-unearthed note
from bush to HIS generals saying "let bin Laden get away; I don't want to wrap this thing up too soon"
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populist101 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:05 PM
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3. sadly....
I don't doubt that such a note exists!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:23 PM
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7. You have a link to that Bush note document? I'd like to see that!
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:05 PM
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2. Second note found...
It said "As soon as this war is over I'm shutting down the Republican Party. I don't trust these fuckers as far as I can throw them."
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:50 PM
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4. Mr Lincoln didn't run as a Republican his last campaign. . .
he ran for President in 1864 as the National Union Party candidate, an amalgam of moderate Republicans and Democrats who favored swift reintegration of the rebellious States. The Radical Republicans, who demanded swift and fierce punishment for all rebels, split with the President and formed the Radical Democracy Party, with John C. Fremont as their candidate.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:01 PM
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5. That is interesting information
I didn't know that.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:27 PM
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11. neither did i... thanks for that history lesson. (eom)
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:43 PM
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14. Lincoln's VP for 2nd term was Andrew Johnson -- a Democrat
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:21 PM
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6. Wow. So where does the GOP get this "party of Lincoln" shit?
maybe... ?



...nahhhhh.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:54 PM
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8. That is incredible, I never knew that about Lincoln, plus he was then assassinated
...shortly after his 2nd term began on April 14th 1865. His biography mentions nothing about a 2nd term run as leader of the National Party....oh wait I did not look up far enough. It is there, but I get the impression it was one and the same party, just different political factions in a most turbulent time for the country. Please correct me if I don't have that right, because like most I have always had the impression that Lincoln and Republicanism were always one and the same. However, it has puzzled me through the years as to just way I admired Abraham Lincoln as president who had far more in common with the common people and could very well have been a democrat like FDR then resemble almost any republican president after Lincoln, and certainly this BushCo bunch of bastards are about as far removed from the beliefs and principles espoused by Ab Lincoln as any politician can be.:

<snip>
1860
Lincoln gained national fame because of his powerful speech at Cooper Union in New York City on February 27th. He toured New England making more speeches. Regarding the presidency, he wrote a friend on April 29th that "The taste is in my mouth a little."

On May 18th he was nominated for President at the Republican National Convention in Chicago. In July the Lincolns' eldest son, Robert, enrolled at Harvard University. On October 15th 11-year-old Grace Bedell of Westfield, New York, wrote Lincoln a letter suggesting he grow a beard. He decided to follow her advice. On November 6th Lincoln was elected President over 3 opponents (Stephen Douglas, John Breckinridge, and John Bell) winning 39% of the popular vote but nearly 60% of the electoral vote. The Lincolns rented their home for $350 a year and sold most of their furniture. Much of the furniture was purchased by L.L. Tildon of Chicago, and it was destroyed in the Great Chicago Fire of 1871.

<snip>
1864
Lincoln nominated Ulysses S. Grant as the first full lieutenant general since George Washington. Grant assumed his role as General-in-Chief of Union armies.

Lincoln received the Republican (National Union Party) nomination on June 8th to run for a 2nd term as President. Andrew Johnson was his Vice-Presidential running mate. On November 8th he easily defeated Democrat George B. McClellan in the Presidential election. Later in November General Sherman set Atlanta on fire and began his destructive "march to the sea." On December 6th Lincoln nominated Salmon P. Chase for Chief Justice.


Pictured above is the Lincoln Cottage at the Soldiers' Home - where the Lincolns often stayed to avoid Washington's summer heat. Once a shot was fired through Lincoln's hat (possibly by a hunter but probably by a sniper) while the President was on horseback near the Soldiers' Home. The President asked that no mention of it be made to the public. He said, "It was probably an accident and might worry my family."


<snip>
1865
A peace conference at Hampton Roads, Virginia, failed. On March 4th Lincoln was inaugurated as President for the second time.

This is a Library of Congress photograph of Lincoln speaking at his 2nd Inauguration.

Richmond was abandoned by the Confederates, and Lincoln walked through the streets of that city on April 4th. On April 9th Robert E. Lee surrendered to Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox. Lincoln gave his last public speech on April 11th. He told a crowd at the White House that he hoped for an early return of all the seceded states to the Union. The Lincolns attended the play Our American Cousin at Ford's Theatre on April 14th, and Lincoln was shot by John Wilkes Booth at about 10:15 P.M. The President died the next morning at 7:22 A.M. + 10 seconds. He was 56 years old at the time of his death. Andrew Johnson took the oath of office as the 17th President on April 15th. On April 21st a nine car funeral train that included 300 dignitaries left Washington, D.C. and began a nearly 1700 mile journey back to Springfield. During the afternoon of May 4th, Lincoln's body was buried at Oak Ridge Cemetery .
<MORE>

http://members.aol.com/RVSNorton/Lincoln23.html
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:39 PM
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13. Gore Vidal's "Lincoln'
Old Abe was an ....extraordinary person, that's for sure. Vidal's book brings Abe to life, in a refreshing way; warts and all....it's too bad though, that the 'rebels' weren't hanged in lots back in the 1860's....junyer bush is prez because the 'rebs' still think they can commit treason w/out any danger to them....maybe this time justice will be done (also, the fact the bastards hate Lincoln, who probably did more to prevent mass executions of the guilty then anyone else was just make astonishing the hypocrisy of the freepers and their rightwing media enablers)
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:54 PM
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15. It sounds like that was a very good book.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:01 PM
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17. Yes thanks I'll get that as a summer read or maybe an audio tape/CD
...of it being read while I work.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:12 PM
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18. Yes! Recommended reading!
Anything by Gore Vidal is good reading. By the way he is a cousin to Al Gore.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:35 PM
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12. Lincoln
Yes true, alot of people dont know that!!! :hi:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:15 PM
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9. Now if they can just find that Constitution... (nt)
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 04:16 PM by ih8thegop
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:19 PM
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10. Bush moves to classify recently discovered Lincoln memo...
Claims it makes his military leadership skills look bad by comparison. Leaking the document, in his words, "Would give aid and comfort the terrorists."

:evilgrin:
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:31 PM
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16. Meade gets a bad rap
George Gordon Meade was the true hero of Gettysburg. (Okay, there were many: Reynolds, Chamberlain, Hancock and Longstreet, but HE was the one to see that Reynolds' assessment of the terrain was dead on, and he was the one who held the line.)

His army was torn apart and unable to mount offensive operations after the incredibly overrated Lee was forced to withdraw. Meade used unfortunate wording to inform Lincoln that Lee had left Pennsylvania, and Lincoln had an unfair shit fit.

As testimony to Meade's competence, when Grant was appointed to take command of all the armies, he specifically kept Meade as commander of the 1st Corps.

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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 12:55 AM
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19. I've always felt Meade got blamed for the Union's lack of infrastructure
And people have to keep in mind that up until Gettysburg, the Eastern theater had mostly consisted of Lee chewing up whatever Federal armies were sent his way. It was not at all clear that the Federal forces were in any condition to pursue Lee, nor was it even clear that Lee's withdrawal into territory that became friendlier to him with each mile he travelled was anything but a trap to get them to pursue. Meade made the right decision, IMO.
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