Pelosi sees ‘drastic’ troop cuts by mid-2008

[RamboLiberal]

Source: MSNBC

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi predicted Thursday that there would be “a drastic reduction in troops” in Iraq by the middle of 2008, saying Democratic opposition to the war had “changed the debate on Iraq in our country.”

In an interview airing Friday on MSNBC’s “Hardball,” Pelosi, D-Calif., told host Chris Matthews that while Democrats may have failed for now to force President Bush to agree to a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops, their agitation for disengagement from Iraq had backed the president into a corner.

Pelosi noted that Bush yielded to pressure from members of his own party in accepting benchmarks of progress that the Iraqi government was encouraged to meet to keep U.S. support.

The benchmarks in the emergency appropriations bill Bush signed last month were pushed by Sen. John Warner of Virginia, a highly respected Republican expert on defense, so “the president ... does have to answer to the benchmarks in the bill that passed,” she said.

“In either case, I think he’s in very bad shape,” she added.



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[bluestateguy]

1. Talk is cheap Nancy

Now cut off Baby Bush's allowance money for his war so he can't play with his toys anymore.

[rodeodance]

13. you need 67 votes!!

[Wilms]

2. Wilms sees a drastic number of dead soldiers by mid-2008. n/t

Whose spinnin' whom?

[rep the dems]

3. Oooohhh a drastic reduction by Mid 2008.

They've got to be kidding.

[monktonman]

4. Drastic cuts?

Maybe, but I'm sure Nancy will have nothing to do with it.
Talk is cheap indeed

[ixion]

5. well, it's pretty much a given that there will be fewer troops in Iraq a year from now...

because we're just leaving them over there so they can be targets in the Iraqi civil war. :-(

[Demeter]

7. I Thought You Were Referring To The Growing Death Toll

that's one sure way to decrease the troops.

[ixion]

14. yep, that's exactly what I'm referring to...

should have made it more clear, I guess.

[Demeter]

6. Does This Mean Impeachment Is FINALLY On the Table?

or better yet, will it be done over Bush and Cheney's dead bodies?

[anitar1]

8. I won't be holding my breath. n/t

[Lautremont]

9. "Where do you see those, Nancy?"

"In my MIND."

[bemildred]

10. I see a "drastic" change in Congress in 2008. nt

[Zandor]

15. To Greens?

Not likely.

To the GOP? If that happened, it certainly wouldn't be because Pelosi and company weren't agressive enough in ending the war.

[bemildred]

16. How about different Democrats?

Anti-war Democrats, new ones, can we do that? Is that OK?

[KingFlorez]

18. The majority of the Democrats in Congress are anti-war

[bemildred]

20. Apparently there are not enough of them, or they are not anti-war enough yet. nt

[Warren Stupidity]

29. Not in the senate. 14 votes was all we got.

[Zandor]

22. How about more Democrats

The ones there are predominantly anti-war.

[bemildred]

24. Yep, that's good too. More Democrats, and more anti-war Democrats. nt

[DrDan]

11. and exactly what has changed . . .

other than we have more troops there . . .

and they (the Iraqis) hate us more . . .

and we have fewer other friends around the globe . . .

yep - the Dems winning sure did change things

[partylessinOhio]

12. Swamp Mistress has been in Congress twenty years. She is overdue

to leave and let a new generation save America.

She ought to be ashamed to let our troops stay in harm's way.

[Skip Intro]

17. I might as well ask you - could she have brought them home?

Of did the political reality preclude that most desirable outcome, for now?


Were the funds withheld, would not the ensuing deaths of the troops, kept there in spite of the funding cut - no doubt, be then on the hands of the Dems? Would not then the same team that succeeded in convincing enough voters that Max Cleland, triple-amputee vet, was a terrorist sympathizer, morphed into osama, set that same machine into motion against Congressional Dems? Would not then public opinion crash wildly for the Dems? Would not then it become increasingly likely that Dems would be so detested by the public seeing troop deaths continue and master flag-waving spin from the regime come election time that the scum truly responsible for this criminal debacle finds the doors open not only to the WH, but both houses of congress yet again? Is that scenario so far removed from reality? Or is it the extremely likely outcome of a slim majority taking a drastic measure sure to end in political suicide? And then where would the troops, the people, the nation, and the world be?


Questions. I don't think the situation is as clear cut as those holding your point of view tend to view it.


This isn't directed at you specifically, just something I've been compelled to say to the general view you espouse.

[KingFlorez]

19. Reality check

Nancy Pelosi doesn't have executive authority to bring the troops home.

[partylessinOhio]

25. Well, then I guess this "war" will go on forever because * says so.

She is the leader/speaker - she could have led her fellow Democrats to stop funding the war - but she did not.

She wants the glory but she can't do the job.

We need a new and strong leader who won't play goo goo with *.

[KingFlorez]

33. Bush isn't going to be President forever

Regardless of who is the Speaker, there would be no easy solution to ending the war because Bush refuses to compromise. Pelosi didn't give up, in September there is another vote and it could be the one that ends the war. Nothing happens overnight.

[Zandor]

23. "Swamp Mistress" ???

This is Democratic Underground, isn't it?

[unkachuck]

31. yep, and we're proud of it....n/t

[Warren Stupidity]

21. *cough* bullshit *cough*

Nice try Nancy, but it don't fly. We are stuck with this occupation until at least 2009. You had your chance, you failed. Stop trying to dress it up as victory, how stupid do you think we are?

[BushOut06]

26. Really? What crystal ball is she looking into?

[Sewsojm]

27. She's a damn fool

Will they ever learn that Shrub doesn't play by the rules, she's a damn fool!!

[Harper_is_Bush]

28. OH FUCK OFF THOSE DEMOCRATS ARE ALL SUPPORTING THIS WAR

I HATE THEM ALL!

INSTEAD OF THEM I WANT...........UH.....NEVERMINDIMJUSTSOPISSEDOFF!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Handsome Pete]

30. And I predict a drastic reduction amongst incumbents

by the middle of 2009. Especially certain arse kissing Democratic incumbents.

Sorry Nancy... you blew it, and I'm all out of 2nd chances. I'll never believe another word that excretes from Pelosi's lips, cause she am Bushes Ho.

[peaches2003]

32. Not because of Nancy

Of course Bush will start removing troops in 2008. It's an election year and the Republicans are forcing his hand. It has nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Nancy, Harry, or all of us that voted for change in 2006.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

34. Everyones acting as if we're not going into Iran.

Sure there'll be a drop in Iraq...our troops will be in Iran. :mad: