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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 01:12 PM
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Baker-Hamilton: White House coming our way
Source: UPI

WASHINGTON, June 12 (UPI) -- The authors of the Baker-Hamilton report on Iraq believe the White House is moving toward embracing the report.

It was issued last fall, and at the time the White House rejected key parts of it -- namely, that the primary mission in Iraq should be training Iraqis; that support for Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki should be conditioned on his performance, and that the White House should go on a diplomatic offensive to win support from the region and world for a stable Iraq, starting with Iran and Syria.

"It looks more and more like the administration is moving toward embracing all of the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group report," said former Secretary of State James Baker, in a panel discussion at the National Press Club Monday. "In fact, the president himself said as much ... when the press asked him -- said, 'Mr. President, if the surge doesn't work, do you have a plan B?' And he said, 'No.' He said, 'That would be a plan B-H, Baker-Hamilton.'"

"I think they're coming our way," agreed Democratic former Rep. Lee Hamilton. "We have a unique set of circumstances, a unique country, unique problems, unique challenges in Iraq, and I think we have to deal with this most difficult public policy problem, how to responsibly remove ourselves over a period of time from Iraq."

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Security_Terrorism/Briefing/2007/06/12/bakerhamilton_white_house_coming_our_way/3943/



Newsweek: WH official claims Bush has no intention of going back to Baker-Hamilton recommendations

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19099768/site/newsweek /


Iraq After 2008
What follows the surge? Will it be ‘Plan B,’ ‘Plan B-H’ (Baker-Hamilton), or something like South Korea? Bush seems as hazy on this as he was on the initial occupation plan. All that’s certain, says a White House official, is that a ‘fairly robust’ U.S. force will long be in Iraq.


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In fact Bush has no intention of going back to Baker-Hamilton, says a senior White House official, who requested anonymity because he is not authorized to speak on the record. Sure, he’s paying a lot more lip service to its recommendations, partly in an effort to gain new bipartisan consensus on Capitol Hill after the White House’s successful effort to thwart a Democrat-led withdrawal plan. But one of the central recommendations of the Baker-Hamilton report called for a dramatic consolidation of the U.S. presence onto a handful of large bases like Balad. There, U.S. air units and special ops would mainly focus on killing Al Qaeda and leave the Iraqis more or less to their own devices. A long-term presence at Balad is still part of the plan—it always was—but the White House official told NEWSWEEK this week that the Baker-Hamilton panel misunderstood the mission. “What Baker-Hamilton didn’t get right is the military feasibility of doing anti-Al Qaeda missions based primarily on special forces operations,” he told me. “That isn’t feasible because Al Qaeda is so entrenched in the population.” When the National Intelligence Estimate “gamed this out,” he said, it concluded that sectarian violence was now so out of control that to allow Shiite reprisals to occur while the Americans remained hunkered down on their bases would only fuel support among the Sunnis for Al Qaeda, which would grow even more entrenched. Hence the surge’s effort to rein in Moqtada al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army and other chief culprits.

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But to do that effectively, U.S. combat brigades needed to be shifted out of Iraq so their officer corps could be turned into trainers. And under the surge, that’s not happening either. To do so, it would mean “a fairly significant change to the (U.S.) force laydown in Iraq,” Maj Gen. Carter Ham, the commandant at Fort Riley, the U.S. Army’s adviser-training center, told me. The big trade-off of the surge that few people are taking note of—what it really has cost us—is that it is taking precious time away from the program to bring the Iraqi Army to readiness. The surge is therefore ensuring that U.S. troops will have to remain longer on the front lines of an intractable sectarian war.

The upshot is there really is no Plan B, or Plan B-H, or indeed anything coherent. The goal is Baker-Hamilton’s “end-state,” but without the training up of Iraqis that would allow the recommended pullout to happen by March 2008. It’s the South Korean occupation without the truce, or a status-of-forces pact. It’s just Iraq, in other words— a quagmire that is as resistant to solutions as ever.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 01:20 PM
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1. Baker-Hamilton: Look Busy!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 01:22 PM
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2. Of course they will
As 2008 approaches, the Republicans will coopt the issue from the Dems and with the help of the corporate media, make them look hapless and indecisive.

It doesn't take a genius to see that coming.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 02:49 PM
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3. Awww, Jimmy and Lee are soooo cute!
They both think they had an effect on Little Boots, and that Commander Bunnypants is coming around to their task force's recommendations. Don't tell them about Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny or they'll cry their little eyes out.

If Bush can kick the can down the street and put off the day of reckoning, he'll do it. If he can make noises that some gullible dupes interpret as coming around on the Iraq Study Group, he'll make those noises. But he won't change a thing. He's going to leave a colossal mess for the next president and the next Congress, then he'll skip merrily on his way. Whether his final destination is the family compound in Maine, his ersatz ranch in Texas or his new land acquisition in Paraguay will depend on how much we respect the rule of law in this country.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 03:11 PM
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4. ... how many soldiers die in the meantime?
... and how much money is funnelled out of (what's left of) the national infrastructure to the war profiteers?


:mad: :mad: :mad:
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 03:18 PM
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5. Too many.
Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 03:20 PM by dogfacedboy
Is that a photo of Ray LaMontagne?

I've never seen his photo, but he looks exactly like I pictured in my minds eye.
I always think it's wild when that happens!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 04:32 PM
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8. Yep, that's Ray
:loveya: I Luvs him :loveya:


:hi:
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 03:18 PM
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6. And it's too late, baby,
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
Though we really did try to make it
Something inside has died and I can't hide
And I just can't fake it
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 03:33 PM
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7. Sheesh. It only matters in..
.. cloud cuckooland.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 04:37 PM
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9. Oh, really?!!1 What about those December, 2006 (2thousand SIX) deadlines?!!1 n/t
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