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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:55 PM
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Joe Lieberman denies warmongering
Source: Jerusalem Post

US Senator Joe Lieberman defended himself Wednesday from criticism that he is pressing for war with Iran, telling The Jerusalem Post he merely wants to strengthen US diplomacy with a credible threat of force.

After Lieberman told CBS's Face the Nation Sunday that the US had to be prepared to use "aggressive military action" against Iran because of its behavior in Iraq, he faced a barrage of criticism that he was warmongering.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, former president Jimmy Carter's national security adviser, said political leaders such as Lieberman, "echoed by some powerful lobbyists, are actually at the moment pushing the military option."

Perceiving the comments as referring to the pro-Israel lobby, the Anti-Defamation League slammed Brzezinski for giving weight to conspiracy theories about Jews hawkishly controlling government policy on Iran.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1181813037115&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull



:rofl::rofl::rofl:
:bounce::bounce::bounce:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:58 PM
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1. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 05:58 PM
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2. I am glad he had to back down.
Thank you to Wes Clark and Brzezinski for speaking up loud and clear and putting pressure on that chickenhawk.
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jenmarie Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:03 PM
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3. Guess Joe heard Wes
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:03 PM
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4. If "Agressive military action" isn't warmongering
then what is? Lieberman is a chump, to put it mildly.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:10 AM
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51. I'm reminded of Anthony Eden's notorious remark during Suez
"We are not at war with Egypt. We are in an armed conflict."
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:05 PM
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5. I'm not a warmonger! I just want to bomb Iran!
Leave me alone! Stop looking at me!

Mommy!!! He's touching me!!!

Love me! Please, love me!!!



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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:08 PM
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6. Joe, Joe, Joe...
You have to admit your a warmonger before you can begin on your road to recovery. As it sits now you're just a failed warmonger in denial. While I have to admit that is better than an pandering warmonger with power. Still, denying you have a problem just proves you're not really serious about quitting.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:31 PM
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15. LOL. General Clark will be on the Ed Scultz show Monday to discuss Lieberlooser's war mongering.
:evilgrin:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:09 PM
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7. so it wasn't joe lieberman talking bombing iran.
it was joe lieberman talking about bombing iran.

my bad.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:10 PM
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8. Brzezinski must be an anti-semite
:sarcasm:

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:22 PM
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9. Now why would you feel the desperate need to say that?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 05:23 AM
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44. MAYBE it was this line:
"Perceiving the comments as referring to the pro-Israel lobby, the Anti-Defamation League slammed Brzezinski for giving weight to conspiracy theories about Jews hawkishly controlling government policy on Iran."

Now you don't even have to say anything directly. You can be INFERRED to be speaking about AIPAC.

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:35 PM
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25. LOL!
;)
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:25 PM
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10. oh, I get it
Joe makes empty threats to Iran in order to fortify our position with a credible show of force. Makes perfect sense.
:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
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pwb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:28 PM
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12. Anti-Semitic to me means shut the fuck up
you can't have conversation about Israel or AIPAC or fox news.
Joe is a great danger to the Israeli people.
problem is we both have fucked up governments,
people from both countries are nice.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 05:25 AM
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45. EXACTLY!!
The Israeli Government is doing the same thing the US government is: playing CYA to the rest of the world.
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pretty_lies Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:30 PM
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13. Pope Denies Catholicism -nt-
-lie
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:30 PM
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14. In Joe's defense...
...at least Feith and Bush are dumber than him. :)
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:25 PM
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23. you had me go'in
for a minute.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:34 PM
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24. Are You Sure About That?
I'll give you Feith, but Bush is not as dumb as he looks. He's just a psychopath with average IQ.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:44 PM
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26. Joe knows how to play the game, Bush was a cheerleader (pardon the football pun)...
...and a pretend cowboy, a pretend Airforce pilot, a pretend 'Average Joe' as it were, a pretend President. Evil smart people don't surround themselves with other evil smart people, they surround themselves with evil dumb sycophants so there's little risk of mutiny. Bush is just the evil dumb monkey installed by evil smart people. All he's missing are the frickin' lasers beams attached to his head.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 03:52 AM
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41. Poor defense that
Rocks are smarter than those two.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 06:50 PM
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16. Said wasn't warmongering...then compared Iran to Hitler and Bin Laden...
The guy is pathetic. If he is for war, then by all means he should make his case for war. Isn't it sad that warmongers are cowardly to call it what it is?
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:08 PM
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18. The man is senile
looking at pix of him in Iraq with the helmet and vest on reminded me of the 88 election photos.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:19 PM
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19. "strengthen US diplomacy with a credible threat of force". . hmmm
Where have I heard THAT before??

Oh yeah. That was the exact same justification for voting for the IWR..
(fool me once, shame on you)
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Speaker Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:36 PM
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33. God forbid we "strengthen US diplomacy with a credible threat of peace" eom
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 07:37 PM
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20. Suggestion:
Today I called Harry Reid's office and asked his aide why Traitor Joe was still on various committees, while at the same time being used by bushcheneyrove as political cover for their illegal occupation - and other issues. I pointed out that Dems want Joe OUT of anything to do with us, and also requested that Harry get meaner, more passionate - not afraid to speak up and fight the bushies. We are behind him, but he has to FIGHT. I said that Congress's approval will go up in porportion to how hard our leaders fight this administration.
Give Harry a call at 202-224-3542 and ask him why Traitor Joe is still on those committees when he votes repub now. We could have a fighting Dem in those seats.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 07:57 AM
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49. I just called
and told them joe isn't a Democrat any longer and should be stripped of any committee assignments as he no longer is a Democrat and doesn't vote for the issues that matter to me.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:04 PM
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21. (((we will define reality for you))) (((we are offended by your efforts to think))) (((sleep)))
fuck you joe, and your real bosses
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:06 PM
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22. He leads the Senate in "defense" industry campaign contributions
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/indus.asp?CID=N00000616&cycle=2006

Those folk make more money when the demons of war are afoot
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:08 PM
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29. I should have known that, but I didn't.
I thought it was all about AIPAC. Probably both forces are involved here.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 08:46 PM
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27. If the warmongering shoe fits.....
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:05 PM
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28. He's an idiot. He doesn't realize that if you threaten people they
don't go away and cower in a corner. They try to find a way to counter your threat with an even bigger threat. Idiot.
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Speaker Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:24 PM
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30. In other news...
Dennis the Menace denies putting frog in punch bowl...
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:25 PM
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31. WTF - he wants to strengthen diplomacy by threatening to bomb the shit out of them.
Oh yeah, that ought to be a real raging success, Joe.

:rofl:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:32 PM
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32. time for Joe to go--- we need a good candidate in CT who can defeat him
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 03:55 AM
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42. Yes, but
given what he's been doing and how open he has been about his alliances, I don't really think he has any plans to run again. I could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking.
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Screwfly Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 09:56 PM
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34. Lieberman and the neo-cons
have gone way beyond warmongering, and now they've in Dr. Strangelove territory with their talk of blowing Iran off the map with nuclear weapons.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 10:19 PM
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35. IBTL
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:32 PM
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36. ho ho joe, we got your number!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:33 PM
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37. Lieberman: I could "definitely" support a Republican in 2008
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 11:35 PM by IndianaGreen
Lieberman: I could "definitely" support a Republican in 2008

Joe Lieberman, asked by Fox's Sean Hannity whether he could see himself supporting a Republican presidential candidate in 2008: "I definitely could, Sean. I mean, I've got to tell you, just to be a -- talk straight to you and those who are listening, so far in all of the debates and public statements, it is certainly the Republican -- the leading Republican candidates for the presidential nomination that I am much more in -- consistent with on the defining issue of our time."

Lieberman singled out John McCain and Rudy Giuliani for praise, and he went out of way of his way to knock John Edwards for saying that the "war on terror" was just a "bumper-sticker slogan." "The Arabs and the Israelis (know) that the war on terror is not a bumper sticker slogan for politics," Lieberman said. "It is a reality that they live with every day. And of course, we should, too."

And when Lieberman says that we should "live with it," he seems to mean that we should "live with it" even more than we already have: In an appearance on "Face the Nation" Sunday, Lieberman said that the United States should take military action against Iran if that country does not end its nuclear program.

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2007/06/11/lieberman/index.html
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-14-07 11:39 PM
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38. Schmuck. n/t
Edited on Thu Jun-14-07 11:40 PM by kgfnally
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 05:30 AM
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46. Schmeckle.
I don't grant him that much "size."
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 01:23 AM
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39. Tough nut to crack.
Perceiving the comments as referring to the pro-Israel lobby, the Anti-Defamation League slammed Brzezinski for giving weight to conspiracy theories about Jews hawkishly controlling government policy on Iran.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 03:50 AM
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40. If Joe Lieberman said the sky was blue
I would have to check the sky and then check again.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 04:30 AM
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43. I can hardly wait until 2008 when more Dems enter the Senate
and this dildo is bucked down to taking lunch orders and picking up dry cleaning.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 06:24 AM
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47. But AREN'T Zionist Jews
controlling our government policy on the Middle East?? :shrug:

"Perceiving the comments as referring to the pro-Israel lobby, the Anti-Defamation League slammed Brzezinski for giving weight to conspiracy theories about Jews hawkishly controlling government policy on Iran."
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 01:59 PM
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57. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gates, Rice....
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 01:59 PM by LeftishBrit
I don't think most of the top directors of America's foreign policy are Jews!

Lieberman is, of course; but mainly he's just a Bush-worshipper.
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 07:22 AM
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48. His nose is growing into a trunk
Now he's employing the typical GOP response to a quote: "I didn't say it", "you misunderstood it". Next comes, "you're soft on defense & enabling the enemy". Diplomacy with bombs. Great. :eyes:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 08:47 AM
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50. Joe-war-mentum become Joe-so-misunderstood
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:29 AM
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52. Brzezinski should tell the ADL morons to STFU
n/t
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:48 AM
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53. The Jerusalem Post? Lieberman hardly helps himself there. The JP is a right wing rag.
It even publishes a "Christian Edition" for the fundy armageddonites.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 01:57 PM
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56. The Jerusalem Post used to be left-wing. Then it was taken over by Conrad Black,
and moved to the right, like everything else Black has had to do with (sigh!).

They must be owned by someone else now, now that Black is having his little legal problems; but not sure who.

My impression, however, is that they are mostly neoliberal right rather than fundy-right, and that every now and then someone reasonable writes for them (Lieberman is not in that category, of course!)
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harlinchi Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 09:49 AM
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54. Gen. Clark's words are not included!
I wonder why. I also wonder why this is a jpost.com article, and not a Hartford Courant or NY Times one. Sen Lieberman went to Iraq and made comments which appear to support the interests of another country, not the interests of the US. Although Lieberman's words were credibly refuted by the response of Gen. Clark, the article (and the ADL) appears to refer only to Mr. Brzezinski.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 10:00 AM
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55. His job is to float trial balloons for the professional warmongers. n/t
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 02:29 PM
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58. isn't this an oxyMORON?
Edited on Fri Jun-15-07 02:30 PM by shireen
merely wants to strengthen US diplomacy with a credible threat of force...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

edited to add ROFL
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 03:33 PM
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59. Hmmm...He's advocated U.S. military action in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria & Iran in 4 years.
All of which are Muslim countries, by the way.

If that isn't warmongering, then pray tell, what exactly is?

In fact, I don't think there is a single member of congress that has suggested military action against all four at the frequency that he does.

Just because Nixon declared he wasn't a crook didn't make it so.

Joe Lieberman is a warmonger.

At least he's no longer Bush's "favorite Democrat" because he is no longer a "Democrat" as he likes to say now.
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 06:23 PM
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60. This just makes me want to puke
Lieberman is so god damn disgusting. What the heck is this scum bag still doing in the democratic party? Why the heck did an otherwise intelligent man like Al Gore select this two-faced, brown nosed son of a pig to be his VP?

It's crap like this that makes me really take a hard look at my political stance. If the democrats haven't kicked his ass out yet, what reason do I have to believe that these bumbling idiots are going to correct any of the more severe issues facing our Nation? We have a congress controlled by dems, but what have we seen as a result? A lot of talk, but precious little action.

We need a new party, a party of the people, I'm sick of these rich bastards. Something liberal, something green, something that will give the "conservatives" nightmares about dooms day and Satan worshippers.

*Continues to ramble until he fades into oblivion*
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 06:38 PM
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61. When the People is ready, the Party will appear.
From an old post of mine:


You Will Meet a Handsome Stranger


In the troubled times ahead, you are going to meet a handsome stranger. He will probably be a newcomer to the world of politics; part of his appeal will be that he is an "outsider," a mystery candidate who seems to emerge on the scene out of nowhere. He will use this to his advantage: since he is not a part of the old and broken system, he is beholden to no one. You won't have to question his allegiances or worry that he is "bought and paid for" or "owned by AIPAC."

He will be charismatic and full of new ideas. All over the country, people from both the left and right will hear things in his platform that they like: national healthcare, end to illegal immigration, environmental protection, a flat tax, additional supports for struggling families. He'll ask for so little from you in return: a vote, maybe a boycott, maybe drop a business contact or a friendship here or there.

He'll promise you a flush economy and a national renewal you had never even dreamed possible. He'll give you hope. He'll be a dynamic speaker, absolutely alive with conviction; he will send the recession packing, raise wages, promise the middle-class prosperity again.

His platform's already written, and he's waiting in the wings for the time just after the Iran crisis, when you will be fed up enough to ask for him and put your trust in him. His name, his party, are yet unknown; but when America "wakes up," he will appear for you.

Tucker
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 06:51 PM
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62. Woops...
Just talked to my dad, apparently, Lieberman is an independant now. My mistake. Somehow stuff like this confuses me. I've been making an effort to avoid any real news lately in order to save what (little) sanity I have remaining. But I can't keep burying my head in the sand... I've got to do *something*. Even if it's just exchanging ideas and ranting here, and trying to vote for the right candidates.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-15-07 07:25 PM
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63. yea, yea, yea, blow it out of your ass, joe
never met a war he didn't like
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