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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 06:04 AM
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With Gaza in crisis, Israeli PM arrives for talks in US
Source: AFP

NEW YORK -- Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert arrived in the United States early Sunday for talks with US President George W. Bush and UN officials expected to be dominated by the Palestinian crisis and concerns about Iran.

He is scheduled to meet with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon later in the day, according to Israeli officials.

On Tuesday, the Israeli leader will meet with the US president at the White House for their third summit in 13 months, following talks with Jewish-American leaders.

With Hamas now in full control of the Gaza Strip after routing forces loyal to Western-backed Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Bush and Olmert are expected to explore ways of bolstering Abbas and containing the crisis.

Before his departure for New York, Olmert said Israel would recognise a Palestinian government that does not contain ministers from Hamas.


Read more: http://www.metimes.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20070617-064945-8685r
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 07:16 AM
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1. I do not think they have a clue as to what to do.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:43 AM
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2. They know how to throw our money at the problem
UN will authorize more US soldiers to put on the blue helmets to beef up the UN contingents they already have "patrolling" and 'keeping secure' those areas.
LOL

imo, the Egyptians need to supply the bulk of the UN contingent on their own border so more US taxpayers money will end up via another UN mandate comming up for a vote this week......

The Palestian refugees will become "refugees" in the comming days so the Red Cross can hit the world up for donations in order to open up tent cities in Egypt's Sanai.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:49 AM
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3. There'll be refugees, all right.
Lots of 'em.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:47 AM
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9. I agree
The two party system in Gaza;

Hamas executes Palestians by beheading and firing squad who's crime was to draw a subsidy paycheck from the Fatah paymaster.

They are eating their own but I'm not sure the world wants to see it that way.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:24 AM
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6. How horribly misleading -- the $8+ billion in U.S. tax dollars go to Israel, who is "witholding $372
million of the Palestinians own money. You seem to have where the U.S. money goes exactly wrong.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:41 AM
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8. We also heavily subsidize Egypt with billions a yr since the Camp David accord
Arafat stole the Palestinian money and squirreled it away in Swiss bank accounts

$300 million

http://www.globalpolicy.org/nations/launder/regions/2003/1109swiss.htm

Why do you give him a free pass?
cuz he's dead and Hamas just looted his house?


Hamas only knows war. They don't do peace

/ out

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 10:09 AM
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11. Isn't that why the Palestinians
voted for Hamas -- because they agreed with you that Fatah and Palestinian leadership is corrupt, just the like the dictatorship the US supports in Egypt.

Damn if they do and damned if they don't huh? Imagine that -- Palestinians voting out their corrupt government.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:03 AM
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16. So you are admitting that more money -- by factors of ten -- go to Israel from the U.S.
You still don't get it, do you? Israel demonized and undermined Arafat in order to avoid cutting a deal with him, and now they must deal with a group far worse than Arafat.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:50 AM
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4. sure they do.
they will hold a "serious" press conference, bragging about how they are working together as partners, and how well they expect their new plans to succeed.

Then, they will go back to more of the same.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:50 AM
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10. Are you talking about those that are on the campaign trail of '08 ?
your comment hits that nail right on the head but other then that it'll be
<crickets> from them.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 06:01 PM
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12. das ist un gud point.
I'd put it in french, but my french sucks almost as bad as my german.


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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:09 PM
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13. Tout n'est pas rose dans la vie
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:18 AM
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15. They will Fail they Are failing and they will FAIL over and over
again because Darkness destroys itself and thats whats going on they are destroying themselves

Corruption Greed can't guide and inspire men to die for them

thats why they will fail
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:23 AM
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5. If the crisis is with the Palestinians, why not meet with the Palestinians?
Why the fuck not meet with the people who are having the problem?

Bush/Neocons demanded democracy and elections. Democracy and elections gave them Hamas. Now they aren't happy with that.

It seems that the whole "spreading democracy" propaganda was a ruse, a dressed-up bright and shining lie, to further oppress and deny self-determination to the Palestinians.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:35 AM
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7. You like to overlook the most obvious problem
"Why the fuck not meet with the people who are having the problem?"


oh... is it bc
Hamas wil not sit down to talk ?

The Palestinians voted to get rid of the Fatah status quo dysfuntional government.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 09:04 AM
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17. Bullshit. If the U.S. called for talks with Hamas, they would show up tomorrow.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:08 AM
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14. Israel seeks European support to isolate Gaza
Israel seeks European support to isolate Gaza
By Allyn Fisher-Ilan

JERUSALEM, June 18 (Reuters) - Israel sought on Monday to shore up European support for a U.S.-backed strategy of isolating Hamas in Gaza while freeing funds for President Mahmoud Abbas's emergency cabinet in the occupied West Bank.

Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni said she would try to persuade European Union foreign ministers in talks in Strasbourg, France on Monday to continue a year-old aid boycott against the Islamist Hamas which refuses to recognise Israel.

In New York, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert promised to bolster Abbas and said Israel would release frozen tax revenues and "take perhaps more risks" in cooperating with Abbas's government.

The Bush administration plans to lift a ban on direct aid to the Abbas's government this week.

Washington wants to accelerate talks on Palestinian statehood between Olmert and Abbas in the West Bank while isolating Hamas economically, diplomatically and militarily in the Gaza Strip.

Some European diplomats have expressed misgivings about the new U.S.-Israeli strategy. "It may solve the problems of today," said on senior EU diplomat. "But what about the future?"

more;http://wap.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18155947.htm
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