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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:26 PM
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Bush plans to veto stem cell bill
Source: AP

WASHINGTON - Pushing back against the Democratic-led Congress, President Bush intends to veto a bill Wednesday that would have eased restraints on federally funded embryonic stem cell research — work that supporters say holds promise for fighting disease.

At the same time, Bush will discuss at a White House event his efforts to encourage work that could make additional stem cell lines available for research, presidential spokesman Tony Fratto said Tuesday.

The president has accused majority Democrats of recycling an old measure that he already vetoed and argued that the bill would mean American taxpayers would — for the first time — be compelled to support the deliberate destruction of human embryos.

"The president supports and encourages stem cell research — including using embryonic lines — as long as it does not involve creating, harming or destroying embryos," Fratto said. "That is an ethical line that should not be crossed."

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Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_stem_cells



Now here is an example of an issue where the Democrats are keeping a campaign promise and standing up to Bush, something they did not do on the war bill. And OK, they will lose, as the veto will be sustained. That's fine, but at least the American people have a clear, crisp sense of what the two parties believe on this issue. And the voters can sort it all out in 2008.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 09:33 PM
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1. Killer George strikes again.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 10:01 PM
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2. Its outrageous, but so is casey the Democratic senator from Pennsilvania who voted against it
We are on the threshold of something that potentially can save MILLIONS OF LIVES

Funny how these morans have no problem with invitro fertilization.

These are not viable humans at that stage

Whenever we were at the threshold of great discoveries, you always had a group, and usually who spoke in the name of religion, to protest and impead those discoveries

The U.S. is no longer the center of the universe, and other countries which support this research will leave us in the dust

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 10:41 PM
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3. Couldn't one of those stem cells be from Bush
And when he vetos the law he VETOS himself and forever disappears?
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 11:06 PM
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4. wow..HRC has given me another reason to vote for her
"Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton appeared in Hanover, N.H., this week with a child who has diabetes and a paralyzed 23-year-old to urge Bush not to veto the bill. Last month, the issue was a topic at a debate with Republican presidential hopefuls in California."

I probably will not make a decision on who to support in the primaries for another six months, but this will be something I'll remember! :woohoo:
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 11:13 PM
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5. Bush owes nothing to nobody now....
...he's 29% in the polls. The only base he has left, is the one who loves his fundie stances. What does he have to lose. Anyone who thinks he's going to compromise on anything, is deluding themselves. This administration is more dangerous than ever.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 11:20 PM
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6.  needed to override a veto. The Senate cleared the bill earlier by a margin that was
The bill Bush is vetoing passed Congress on June 7, drawing the support of 210 House Democrats and 37 Republicans. That was 35 votes fewer than needed to override a veto. The Senate cleared the bill earlier by a margin that was one vote shy of the two-thirds needed to overcome Bush's objections.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 11:20 PM
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7. What the f*ck is his problem?
He does everything he can to do the most damage in the time he has left in office. I hate that son of a bitch!
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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8. Bush to veto stem cell bill today
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - President Bush has chosen to use his veto pen three times — twice on the stem cell issue where politics, ethics and science collide. Pushing back against the Democratic-led Congress, Bush plans to veto a bill Wednesday that would have eased restraints on federally funded embryonic stem cell research, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said.

At the same time, Bush will issue an executive order directing the Health and Human Services Department to promote research into cells that, like human embryonic stem cells, also hold the potential of regenerating into different types of cells that might be used to battle disease.

Democrats made the stem cell legislation Bush promised to veto a top priority when they took control of the House and Senate in January. They do not, however, have enough votes to override a veto.

"This is just one example of how the president puts ideology before science, politics before the needs of our families, just one more example of how out of touch with reality he and his party have become," Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., told the Take Back America conference of liberal activists Wednesday.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070620/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_stem_cells;_ylt=AgWBScktQMOX34oeVbywaias0NUE
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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9. Go for it W
Welcome to the teens in approval ratings. Hope you get Parkinson's or diabetes.
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Mark_Pogue Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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10. The Bush Administration
and science are like "oil and water".
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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11. Oh they like "High Energy Physics" science
Nuclear weapons, lasers, anti missle missles, and space weapons.
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Mark_Pogue Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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12. Things that
destroy!!}(
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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14. They like geology too
Petroleum Geology .... oh look Saudi Arabia is no longer #1 for proven oil reserves .....
but Iraq is now #1 in the world. Do you think Cheney's little "energy task force,"
talked about this in March of 2001?



Oh look there is a pipeline into Saudi Arabia ..... Guess they like engineering too.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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13. Exactly!
You know, science that can be used in conflict to kill people! But as for science, or anything else for that matter, that helps or saves people (outside of the womb), fuhgeddaboutit!!!

And how do they call this "pro-life," exactly?

:mad:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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15. i read that te Senate is one vote short of a vote to sustain the veto
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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16. 579 more days Chimpy!
Hope the week of Jan 20, 2009 this is among the first bills sitting on our new Dem President's desk to sign!
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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 01:18 PM
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17. Such a good man
Protecting the sanctity of human life and spreading peace and freedom throughout the world. :sarcasm:
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