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democratic Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:27 PM
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Iran stays an execution by stoning
Source: Guardian

Iranian authorities have halted the planned stoning to death of a man and woman convicted of adultery following international protests, it emerged tonight.

Mokarrameh Ebrahimi and an unnamed man, who have spent 11 years in prison, were due to be killed tomorrow in a cemetery in the town of Takestan in western Iran.

Western diplomats in Tehran and organisations including Amnesty International and Human Rights' Watch had condemned the executions.

The pits in which Ms Ebrahimi and the man were to be placed had reportedly already been dug. According to the Iranian penal code, men should be buried up to their waists and women up to their breasts.


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2107534,00.html
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OldschoolDem Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:28 PM
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1. Any person who would stone another human being to death
is an animal. Plain and simple. Some people just have no respect for human life.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:34 PM
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2. looks like ordinary citizens do the killing!!
The code also states that the stones used should "not be large enough to kill the person by one or two strikes; nor should they be so small that they could not be defined as stones".

The stoning was due to take place in public, reportedly in the presence of a judge, who was due to cast the first stone. Those present at the gathering were to continue the stoning until the pair were pronounced dead.

"Execution by stoning aggravates the brutality of the death penalty, being specifically designed to increase the victim's suffering since the stones are deliberately chosen to be large enough to cause pain, but not so large as to kill the victim immediately," Amnesty said.

Ayatollah Shahroudi, the head of Iran's judiciary, ordered a moratorium on execution by stoning in 2002, pending a decision on a permanent change in the law, apparently being considered by Iran's supreme leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:37 PM
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13. These people need to be taken in by a free country that will respect
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 01:39 PM by The Backlash Cometh
them and give them political asylum.

Obviously, that rules out the U.S.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:46 PM
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4. actually, most "animals" have more respect for human life...
This saying has always annoyed me... Humans are animals, after all. Not to mention that many species of animals are far less instinctively violent and aggressive than humans.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 04:58 AM
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19. Monsters is what they are.

lets not insult the animal kingdom by comparing them to these savages.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:32 PM
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12. War Criminal Geo Bush killed hundreds in Texas
Remember how he mocked that woman as he signed her death warrant.

We execute behind closed doors


http://www.crimemagazine.com/davis2.htm


Above is Thug Governor Jeb Bushes FRYING of Tiny Davis
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:50 PM
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14. If you have a strong stomach and access to YouTube...
...you can see Doua Khalil get stoned to death by what looks like an entire village, most of them recording it on their cellphones. Violence against women as some sort of community redemptive act is, sadly, all too human, and all too common. Look at how many myths and religions are based on it.
:(
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 09:37 PM
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3. Islam and the ME need to put their BARBARIAN ways aside.........
and help make this entire planet a civil place.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:06 PM
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5. Among the first names of God
are The Compassionate, The Beneficent, The Merciful.

(Spellings vary.)
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:10 PM
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6. It's their land and their law
"Whereupon Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing publicly to expose her, was minded to put her away privately."

The Jewish and Islamic law have been on the books a lot longer than we have been a nation. However, if you wish to change the world, then WE must do so by example. Violence begets violence. And right now the world sees us not as a victim, but villain.

We have nothing to say about anything until we clean our own house.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 10:44 PM
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7. Who's "we"?
Speak for yourself. No one needs anyone else's permission to voice their opinion.
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:44 PM
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16. It's their land and their law?!
There is a certain point where that doesn't matter. How could you justify a stoning in any case, especially for something like adultery, by saying it's their laws? There are certain moral absolutes, and this is one of them. There is no justification for the death penalty in any culture, especially not the death penalty in such a cruel way. Makes the electric chair or even the firing squad seem pleasant.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 09:07 PM
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17. Um - The last time Jews had a stoning was in Monty Python's
"Life of Brian". And Judaism has adapted to modern world since its origins over 4000 years ago (no, I am not Jewish). Islam is still stuck in the 7th Century, when it originated. The Torah and Sharia law are vastly different and it sounds like you are presenting them as interchangable.

This has nothing to do with Jews, so I don't know why you bring them up. This has everything to do with human rights abuses committed in the name of backward religious laws interpreted by hateful, misogynistic imams who use their faith (just as the Christian Fundamentalists do in this Country) to control and dominiate anybody who doesn't live according to their dictates.

And anybody who participates in or condones this barbaric act is a sick fuck.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-22-07 10:53 PM
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18. Um....
"Hey. Sorry that you're about to get murdered by people throwing stones at you just because you made love to someone you weren't married to. But a guy named George W. Bush just dropped a bomb on some people and killed them, and somehow, this is a reason for me not to try to help you."
:wtf:
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-23-07 01:05 PM
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20. This tired argument AGAIN!
Just because the United States is guilty of crimes does NOT mean that morally we are unable to speak out against the crimes of other nations.

Jiminy Christmas! I suppose we should not have fought the Nazis, because Jim Crow laws were still in place during WW2

:eyes:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 11:14 PM
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8. Interesting that Iranian officials deny it was ever scheduled.
"An Iranian justice official denied that any such stoning had been planned." snip "Ayatollah Shahroudi, the head of Iran's judiciary, ordered a moratorium on execution by stoning in 2002..." snip "There were no cases of stoning reported between 2002 and 2006, although Amnesty recorded cases carried out after May 2006, when a woman and a man were believed to have been stoned to death."

After the incubator story and the human shredding machine story and the lie about Ahmadenijad denying the Holocaust and calling for Israel to be wiped off the map... let's just say I have trouble believing stories about Iran these days. Too many people trying to spread lies to start wars. Maybe it was scheduled, maybe it wasn't... We've just seen this all before for me to believe a story they are denying.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 04:31 AM
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9. Iran claims to have suspended stonings in 2002.
They claim that no sentences of this nature have been carried out since that time. I hope that is true. I also hope they take the step of abolishing the death penalty entirely.

A noteworthy aspect of the Iranian stoning sentences is the misogyny. Solidarity with the women of Iran, who must deal with such repression while also guarding against US war moves.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 11:49 AM
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10. Solidarity, well said. K & R nt
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 01:20 PM
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11. The woman is identified - the man is not????
They have been in prison 11 years for adultery.

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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:09 PM
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15. That's mighty white of them.
:sarcasm:
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