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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:55 AM
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Zimbabwe Seeks ‘Indigenous’ Control of Companies
Source: ny times

JOHANNESBURG, June 26 — Zimbabwe’s government has put forward legislation that would require virtually all publicly traded companies to cede controlling interests to “indigenous” citizens, raising the possibility of a sizable redistribution of the country’s remaining wealth at a time when its economy is collapsing.

The draft legislation, which was published Monday, would mandate that a 51 percent stake in the companies be transferred to Zimbabweans who were “disadvantaged by unfair discrimination on the grounds of his or her race” before April 1980, when the nation won independence from white rule.

The government calls it a plan for black empowerment, while critics label it a bid to shore up crumbling political support for Zimbabwe’s president, Robert G. Mugabe. Given that Mr. Mugabe’s party dominates Parliament, the measure will almost certainly pass.

The legislation would establish a government fund to help citizens buy stock in public companies, and would allow the government to reject any corporate mergers, acquisitions, investments and other transactions in which so-called indigenous Zimbabweans did not hold a 51 percent stake. It was unclear, however, how Zimbabwe’s bankrupt government, beset by hyperinflation and a currency crisis, would finance the transfe


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I'm sure this will end well.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 09:58 AM
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1. I think this is the only way to go for emerging countries to go. We
here in the US are trying to fight the corporations and getting no where. Imagine what those same corporations are doing to weaker nations.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:47 AM
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13. uhh... no,
Mugabe has decimated the entire professional class of the country, black and white and has decimated the entire farming industry, black and white to turn the spoils over to his illiterate roaming thugs who are incapable of anything but looting.

The "veterans" who have received the land seized from the white and black farmers aren't doing shit with it, and the country is starving.

Zimbabwe would kill to be Rhodesia again,
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:00 AM
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2. This guy is a murderous despot.
He is no hero to the people.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:20 AM
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5. Agreed -- and all this will do is result in more bloodshed and a worse economy
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:10 PM
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6. Ian Smith
left the country in shambles,now you blame the black guy.Nice try,but thats BS.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:23 PM
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7. you have got to be kidding me
He's a couple tasty human livers short of Idi Amin, but this thug is no hero. More akin to Mobuto. Yeah - Mugabe has really stood for progress (and progressive values) in Zimbabwe... :eyes:



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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:55 AM
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14. When Ian Smith returned in 2000 he was welcomed quite warmly,
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 12:59 AM by policypunk
and when Mugabe's thugs showed up at the Smith farm they were run off by other blacks, nobody really has a problem with him anymore.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 09:08 AM
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17. Mugabe in Power Over 20 Years
Robert Mugabe inherited Zimbabwe from the Ian Smith regime. At the time of independence, Zimbabwe had a healthy agricultural sector than could and did export grain, cattle, and coffee. Despite the Mugabe regime's brutal repression of Matabele dissension, the Zimbabwean economy continued to grow and thrive for a time. Blaming Ian Smith and the former regime for Zimbabwe's current troubles doesn't cut it.

Since then, Mugabe and his party decimated Zimbabwe's agricultural sector to maintain his own political power. Zimbabwe no longer exports grain, and half of the population is in danger of starvation. Zimbabwe no longer exports coffee. Zimbabwe's famed heat-resistant cattle breeds are in danger of extinction, if they aren't dead already.

Sure, Zimbabwean whites are still privileged, even in persecution. They can at least flee Zimbabwe with life and limbs intact. If they were ethnic Matabeles or dissident Zimbabwean Africans, they could be beaten, jailed, tortured, and worse.

I think that Mugabe should be held responsible for what happened in Zimbabwe since then, just as I think that lilly-white dictators like Chile's Pinochet, Argentina's Videla, Serbia's Milosevic ought to be held accountable for their actions.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 08:21 AM
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21. Oh brother
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:06 AM
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3. Sounds like they read
Atlas Shrugged and decided to do what made the economy collapse there.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 10:17 AM
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4. Hey, it worked with agriculture (well, there is a slight problem with refugees)
so why not use the same logic on the commercial sector.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/23/world/africa/23zimbabwe.html?_r=1&ref=africa&oref=slogin

"Many more Zimbabweans slip into the country undetected, although estimates vary wildly. In a nation of 46 million, most experts say, undocumented Zimbabweans could number several hundred thousand to two million."

"Unquestionably, the Zimbabweans are victims first. A rising number claim to be refugees from persecution by President Robert G. Mugabe’s police and by supporters of his ruling party, the Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front. Just six Zimbabweans sought political asylum in South Africa in 2001; last year, the total was nearly 19,000, more than a third of all asylum applications in South Africa.

But most are fleeing privation, not persecution. Zimbabwe’s annual inflation rate was officially 4,530 percent in May; economists say it is at least twice that. Industries are operating at barely 30 percent of capacity, unemployment exceeds 80 percent and a disastrous harvest is likely to leave up to four million in need of food aid this year.

A memorandum prepared by 34 international aid agencies, including the United Nations and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, predicted this month that the country’s economy would cease to function by the end of this year."

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 01:39 PM
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8. A possibly good idea from a not-so-good government.
Domestic economic control is a basic democratic demand of developing countries. Let the developed country multinationals make a profit, but make sure they know who's boss on the final analysis.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-27-07 06:47 PM
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9. Translation: Mugabe wants his cronies to control the companies.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:45 AM
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10. Makes sense ...
... the cronies have wasted the stolen farms so they might as well waste
some stolen companies too and f*ck up what's left of the country even more.

:think:
Maybe they can get some business advice from little Bush? That would help ...
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 11:20 PM
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12. If it's a choice of cronies, I'd rather have a Zimbabwean's cronies controlling
Zimbabwean companies than the cronies of a Goldman Sachs partner or of a Carlyle Group partner.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 AM
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15. yeah, they have done a fucking great job with the "bread basket of Africa"
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:53 AM
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16. I think it was the bread basket for Tescos, but, whatever.
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 07:54 AM by 1932
They used to export almost everything they made while Zimbabweans got little of the food or profits.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 11:09 PM
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11. never fails
why is it that you always have posters on here defending dictators?

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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:05 PM
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18. One more source of graft for Mugabe.
The guy is a monster.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 12:48 AM
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19. What is an example of graft in Zimbabwe for which Mugabe is responsible?
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 04:12 AM
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20. oh other than his thugs taking over every farm in the country?
The gangs who are occupying farms are common criminals, who loot the farms and sell the equipment to scrap dealers in South Africa. These are not black farm workers turning on their white bosses and running the farm themselves. The black farmers are usually killed by Mugabe's gangs as they try to protect the farm from the looters.

Those defending Mugabe got a little too much post-colonial bullshit in university and are the same people who think their Che hoodie is making some sort of statement on human rights.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 08:23 AM
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22. Your last paragraph almost ruined my keyboard, dammit
Irish Breakfast tea all over the place.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 09:02 AM
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23. Links?
Edited on Sat Jun-30-07 09:03 AM by 1932
Just to be clear. I'm not defending him. I just want to make sure I have my facts straight.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 09:23 PM
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25. Support Capitalism!
Buy pictures of Communists!
:crazy:
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 02:32 PM
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24. Lies,lies and more lies
by the western media,don't let facts get in the way of racist lies.
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