Romney's Cruel Canine Vacation

[TeddyKGB]

Source: TIME Magazine

The reporter intended the anecdote that opened part four of the Boston Globe's profile of Mitt Romney to illustrate, as the story said, "emotion-free crisis management": Father deals with minor — but gross — incident during a 1983 family vacation, and saves the day. But the details of the event are more than unseemly — they may, in fact, be illegal.

The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier — with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it — to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus's rather visceral protest.

Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon." An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out." The officer, Nadia Branca, declined to give a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law but did note that it's against state law to have a dog in an open bed of a pick-up truck, and "if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it, that would be illegal." And while it appears that the statute of limitations has probably passed, Stacey Wolf, attorney and legislative director for the ASPCA, said "even if it turns out to not be against the law at the time, in the district, we'd hope that people would use common sense...Any manner of transporting a dog that places the animal in serious danger is something that we'd think is inappropriate...I can't speak to the accuracy of the case, but it raises concerns about the judgment used in this particular situation."

Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, was less circumspect. PETA does not have a position on Romney's candidacy per se, but Newkirk called the incident "a lesson in cruelty that was ... wrong for to witness...Thinking of the wind, the weather, the speed, the vulnerability, the isolation on the roof, it is commonsense that any dog who's under extreme stress might show that stress by losing control of his bowels: that alone should have been sufficient indication that the dog was, basically, being tortured." Romney, of course, has expressed support for the use of "enhanced interrogation" techniques when it comes to terrorists; his campaign did not return repeated calls and emails about the treatment of his dog...

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

[aquart]

1. He did. He tortured that terrified dog.

And it never occurred to him to be concerned or care. The dog was property, luggage.

[orleans]

19. ah, a prick without a conscience. just what america needs.

another one!

kill me!

what a fucking sociopath.

[barb162]

22. That's correct. The family should have strapped Romney there

and let the dog ride inside. It would have served him right.

[The Brethren]

113. It's never

too late for Romney; for the dog however unfortunately it is. They could still hoist his fat butt up on the family car, strap and gag the worthless piece of crap to it and take a few vacation spins around the nation during the sweltering heat. I hear the Grand Canyon is a lovely place to visit this time of year. hehehehe.

[IndyOp]

45. What also shocks me: The reporter thought it was a nice anecdote...

Complementary even to Romney -

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

:grr:

[Gormy Cuss]

60. I'm guessing that at least one of those reporters knew this would blow up.

It's the Boston Globe after all. I doubt that Romney to this day sees any problem with what he did and the reporter picked up on that.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

65. Well, Mitts' son "Tagg" told the tale

and LOL, what kind of a person names his son "Tagg" and his dog "Seamus".
What a retard.

[Shallah Kali]

114. yep it shows what kind of man Mitt is that he can clean up his mess so swiftly

no need to let dog torture get you down! Just hose down the car and get back on with your day like nothing important happened. :sarcasm:

[DBoon]

54. As he treats his dog

he will treat the rest of us

[MannyGoldstein]

2. He'd Do That To People, Too

As a Mass. resident, I can assure you that he is a hideously dangerous person. If he wins the presidency, he'll make Bush look like an amateur.

[Fearless]

9. I wouldn't go THAT far

but he's a moron nonetheless.

[aquart]

27. Really? I would.

[sallyseven]

44. I agree he would.

[mwb970]

35. Don't underestimate Romney's badness.

He's just as evil as Bush, but smarter. Just what we don't need.

[yardwork]

50. He SAYS he would do worse to humans!

Romney is in favor of using torture to interrogate prisoners. He'd do a lot worse than strapping an animal to the top of a car.

The man is obviously a psychopath.

[The Stranger]

63. Then wake up.

He would go much, much farther.

[Sequoia]

70. Tell us more.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

3. Mitt's one of those guys that puts the "thug" in "rethuglican".

I guess the poor dog is no longer around. Maybe in Mitt's next life, Seamus will be his master.

[TeddyKGB]

4. No wonder he wants to "double Guantanamo"

I don't even think they could come up with something this bad.

[CoffeeCat]

5. Didn't Chevy Chase play Romney...

in a movie based on this trip?

Ah yes, Mitt Romney--traveling transAmerica in the family truckster---with
a dog dragging behind the bumper and his wife's dead aunt tied to the roof.

Does Romney's wife know her husband has a thing for pool waitresses?

And what about Cousin Eddy--is that plate in his head still troubling him?

[Pirate Smile]

6. The Romney family is now the Griswolds.

[ShortnFiery]

28. Nah, the mythical Griswald dad ACCIDENTALLY forgot the dog, Mitt latched it to the roof ON PURPOSE.

:grr: :puke: :thumbsdown:

[liberal N proud]

36. That was my thought as I was hearing this on the radio this AM.

Clark W. Romney

[Carni]

73. Eddie Murphy strapped a guinea pig to the roof of his SUV

In Dr Doolittle...but after all the guinea pig WAS giving him a bunch of lip!

[slampoet]

103. Guys, that is just a movie. I thought y'all would be able to tell the difference by now.

In real life, animal abuse is a red-hot precursor to child abuse.

[CoffeeCat]

116. I totally agree with you...

Anyone who can treat animals with total disregard--is also likely to treat
human beings with total disregard.

I've read many studies that demonstrate that serial killers abused animals
as children. That's because animals (and sometimes younger children) are
the young person's only potential for prey. As psychopaths and serial
killers age, they are able to victimized adults as well. Scary stuff.

If someone is so insensitive and lacking in compassion, when it comes to
animals--I have a hard time believing that they treat human beings (especially
children) any better.

I concur with you. I guess we should all remember though, that Clark Griswold
accidentally tied that dog to the bumper and dragged it for miles. Romney made
a conscious decision to behave like a crass, compassion-lacking oaf.

[slampoet]

120. Right on.

[byronius]

7. K & R.

[rpannier]

8. Kind of like scrub-yas emotion free crisis management

I cause the problem and am totally unfazed by the problems it caused (causes).

[The Brethren]

10. What a sick bastard.

Looks like he also broke the law, so why isn't he being charged? I'm guessing due to their statues of limitation? And why won't Officer Branca state whether he broke the law or not? It's not that complicated, it's called common sense.

[Skittles]

23. I would for sure describe such a person as sick

no empathy for a living creature; certainly no feelings this pet was "part of the family" :puke:

[The Brethren]

24. I'm still amazed

that he did that. At first I thought this was a joke. And the gull of him not to even consider that someone else might notice a poor dog strapped to the top of his vehicle in a cage.

[louis-t]

75. "statues of limitations" !!!!

:rofl: Made me laugh out loud with a mouthful of lunch!

[The Brethren]

112. Good reason

to always keep a napkin on hand.

[Wildewolfe]

90. Two possibilities come to mind...

...

1 - statue of limitations (almost assuragely true)

2 - it happened in 1983 and wasn't illegal then. (very likely as well... very few rights for animals back then)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

94. "Statute" which means law.

Not "statue". That is all from the Grammar/Spelling Police. Thank you.

[The Brethren]

108. why thank you

what would we do w/o the spelling police. LOL

[The Brethren]

109. That is

what I was thinking. And if so, then there is probably nothing that can be done about it, except public ridicule.

[maggiegault]

11. People who are cruel to animals should be shot. Period.

[jpgray]

12. Killing people to punish cruelty

It's worked so well for so long.

[maggiegault]

15. Whatever, clever one. I am so sorry that you are incapable of understanding what "facetious" means.

[jpgray]

17. I wasn't sure if you were exaggerating to make your point or not

And I don't think what I said was very clever. :D Oh wait! That was facetious too.

[muffin1]

42. I agree

I truly feel like throwing up. His behavior is utterly disgusting. :puke: How can these morons not care about living creatures? A family pet, no less!
BTW, my stupid asshole Republican boss (I've referred to him in a few posts) bought a hamster for his children a few months ago. Well, the hamster got really sick. He wouldn't eat, so boss's wife tried feeding it with a bottle - but to no avail. Not only would boss not take the poor animal in for treatment, he wouldn't take him in to be put down, either. "He'll die eventually; no way am I spending money taking a HAMSTER to the vet", said the asshole. The asshole is very rich, I might add, and lives in a gated community. Man, did I ever let him have it! Didn't help, he still let the poor thing die a slow death.
:cry:

Thank God I finally put in my notice, and will be free of that f*cker once and for all!:bounce:

[tnlefty]

97. Welcome to DU, muffin1!

My middle child wanted a guinea pig for a pet when he was 5 (14 yrs. old now) and it got sick. We took it to the vet who had to consult books, make phone calls, etc., anyway, we ended up with medicine and a powder that I had to mix with Caro syrup every 3 hrs! I thought that I was back in the days of having a newborn infant and it was a long haired guinea pig so he had to be washed up because of the sticky, yucky mess. He pulled through just fine though. I can't imagine someone who won't even take an animal to the vet to try to determine what is wrong with it and to euthanize the animal when necessary.

Good luck on your new job! :hi:

[muffin1]

100. Thanks!

I just LOVE it here!:hi:

[badgerpup]

13. HELLO???

Hey Mittens...
I don't care if Sean WAS 'only a dog'...you do NOT tie live creatures on the roof of the car and then drive down the road for twelve hours!!
:nuke:

Nothing about a 'potty break' or stopping to see if he needed water or anything either.
Some people really do not deserve to have non-human animals around them. No respect...:grr:

[Divine Discontent]

14. #10 of many more K&R's I would think! what a sick thing to do!

Romney, how could you?


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<--- top 08 items

[The Brethren]

20. he could

because he's a disgusting person and who sees nothing wrong with it. I tend to be an eye for eye person....or an ear. I think the courts should hold him accountable for animal cruelty, but save the taxpayers money and find out what his worst Fear Factor is, then leave him along with it for a few hours of uninterrupted horror. It might be a small wake-up call him.

[Divine Discontent]

25. whew...

you don't mess around sister! :)

exactly, to not have enough BRAINS to know that a dog is going to be TERRIFIED to near death by being put on top of a speeding car! what an asshat...


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff

[The Brethren]

111. Yes.

I'm a feisty femme with razor sharp shoes. If only the law would allow us to handle things a little bit more like the old fashion way now and then, I'd have a fun day with Romney. :D

[flvegan]

16. PETA v Romney

Quite the quandry for some, I suspect.

[Kali]

53. why is that a quandry?

Just because one asshole thinks another is an asshole? It can happen. Thinking adults can share the same opinion as lunatics on occasion. Doesn't make the lunatics right about everything else they spew.

[Beaverhausen]

72. Yeah, I noted

no PETA bashing this time.

:crazy:

[whistle]

18. Now, let's see, just which ancient Olympics Sporting tradition

...would this event most resemble?

<snip>
As organizer of the Salt Lake City Olympic Games, Romney came under fire from some animal welfare groups for including a rodeo exhibition as part of the Games' festivities. At the time, he told protesters, "We are working hard to make this as safe a rodeo for cowboys and animals as is humanly possible."
<end snip>


:eyes:


Uhmmm :think:




I know...dwarf throwing :crazy:



:wtf:

[WindRavenX]

21. I wish I could say this suprised me...

But knowing Romney, this is exactly what you get :puke:

[6000eliot]

26. Jesus Christ!

Is that fucker insane?

[Roland99]

29. I assume that's a rhetorical question.

What a cruel bastard.

[Sancho]

30. He fits right in with...

other psycho's who torture animals.

[Oilwellian]

31. An Irish Setter?

That had to be a HUGE carrier on top of that van. Poor puppy. I can't wait to see the photoshops that evolve from this story.

[Divernan]

38. Irish setters are not a particularly calm breed - they're very excitable

Obviously and predictably, the animal totally panicked. Also, station wagons have plenty of room to have a dog ride INSIDE the car - particularly if the LUGGAGE was put in a luggage carrier strapped to the top.

[pink-o]

80. I had 2 Irish Setter hounds in the 70s

...before they were completely inbred and stupid. Those dogs slept on the bed with me, lay down in the bathroom when I soaked in the tub, sprawled across my lap when I watched TV (not that I could see any shows with red tails wagging in my face) and ran trails with me every day. Point I'm making: I was a teenager back then, and if my father had tied them onto the roof, I would have refused to go anywhere, I would have held those dogs on my lap and sat on the floor of the car if that's what it took.

So, yeah, Romney is a hateful psychopathic bastard, but WTF is wrong with kids who let their beloved pet be treated in such a heinous fashion? Is the whole family fucked up or what????

[Doremus]

85. My thought too.

The kid just says it like, hey, everybody straps their family pet to the roof, but my dad does it better than your dad.

What a bizarre family (that's the kindest thing I can think of to say).

[CrispyQ]

87. Me too. If my parents had suggested something so mean & stupid

I would have carried on like the total brat I could be until my dog was in the car with me.

Fuck Romney. What an asshole.

[customerserviceguy]

101. They grew up Mormon

You don't question Dad in a family like that. You even learn to see his quirks as 'normal' when you're relating the dysfunctional family stories twenty-five years later...

[Nevernose]

117. A lot of Mormons would be horrified at what he did.

It's the autocratic conservatism that you're blaming, not the religion itself (not that I'm a big fan of the religion, either, but still).

I remember going to a Kerry rally, and meeting a lot of coworkers who I knew to be Mormon, who also swore me to secrecy that they'd been there.

I guess the point I'm trying to make isn't that Mitt Romney is an asshole because he's a Mormon, he's an asshole because he thinks it's perfectly okay to lash an Irish Setter to the top of a station wagon.

[tbyg52]

32. He's obviously either heartless or an idiot.

Should fit right in with the prevailing DC culture.

[whopis01]

48. I disagree...

there is the third possibility that he is both heartless and an idiot.

[tbyg52]

79. I stand corrected. nt

[Vinca]

33. What a heartless, rich creep. nt

[mwb970]

34. You wouldn't think Republicans could surprise me any more.

Unspeakable cruelty is apparently lodged deep in the DNA of Republican "leaders". This story reveals Romney as a heartless prick, rather like Giuliani. No wonder Republicans don't like their choices for president! I don't either.

Pathetic.

[cwydro]

37. how horrilbe.

I cannot believe this.

[dysfunctional press]

39. romney/frist '08- keeping america safe from it's pets.

romney's campaign is SO over...

:rofl:
hahahahahahahahahahahaha...

[road2000]

64. Damn. You beat me to it! n/t

[bronxiteforever]

40. KICK

:kick:

[Geek_Girl]

41. Yay another moron running for President

This incident shows a serious lack of judgment and common sense. Why do I have a horrible feeling he'll be our next president? So many Americans seem to like to have a dull witted leader.

[lonestarnot]

43. So it is true. That dirty rotten son of a bitch! Prosecute him for animal cruelty.

Chevy belongs in jail.

[tenderheart]

46. I don't think Teen Wolf would have a problem with this...

he seemed to handle riding on top of the car just fine.

Oh, what I meant to say was, Romney deserves the electric chair!

[Dudley_DUright]

47. What Romney deserves for abusing his dog

h/t to Attaturk at Rising Hegemon

http://rising-hegemon.blogspot.com/2007/06/get-hose.html

[Seedersandleechers]

55. What a great pic

Those dogs look so happy!

[Kingshakabobo]

95. They're happy because there is a low bridge ahead! n/t

[B3Nut]

49. I knew he was a jackass

but this takes the cake. I reserve a special dispensation of disgust for pieces of trash like him. Who in the sam hell could possibly think strapping a kennel to the roof of a car and driving down the road was a good idea? He's either abominably cruel, unfathomably stupid, or a psychopath.

Can't have stem cell research or embrace the scientific fact of evolution, but we can strap a goddamn dog to the roof of a goddamn car. I swear the current crop of Republican candidates is the biggest gaggle of feckless buffoons ever assembled in the history of the United States, and is to a man a towering disgrace to the nation. Kakistocrats to a man.

Un. Fucking. Believable.

Todd in Cheesecurdistan

[KansDem]

51. What's the difference between FDR and Mitt Romney?

Roosevelt would name his dog "Falla"
Romney would let his dog "falloff"

[Sequoia]

69. Ding, ding....you win the joke contest!

[rateyes]

52. The other day, I got so pissed off when I saw

a man in a SEDAN driving down the road with a large dog STANDING on the the trunk lid trying to keep his balance. CRUEL MFer.

[mod mom]

56. * with frogs, Guiliani's 3rd wife w using dogs for selling equipment for which they

must be later euthanized, now this. :(

A party of despicable animal abusers is very telling of their treatment of those they see as inferior. (ie the rest of us)

[glitch]

62. Don't forget Frist. They're all freaks. Nasty little creeps.

I'll be glad when we all evolve beyond their level.

[tbyg52]

81. Did I miss something?

Was * one of those frog-torturing kids?

[mod mom]

91. w firecrackers to watch them explode-one sick mf-er.

"We were terrible to animals," recalled Mr. Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush home turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out.

"Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them," Mr. Throckmorton said. "Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up."

-snip

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/052100wh-gop-bush-bio.html

[tbyg52]

99. Oh my. Thank you for the extremely enlightening article

Between the segregated and intolerant small town and the casual (his buddy describing the incidents in the article "laughed") animal torture, everything is explained.

I grew up in a town a lot like that. Fortunately, I had a subscription to Highlights and all the Scholastic books I wanted, which I betcha a nickel Georgie didn't!

(I still had a racist dad--he didn't know what was *in* those books and magazines; he just knew they were supposed to be good for kids. Well, they were.)

As to the small-aminal torturing, there is evidence linking that to adult crime and mental disorders:

http://www.sniksnak.com/ac/abuse.html

http://www.ncjrs.gov/html/ojjdp/jjbul2001_9_2/contents.html

[npincus]

57. ...and Judi Giuliani's former employerer tortured dogs...

"The GOP is cruel to animals!"

[WorseBeforeBetter]

58. Idiot America may not care about "brown people"...

getting blown to bits, but I'd venture to say they don't take too kindly to mistreatment of dogs (well, but for the pull-the-wings-off-of-butterflies contingent). If this were a Dem candidate, it would sink him/her. Spread this far and wide.

[Ken Burch]

98. You're right. Animals would make more of an impression with the U.S. electorate

Ewan MacColl wrote a great song discussing this phenomenon(he was covering it in the UK,and people's lack of reaction to such events as the then-fascist junta in Greece and the abuses people suffered under apartheid compared to their visceral anger over animal suffering, but it applies here)

Here's some of the lyrics(copyright 1968 Ewan MacColl Ltd.)

"When Greeks were being tortured then we always held our piece
We used to like to spend our summer holidays in Greece
Cats and ponies, budgies, moths and hairy caterpillars
Lousy Europeans can't appreciate the pleasure that these little creatures give us
We're A Nation of Animal Lovers

When there's hangings in South Africa we just avert our gaze
But we're tender hearted to a fault with alley-cats and strays
Remember how the nation nearly had a nervous spasm
Breathlessly anticipating giant pandas' pleasure in a cuddly orgasm
We're A Nation of Animal Lovers

When there's rioting in Brixton we're impressively impassive
But be cruel to a horse and our reaction then is massive
Guinea pigs and painted terrapin, tropical fishes-
Lesser races cannot understand that it would meet with all our wishes
If there were no human beings".

(Not to say what Mitt did wasn't evil and twisted, but it's true, if Mitt had done this to his Mexican maid, nobody but us woulda cared.)


"

[valerief]

59. The animatronic candidate "double-guantanmoed" his own dog. nt

[BigDDem]

61. Piece of shit bastard

Fuck you.

[PassingFair]

66. That's it, I'm not sleeping with him. I take back my poll vote.

Guess it'll have to be Tommy Thompson.

:puke:

:evilgrin:

[Sequoia]

71. There goes my coffee....I need another keyboard.

[Bjorn Against]

67. Did anyone else notice he seems to have named his dog based on a Pink Floyd song?

Seamus is not a real common name, but there was a song about a dog named Seamus on the Pink Floyd album Meddle. Isn't Pink Floyd just a wee bit to the left of Romney? I don't think Roger Waters would be proud.

[pschoeb]

It's an Irish Setter, so an good Irish name makes sense

It's actually a fairly popular name in Ireland, it's the Irish version of James. Roger Waters can take a sigh of relief, I'm fairly certain devout Mormons can only listen to the Osmonds ;)

[japple]

68. Family values don't include the family dog.

He would fight to the death for the rights of fetuses, but treats his dog like a piece of luggage. This man has millions and is too cheap to board his pet while he goes on vacation. After this story gets widely circulated, I think his political career will be in the toilet, at least I hope so. And I'm waiting with baited breath for his spin on this.

[MindPilot]

74. I'd be willing to bet there is some serious domestic abuse hidden

in the past of that piss-poor excuse for a man. If he'll do that to a dog, he probably thinks it's his duty as "head of household" to knock his wife and kids around.

[maggiegault]

76. I've been unable to stop thinking about this poor dog. I'm sick about it.

[CountAllVotes]

88. you know what?

Me too!!! :puke: of a SOB Romeny is! :puke: for an already cursed puke!

:kick:

[Tansy_Gold]

77. One of my dogs ran away this morning

My dogs -- I have four of them -- are my family, and the idea of someone treating a dog the way Romney did is the equivalent to me of someone treating their child that way. I can't imagine anyone older than, say, eight thinking that this was a good way to transport a family pet. Romney's behavior with Seamus is simply unforgivable.

Thanks to a kind neighbor and an ID tag with a phone number on it, I got the rabbit-chasing, fence-climbing, happily wandering beagle-shepherd mix back, but only after two frantic hours of worrying that she'd either get hit by a car or run into a pack of unfriendly coyotes.


Tansy Gold, sucker for strays

[MindPilot]

78. Did the dog see a picture of Romney?

Seriously, I'm glad you got your mutt home unharmed.

[autorank]

82. This is sort of a deal killer for everybody who has pets or is humane...

If this really happened, and it seems it did...

My God, what a fool this guy is. He ties the dog to the roof. What a mind, what a lack of social bearing and restraint, what a casual monster he is.

[nam78_two]

83. He should pick Frist for his icket

I am sure they would get the Humane Society's endorsement :eyes:.

[greyghost]

84. Perfect n/t

[KT2000]

92. Dream ticket!

GOP dream come true - Romney the dog torturer/Frist the cat killer
That is the GOP in a nutshell!

[BigDDem]

86. Save the cells in the petri dish!!

Excuse me while I tie my dog to the roof of my car.

[Pooka Fey]

89. That poor dog! WTF??!! Some people shouldn't have pets.

:grr:

[Virginia Dare]

93. He's another sick fuck, he should be in jail for animal cruelty..

I guess this explains why he gets along with the chimp so well.

[MidwestTransplant]

96. Maybe it was part of a bet with Bill Frist?

[slampoet]

102. Has anybody figured out that he was probably SMUGGLING this dog into Canada?

Every international crossing i have seen has limits on the animals that can go back and forth. The Niagra crossing to Canada is no different.

Unless Romney had some pretty involved paperwork, (or he bribed a guard) the dog would have had to stay in 30 days of quarantine.

And even if he had the paperwork I find it HIGHLY unlikely that any border guard would have let them into Canada if the guard had seen how the dog was secured to the roof.

Once you add this up, (and there are records for these border crossings that go back a long way) the story sounds almost made up.


Either that or the Romney kid just outed his dad as a Smuggler.

[urbuddha]

104. Mitt Romney Cruel to Family Dog

Source: Earthlink

http://enews.earthlink.net/article/gen?guid=20070629/468483c0_3ca6_1552620070629-805859268

Read more: http://enews.earthlink.net/article/gen?guid=20070629/468483c0_3ca6_1552620070629-805859268

---

People who have no sympathy or compassion for animals should never be trusted.

[youngdem]

105. He lacks a conscience...that much is clear

How else does one flip flop so mightily on issues that are central to actual human beings?

And how could a 'man' drive a car ten hours with his dog on the roof scared to incontinence with the evidence streaming down the windows for the better part of a day?

What a world class piece of shit Republicans are.

Here's to hoping the dog bites his balls off.

[Debi]

106. Not really LBN

since it happend well over a decade ago...and several threads have already been dedicated to this subject.

But I agree, he's a POS for putting that animal in danger and through a terrible ordeal!

[momster]

107. On the Way Back....

did he do the same thing? If it was a family vacation, from Boston to Ontario, how did they get the dog back from Ontario? Same way?

What a barstid!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

110. And here's another prominent Republican being callous towards his wife:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=160x26168#26198


Namely, an "amusing" story about how Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty took his sweet old time getting his ailing wife some medical attention.


There's something not right about these guys.

[Shallah Kali]

115. Romeny, Torture, Teens - The former governor's connections to abusive "tough love" camps

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3343434

[noshenanigans]

118. oh good, I only had 100 other reasons

to totally dislike him.

[kskiska]

119. Scientists Say Dog Likely Experienced Wind-Whipped, Uncomfortable Trip

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What Happens to a Dog on a Roof Traveling 50 MPH?

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Nobel Prize-winning physicist Douglas Osheroff of physics at Stanford University said the dog crate on top of the car would change the air flow around the vehicle.

"Beyond a certain velocity, the air flow becomes turbulent," said Osheroff. "The airflow isn't going to be laminar," which means it won't have a uniform distribution.

Cumming said that's bad news for Seamus.

"Chances are the windshield would only protect the front of the dog, but the air flowing around the windshield would buffet the side of the dog -- that would be tiring," said Cummings. "My wife's a vet, and she would be more worried by the dehydration of the dog's eyes under those conditions."

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