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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 07:29 PM
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Secret Trials For Terrorists, Says US Judge
Source: The Australian

A TOP-RANKING US judge has stunned a conference of Australian judges and barristers in Chicago by advocating secret trials for terrorists, more surveillance of Muslim populations across North America and an end to counter-terrorism efforts being "hog-tied" by the US constitution.
Judge Richard Posner, a supposedly liberal-leaning jurist regarded by many as a future US Supreme Court candidate, said traditional concepts of criminal justice were inadequate to deal with the terrorist threat and the US had "over-invested" in them.

His proposed "big brother" solutions flabbergasted delegates at the Australian Bar Association's biennial conference, where David Hicks's lawyer, Major Michael Mori, is to be awarded honorary life membership.

"We have to fight terrorism with our strengths, and our strengths evolve around technology, including the technology of surveillance," said Justice Posner, a prolific legal scholar who sits on the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit.

"Are there terrorist plots that are at a formative stage among the large US Muslim community of two to three million people? In the 600,000 Canadian Muslim population, are there people planning attacks on the US?



Read more: http://theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21986986-2702,00.html?from=public_rss
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 07:33 PM
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1. Secret trials.... the SS would be proud.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 07:43 PM
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2. I bet when they issue the death penalty that will be broadcast far in the MSM
I am sure that once they convict these people in their kangaroo courts that the verdict of Death will be top story on the evening news and 24/7 on the all propaganda channels of CNN and FOX
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 07:58 PM
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3. The enemy within the Democratic Party...
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:49 PM
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4. 9/11 appears to have "changed everything," including rolling back the Enlightenment.
Torture, no right of habeus corpus, secret prisons, secret trials, no right of facing one's accusers, and no trial by one's peers, and war for the sake of conquest. Add in letters of cachet, and you've got the Ancien Regime redux.
I expect one of the Bushites to come out in knee breeches and a powdered wig any day now.
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askeptic Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 08:57 PM
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5. The man is advocating the dissolution of the Constitution
Advocating that the Constitution should be dissolved is treason - at the least, this man should be impeached. We are witnessing the evolution of the U.S. into a 1984-ish nightmare...
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:02 AM
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8. Yes, he should be impeached, and charged with inciting treason.
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 12:03 AM by Amonester
And he would be tried, juged, and sentenced in a public trial.

This case is another clear example of the pervasively wrong "influence" of what "not beginning the due process of impeachment" against the criminals Chainy (first), and Bu$che, and Gonezoo R for even just ONE crime they have clearly committed (just pick ONE and DO IT).

On a side note, is that "judge" senile or what? Does he not know about the FISA rules (for surveillance) or is he just another overpaid ignoramus? :mad:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 11:08 PM
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6. meep
wow, that is one scary guy. 'supposedly liberal-leaning' ??!! good thing he 'outed' himself as a nut.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 11:47 PM
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7. Witch trials
are making a comeback with the Puritans in 2007. America is fucked up. Secret trials are more frightening and an affront to decent society than Muslims ever will be. This has got to stop! We are losing our culture and heritage to absolute savages and tyrants. Wrong, wrong, wrong thinking.
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