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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:10 AM
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Wikipedia notes death of Benoit's wife BEFORE body found
Source: CNN

ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit's Wikipedia entry to mention his wife's death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.

Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death.

A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Connecticut, where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

An IP address, a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet, does not necessarily have to be broadcast from where it is registered. The bodies were found in Benoit's home in suburban Atlanta, Georgia, and it's not known where the posting was sent from, Bass said.


Read more: edition.cnn.com/2007/US/06/28/wrestler.ap/index.html



That's curious.

PB
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:14 AM
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1. That is so bizarre.
Who would know besides Benoit himself?
I guess he did it.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:15 AM
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2. My guess is that Benoit posted that.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 11:19 AM
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3. My guess is that someone at the WWE (remember the strange text messages?)...
...may have either put two and two together OR they know more than came out. Anyway, wrestling fans are a really tight-knit community and word gets around. My guess is that a superfan got ahold of information or an indication that she was dead and updated the page- not even thinking that it would raise suspicion.

  Just a guess.

PB
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:09 PM
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4. Don't you just hate these time-travel paradoxes!
;-)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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5. Wikipedia user admits Benoit posting
Source: Kansas City Star

Wikipedia user admits Benoit posting
By JASON BRONIS
Associated Press Writer

Douglas Healey

Investigators had not yet discovered the bodies of pro wrestler Chris Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son when someone altered Benoit's Wikipedia entry to mention his wife's death, authorities said.

An anonymous user with the same IP address as the person who made the edits confessed early Friday on an online discussion page attached to the Web site, saying the changes were based on rumors and speculation, not hard evidence.

The authenticity of the posting could not immediately be confirmed.

"I just can't believe what I wrote was actually the case, I've remained stunned and saddened over it," the user wrote.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/449/story/169884.html
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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6. Thanks for this. Wiki can be a good place to start looking for info
sometimes people guess and post right.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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7. Hate to say it, but I still smell cover-up. Anonymous?
And if it's that obvious, why aren't the cops talking to "anonymous"?

Too, too convenient.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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8. The origin of the posting is suspicious
It was posted from the same CT area as the WWE headquarters.

I have a feeling Benoit called someone at WWE and they wanted to scoop everyone rather than report it to the police. The best place to do it outside the MSM is Wikipedia.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 07:25 PM
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30. Since Benoit was telling people his wife and son
were sick and vomiting blood, I wonder if Benoit told someone his wife died from the disease.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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10. Yes I wondered about that as well
But I can also see why anonymous is too embarrassed to give his/her name.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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11. If it had come anywhere but from Stamford, my bsdar would not engage. But the home of WWE?
I watched a rel=play of the CEO of WWE on the Today Show last night, and he behaved like a man who knew a whole lot more than he was letting on.

But yes, if anonymous is an ordinary wrestling fan, I can see his/her reticence.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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13. Agreed about Stamford
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 01:09 PM
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23. I think McMahon knew - through others at WWE
but didn't want to cancel the big tribute they planned (I mean, really, how'd they put that all together so fast???? not even a day to plan it?). I think they knew and just ignored it until they had to do a little back-pedaling. Just my :tinfoilhat: theory
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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15. Counterpoint.
Most of the WWE staff and major stars were probably in Houston, Texas since the Vengeance PPV was that Sunday.

Most likely it may have been someone who received the odd text messages from Benoit while thinking it was only a family emergency.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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18. Doubtful that the top execs were. nt
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:29 PM
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25. Yep
At least one of the sports guys at the newspaper I work for agree with you.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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9. It is interesting the poster IP is in Stamford, Connecticut, where
WWE is located:

Wikipedia confirmed the authenticity of the time stamp and said entry was made by someone using an IP address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based. The anonymous user acknowledged being from Stamford, but claimed no connection to WWE.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070629/wikipedia_benoit_070629/20070629?hub=TopStories

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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12. Well, wouldn't there be a lot of people interested in this story
in Stamford? And, the poster had a 50% chance of being right.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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16. Somebody doesn't show up for a wrestling match
And you assume his wife is dead?

That's a 50-50% shot in your book? If I don't show up for work and call in with a family emergency, do you assume its even money that my wife is dead?

That's a strange world you live in!

:-)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 01:36 AM
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31. Well, the wife was supposed to be sick.
That's the reason Benoit gave for not showing up for the event.
She was supposed to have been vomiting blood.
By the way, I wonder why Benoit was telling people his wife and child were sick. I know he needed a reason to not show up for the event, but considering he killed himself, why did he even bother to come up with these explanations?
All of it is so strange.

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Erebus67 Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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17. The odds on being right were no where near 50%.
The odds on picking the exact day someone would die are astronmical.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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21. I disagree, given the post itself was specific and not general
wrt the death of the wife, the date, etc. At the very least, the poster would have had to have had, imo, intimate knowledge of the various private issues of the family dynamics and, even with that knowledge, to post what was posted and say it was merely coincidence is not credible, imo.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 01:59 PM
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24. I reread the OP, and you're right. I missed that they were both
missing and thought this was posted after she went missing, i.e., the pd were already investigating.

This IS weird.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:33 PM
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26. I think the poster on Wikipedia had access to one or more of
the text messages Benoit had sent during the period starting Friday and ending in his suicide. Whether he is directly connected to the WWE or only peripherally, he certainly had knowledge even the authorities didn't have at that time.

I am also speculating his denial of his knowledge being more than coincidental has more to do with him not contacting the authorities once he had the knowledge and, instead, posting it on Wikipedia.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 02:44 PM
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27. Do you think it was Benoit?
This is so sad.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 03:12 PM
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28. I don't think it was Benoit that made the Wiki entry as he was in
Atlanta and the IP of the poster to Wiki was in Stamford, Connecticut. Benoit did, according to the news reports and the investigators, send various text messages during the time between when he killed his wife and when, in the end, he killed himself. I think the poster to Wiki had access, either directly or indirectly, to the text messages that were explicit enough for the Wiki poster to post the information about the death of Benoit's wife hours before anyone else knew she was dead.

I hope, in the end, we will know who knew about the murder/suicide and didn't contact the authorities when they first knew about it.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-30-07 03:23 AM
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32. According to one report they didn't have to be in CT to have that IP?
Edited on Sat Jun-30-07 03:30 AM by rainbow4321
Said just because the IP address was based in CT doesn't mean the poster had to physically being in CT...tons of people here are smarter than myself when it comes to anything IP so maybe someone can clarify/refute the news report. If the report **is** accurate, then it may well be that he entered it himself.
I know the wrestling organization said that each wrestler had access to their an email addresses/accounts that was set up by the wrestling company so maybe that has something to do w/ it also??
Guess only time will tell.



Hmmm.
Just went to a webpage that checks IP addresses and it says my IP address is in Kansas...and that is not the state where I am posting this from :)
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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14. Rumors and speculation are one thing.
Accuracy is very much a different thing. There is much more to this than speculation. And why rewrite someone else's bio to include speculation about that person's wife's death?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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19. "No one could have anticipated a plane flying into the tower."
:puke:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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20. Oh. Come. On. From the same location as WWE headquarters?
A lucky guess?

If folks buy this explanation, I have some WMD in Iraq to sell them.:eyes:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 12:56 PM
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22. "Investigators had not yet discovered the bodies of pro wrestler Chris Benoit"
:wtf:

How the hell is that possible?
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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-29-07 06:04 PM
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29. Time travel adventures of the murdering wikipedia editor.
Edited on Fri Jun-29-07 06:05 PM by SayWhatYo
He did so that he could have something write about on wikipedia...
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