Breaking: BBC cites report of car on fire driving into Glasgow airport

[VolcanoJen]

Source: MSNBC, CNN, BBC

Breaking now on MSNBC and CNN. Will update with link.

Update:

Car crashes into airport building - BBC

Glasgow Airport has been evacuated following reports that a car has struck the main terminal building and burst into flames.
All flights have been suspended following the incident which happened on Saturday afternoon.

Eyewitnesses have described a Jeep Cherokee being driven at speed towards the building with flames coming out from underneath.

The fire and ambulance service are at the scene along with the police.


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/6257194.stm

[IndianaGreen]

1. Looks like a premature combustion of another car fuel bomb

The MSM is reporting that the two cars used in yesterday's foiled bomb attempts were stolen in Scotland and driven to London. Now we got the incident at Glasgow. They better catch these guys before they succeed.

[dysfunctional press]

4. why make the assumption that it's terrorists...?

and not just a car on fire...?

car bombs don't generally start out on fire- they explode.

and they are usually parked, not being driven at speed.

[Eurobabe]

8. Beecuz my teevee told me it wuz terrarists!

:sarcasm:

[IndianaGreen]

11. People don't drive their cars into airport terminals

Burning Car In Airport Terminal
Updated: 16:18, Saturday June 30, 2007

A 4x4 jeep has driven into the terminal building at Glasgow airport and caught fire, police have confirmed.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273090,00.html

[dysfunctional press]

20. when was the last time a terrorist did?

i'd be willing to bet that there have been many more incidents of car accidents at/involving airport terminals than terrorist car bombs.

[IndianaGreen]

24. Turn your tele on and watch the live coverage

Eye witnesses are describing an intentional act, not a accident.

[Eurobabe]

30. Terra was dropping on the attention ladder anyhow

time to make the people AFRAID again!!! FEAR, FEAR, FEAR, :scared: :scared: :scared:

It's so much better when the masses are whipped into a frickin' frenzy!

[IndianaGreen]

37. Terrorism is a reality we have to deal with, the problem is when we surrender liberties

to a government that then engages in greater terrorism than the original terrorists. The Brits recognize the pitfalls of surrendering freedoms for the sake of security than Americans are. Let's not forget that Congress passed PATRIOT while in a panic and without much thought, and that the current Democratic Congress has no intentions to restoring our liberties.

[Eurobabe]

38. Sorry dude, but I have become so cynical about

who is behind this "terrorism," and whose purpose it really serves.

[Cha]

95. REally! They've tried

to fool us too many fucking times.

[INDIA]

110. When?

When has the UK or US government EVER Orchestrated/planned/carried out an attack or attempted attack? You say it is too many times. I can't think of one. Proof would be nice, instead of wild unfounded speculation.

Yes they spin/exaggerate incidents. You are alleging that they CREATE them. Prove it.

[Eurobabe]

115. Hey if I could prove it, I'd be locked up in GITMO

already. Just saying, don't believe everything your government tells you.

[LBJDemocrat]

47. Oh, give me a fucking break

Just because some political leaders exploit the threat of terrorism doesn't mean the threat doesn't exist. Britain has no shortage of Jihadist Salafis who'd love to kill themselves while taking others with them.

[Eurobabe]

116. Who knows what a "threat" is anymore

and you can give me a fucking break! How dat?

[dysfunctional press]

33. it still doesn't mean that it was terrorist related.

it certainly isn't the way that car bombs are generally used.

4 people in one car bomb would be a tremendous waste of resources.

[IndianaGreen]

41. Some people believe what they see at the Creationism Museum in Kentucky

rather than open themselves up to facts.

Fact: Two people in custody by police.

:shrug:

[MindPilot]

62. "Fact: Two people in custody by police."

For what, felony catalytic converter overheating?

[KittyWampus]

106. they do if they are unconcious. They drive into houses, trees, people, other cars

[Jacobin]

80. NewsFlash

There are a number of Muslims supremely pissed off at Great Britain and the U.S.?

when we attack their countries and their way of life, sometimes they fight back.

[dysfunctional press]

102. newsflash- where in the article does it say anything about muslims?

:shrug:

[muriel_volestrangler]

103. But on a BBC TV news report just now, an eye-witness did say

that as one of the men struggled with a policeman, he was shouting "Allah!" repeatedly.

[toopers]

114. you forgot praising an author for a lifetime of work!

EOM

[IndianaGreen]

2. AP: Two cars crashed, one caught on fire

Not enough details as to whether two cars were deliberately crashed into terminal, or crashed into one another.

[youngdem]

48. Look at the video...very clear it was intentional

The 2 car report is probably bogus.

There is no way this wasn't intentional....Plus, I don't think it was a Pinto, so I doubt it would have exploded spectacularly without some explosives.

The fireball was impressively large....Looks like a terror attack of some sort to me.

[kurth]

3. "Two Aisan men, one of whom was on fire"

"Asian" most likely means Indian/Pakistani/Middle Eastern appearance.

[dysfunctional press]

6. there are a lot of "asian" people from china, korea, thailand, japan...

indian/pakistani/middle eastern are not considered "asian" as far as appearance goes.

"asian" is generally what replaced "oriental" when it became un-pc

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Wrong

In the UK, "Asian" refers to people of Middle Eastern and Indian appearance.

When you say "What ethjnicity is Osama bin Laden" in England, you're likely to get the response "He's Asian."

[dipsydoodle]

16. No chance

we'd say Arab, possibly incorrectly , but we'd say it just the same.

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. I stand corrected

But you do use "Asian" for Indians and Pakistanis in a way that we don't use it in the US. In the US, Asian generally refers to, say, Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese - but you wouldn't generally hear somebody say that a person from India was "Asian."

And yes, some imbeciles still use "Oriental" for people, and pretend that they are "oppressed" by political correctness. :eyes:

[dysfunctional press]

26. in regard to the word "oriental"

that was the word that was used in general parlance for a LONG time. LOTS of people grew up in a time when the word was perfectly acceptable and commonly used, and there are probably still lots of people who use it, and have absolutely no idea that it's objectionable.

[gtar100]

40. Yep, that one caught me off guard

"Oriental" had no negative connotations to me in my mind, yet my own kids called me racist when I said it in a converstaion. I guess I was out of the loop when people started using it as a negative. But if Asians are offended by the word, that's their call, not mine. So I'll adjust.

[jollyreaper2112]

76. so is occidental a no-no as well?

Sheesh. I can't keep up with this shit. Just call everyone assholes, they'll be equally offended with no racial intent. :)

[ChazII]

94. Probably not. :) n/t

[pink-o]

83. My Japanese friend explained it thus

"Oriental" is not a racist insult, but it refers to art and inanimate objects, ie "Oriental" rug. People from Eastern countries are usually called by their counties, like we're American. "Asian" is too broad of a term to describe the various cultures that inhabit such a big continent.

Now, back on topic: I'm not at all surprised that we would take this latest "terra" attack with a grain of salt--one of the sickest things about this administration is that they have cried wolf so many times with so many political machinations and fear-mongering, that we wouldn't recognise a real terrorist threat until it was too late.

Fuck them all the way to Sunday for that alone :grr:

[murielm99]

70. Correct.

My brother lives in San Francisco. When I first visited him there, I used that word, and he jumped all over me. Now I know better.

[alcibiades_mystery]

85. Lotta words like that, I guess

Live and learn...

:shrug:

[dipsydoodle]

35. When we use it

we're not using it to refer to what you might call the "continent" - just as I said Indians and Pakistanis. Broadly speaking , in common usage, it goes back to when Idi Amin kicked out all of those of Indian origin and caused a major influx into the UK.

Australians do use it as you would - not as we do here in the UK.

By the way ,I didn't mean to come over as picky - just helpful.

[AlanAdam]

99. Concerning use of the word "oriental" ...

My wife, 48 years old, is from Taiwan. She refers to herself as Oriental rather than Asian. She would be surprised to hear that she harbors anti-Asian prejudice.

[Doremus]

107. Your post reminded me of an imbecile I know.

She calls gays "homosexuals" (each syllable succinctly pronounced) and African Americans "negroes."

Her: Is that un-PC?
Me: Um, if you mean is it disrespectful, well yeah. :eyes:

Some people are beyond help.
:puke:

[LeftishBrit]

120. No; 'Asian' here usually means Indian or Pakistani...

or sometimes people from other countries in the general region; e.g. Sri Lanka. Of course, many British Asians come from families that have been here for two, three or four generations; and many others are from families that had lived for a long time in African countries, especially Uganda before nutcase Amin kicked the Asians out.

People from the Middle East would be called 'Arabs' not 'Asians'. Of course, British people can be just as ignorant and racist, and just as confused about ethnicity and national origins, as those of any other country. E.g. I knew a Puerto Rican who was an overseas university student in Britain at the time of the first Gulf War, and she told me that someone in the street had shouted "Bloody Arab!" at her. On a funnier note, a Japanese friend of mine was asked if her country 'belonged to Hong Kong'.

[LBJDemocrat]

49. The British use "Asian" almost exclusively to refer to South Asians nt

[dipsydoodle]

7. In the UK

Asian is used for Indian or Pakistani origin - not middle eastern.

[Shakespeare]

9. Thanks, I was just about to point that out.

Europe and the UK are a bit more educated in this regard than folks are stateside.

[Louie the XIV]

74. Actually my experience in the U.K. is that people from that region

are most commonly referred to as Expletive Paki.

Hardly what I would consider more educated or enlightened.

[melody]

12. That is who it's properly used for in the States as well n/t

[Shakespeare]

19. SHOULD be, but if you ask the average person on the street....

...they're not going to use the word "Asian" if you ask them about somebody from India or Pakistan, because most in the U.S. have not been properly educated in that regard.

[melody]

29. I have never heard them called anything else in a general sense

But we're a huge country of 300 million people and a lot of states. Language is hardly uniform.

[fujiyama]

92. There is one major reason for this difference

in language.

In Britain, the major immigrant group from Asia are South Asians (people of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Sri Lanka). These are people from the Indian subcontinent.

In the US, "Asian" generally refers to those from East Asia (China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, etc), because there is a longer history of East Asians immigrating to the US as well as greater involvement in those nations during the Cold War and after (WWII, Korean War, Vietnam). After all, the Chinese began arriving to build railroads, well over a century ago. I'm not sure when Japanese and Koreans largely began arriving in the US, but their history in the US is much longer than South Asians.

South Asians, on the other hand, have been largely arriving since the 1960s when immigration policies were eased for Asians in general. Also, the US involvement in those nations has been relatively covert (US arming Pakistan to fight the majahadeeen in Afghanistan). India-US relations were relatively cool during the Cold War when they were closer aligned with the Soviets.

The British occupied the Indian subcontinent for several centuries and have a much greater involvement as well.

So it's a matter of both a historical perspective in terms of wars and occupations, as well as the immigration from those lands that occurred after.

[aquart]

25. No, we don't. Because nobody would get it.

Asian is Japanese, Vietnamese, Chinese, Thai, Laotian, maybe Burmese but not likely.

We call Indians, Indians and Pakistanis all kinds of things by mistake. Well, they look the same.

Anyone who used "asian" for Indian or Pakistani would have to spend the next hour explaining it. India is a subcontinent and we accord it more respect than the British do.

[melody]

34. Well, thank you for teaching me the words I use lol

There are only two true races, Asians and Africans, but I doubt 3/4s of the people in any culture know that. lol

See, here I'm trying to critique us and I still get grief. lol

[aquart]

43. What is caucasian? Chopped liver?

There are over seven races among the Africans. And anthropologists can distinguish between Caucasian, African, and Asian skulls. They can spot Amerindians, too. And Alpines.

Anytime a population lives in isolation for a time, they develop distinct characteristics.

Mediterranean peoples, however, as any casting director will tell you, can be cast interchangeably with each other, possibly due to the lonely Roman army.

[melody]

45. Caucasian is a composite of African and Asian, we aren't a true race in the literal sense

There are only two true races -- African and Asian. Everything else is a blending of
those two.

[VolcanoJen]

23. Thanks

Was not aware of that. Is that considered a politically correct term, out of curiosity?

[jollyreaper2112]

75. wonderful

If they're terrorists, allow me to be the first to offer a Nelsonesque "HAHA!" How's it feel having your flesh melt off, you jihadi bastard? If they're not terrorists, ouch!

[VolcanoJen]

5. Sky News - 4x4 Jeep and a scuffle...

... with an Asian man. ??? The link below has a photo of the scene.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273090,00.html

[IndianaGreen]

18. Sky News is reporting a man is in custody

a witness on Sky News said the car deliberately ram the terminal.

[kurth]

10. "Pakistan Islamics vow suicide attacks on England because of Rushdie"

http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=4079

[aquart]

28. Wow, that's certainly taking your time.

[whopis01]

118. 2 weeks? That's not a whole lot of time. n/t

[originalpckelly]

46. Yeah, you have to wonder if these bastards aren't doing it because of that.

[AngryAmish]

14. Way to go, Bush

Eat shit, Bush!

[CJCRANE]

15. Ok, I'm eating my tinfoilhat now.

This is some crazy sh*t. Maybe it is due to Rushdie's knighthood as some suggest.

On edit: or could be a copycat or...who knows...

[Posteritatis]

66. Whatever it is, it's weak.

To say people over there are hardcore about having chunks of their cities blown up or set on fire is an understatement. If something like this happened (and I'm assuming it was deliberate, if just for the sake of conversation) in, say, Maine or New Brunswick, people in Oregon or British Columbia would be cowering in shelters for days, but I heard people over there react to the London bombings with something along the lines of "is that it? Come on."

If this was connected to the last two, someone's got Ineptitude down pat as a skill, which is leading me to think it's likely some random amateurs with more balls than brains thinking they can be as badass as the grown-ups can when they play with stuff like this. They certainly could have done a better job of it, and they likely couldn't have picked a target population that was harder to intimidate. Pft.

Does it suck? Yes, somewhat. Is it likely to do anything other than "somewhat suck" over there? Doubt it.

Lord, make our enemies ridiculous, et cetera.

[sg_]

17. Witness on tv says the driver swung around as if he was trying to drive right into the terminal

nft

[IndianaGreen]

27. Four people have been arrested, according to Sky News

and the plot thickens.

Remember that the cars used in the foiled petro car bombs were stolen in Scotland.

[Eurobabe]

36. no he said "swang" around, several times

that's bad English.

[gtar100]

42. Well I wouldn't drive well if I were on fire either

Probably a little distracting for most people.

Maybe there's a whole other reason for this incident.

[Truthiness Inspector]

69. If your car is on fire

you slow down, stop, get out, and get as far away as possible. You do NOT accelerate and keep driving unless you want to be turned into toast.

[index555]

88. unless you are trying to make the car blow up.

[bigworld]

61. Airport layout

I was there not too long ago and the way the entrance here is laid out, there's no possible way that someone could have "lost control" and ended up there. This was deliberate.

[kestrel91316]

22. Somebody needs to tell the terraists that July 4th is an AMERICAN

holiday. They need to lay off the poor limeys anready.

[Eurobabe]

32. spray alert

:spray: Kestrel, you bad@!!

[dipsydoodle]

39. Maybe what the two guys were arguing about.

The argument started with "If your memory serves you well"..........
progressed to "this wheels on fire, rolling down the road........." and ended with "notify my next of kin.........:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZlTX0heBEk

[Lasher]

63. Just heard this on tee vee: 3 of the suspects identified as brothers.

Moe, Larry, and Curly Hussein.

[dipsydoodle]

65. Hmmm

Nice one ! :rofl.

[Lasher]

77. In another thread someone called them terrorists-on-training-wheels

That was about the prior incident. These guys are pretty doofy, huh?

[Posteritatis]

67. Ahh, but Canada Day's tomorrow! They're hitting us by proxy! (nt)

[CJCRANE]

31. I hope the London foiled attack

is still investigated.

I remember after 21/7 and the Menenzez shooting the spotlight was taken away from 7/7.

[T_i_B]

112. Of course it will

The Old Bill's got to find the people who did this, and they have LOADS of evidence to sift through, from the forensic stuff to piles and piles of CCTV footage, vehicle history etc. I'm happy to let them get on with that job myself.

[CJCRANE]

113. The attacks seem to be connected

so yes it looks like the investigation is still very much ongoing.

However, I get the impression that some of the victims of 7/7 and many others are still unhappy with the govt's account of that day (and events leading up to it) and feel that the media basically dropped the ball on that one. (If you remember there's a controversy over the 7/7 bombers being called "clean skins" and then that being shown later to be untrue as per Rachel North and the other campaigners).

[Algorem]

44. that's one bad driver

[youngdem]

50. ABC BREAKING NEWS: Terror Attack at Glasgow Airport

Source: ABC TV

Per ABC BREAKING NEWS

A car was driven into the Glasgow Airport entrance at high speed and detonated.

No word on casulties.

Video and photo still available on www.abc.com shortly.

No link yet.

[BootinUp]

51. Are we winning yet? n/t

:sarcasm:

[Joanne98]

52. I didn't know Cheney was in Scotland.

[yes2truth]

53. Something's fishy, because today isn't the 11th. EOM

nt

[youngdem]

54. Mods, please lock....Dupe, sorry.

[blitzen]

55. was not detonated...it was ignited...No explosive materials

it's amateur hour for terrorist wannabees

[muryan]

56. i wouldnt be surprised

if the IRA had its hand in yesterday and today. I know a lot of them werent happy with having to 'disarm' and its almost guarenteed that in any attack the first suspects will be islamists.

[librechik]

57. a more direct message from Al CIAda to the new Scot PM?

crank it up, Nazis. We're hip to your game. It's not like we can stop you. All we can do is point and laugh at your ineffectiveness.

[billyoc]

58. Can potato gun mortar attacks be far behind? n/t

[index555]

89. the next attacks will be wrist-rocket launched flaming marshmallows

[kitty1]

98. I think they missed a class in bomb detonation 101...n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

59. CNN is playing up the idea that this is

"a message to the new government of Gordon Brown that they get out of Iraq."

I thought Gordon Brown was NOT planning to support US efforts in Iraq.

[ForPeace]

82. I was wondering the same thing

May be a message to Gordon Brown. A lot seems to have happened since Gordon Brown took over. Tony Blair just halted a fraud inquiry into a major Saudi Arabian arms deal on the 7th. I wonder what else he did just before leaving office that we don't yet know about. Could be trying to make Gordon Brown look soft on terror.

[MisterP]

109. Broon could just be getting a leg up, since terra makes everyone run to the Leader

a neolib Blair protégé is still a neolib Blair protégé, I mean

[alcibiades_mystery]

86. They better be careful...they said the same thing to the Spanish

in an effort to keep them in Iraq after the Madrid train bombings. The Spanish people immediately elected a leftist who promised to pull them out of Iraq, which he immediately did.

The whole "They're bombing you cuz they want you to pull out of Iraq, so don't pull out" doesn't have a whole lotta history of success...

[MindPilot]

60. Man, I hope I never lose control of my car if it catches fire

I'll automatically be a "terrorist".

[muryan]

64. i know tons of people

just lose control of their cars and happen to drive through security while setting fire to my car to purposely blow the gas tank.
:sarcasm:

We cant denegrate or ignore these kinds of attacks, it only helps the right wing when they use these attacks to persecute those in the middle east. We should be angry that this is what our presidents foreign policy has led to. Just look what has happened since his taken office with spain, london, wtc, etc. This just shows that all hes doing by killing innocent arabs is alienating the moderates and empowering islamists who will continue to carry out attacks across the world in relative ease because the moderates in their communities wont be driven to act out of fear of being invaded for doing so.

[fujiyama]

93. Well stated

Terrorism is a serious threat, but this is another example of both Bush and Blair's failed legacy.

While incidents of terrorism would possibly have happened regardless of who was in office (with regards to Rushdie), Bush and Blair have exacerbated it, and made it worse by unjustifiably invading Iraq, and taking the ball off fighting real terrorists.

Not to mention, restrictions on civil liberties at home have likely alienated those immigrant communities, making cooperation more difficult.

All in all, just a completely disgusting set of events of extremists playing off other extremists (neocons and the Islamist religious fanatics). And too many innocent people pay the price all over.

[Eugene]

68. AP: Flaming car rams U.K. airport; 2 arrests

Source: Associated Press

Flaming car rams U.K. airport; 2 arrests

By IAN STEWART, Associated Press Writer
5 minutes ago

GLASGOW, Scotland - Two men rammed a flaming sport utility
vehicle into the main terminal of Glasgow airport Saturday,
crashing into the glass doors at the entrance and sparking a
fire, witnesses said. Police said two suspects were arrested.

There were no reports of injuries but the airport — Scotland's
largest — was evacuated and all flights suspended, a day after
British police thwarted a plot to bomb central London,
discovering two cars abandoned with loads of gasoline, gas
canisters and nails.

"One has to conclude ... these are linked," Dame Pauline
Neville-Jones, former head of Britain's joint intelligence
committee, told Sky News. "This is a very young government,
and we may yet see further attacks."

-snip-

In Glasgow, the green SUV barreled toward the building shortly
after 3 p.m., hitting security barriers before crashing into the
glass doors and exploding, witnesses said. Two men jumped out
of the burning vehicle, one of them engulfed in flames, they said.

-snip-

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070630/ap_on_re_eu/britain_airport_crash

[uppityperson]

78. "one has to conclude..." "exactly a week before..." Rant.

"The crash at Glasgow airport comes exactly a week before the second anniversary of the July 7 bombings that killed 52 people."

Yes, people do bad things, including setting off bombs and hurting other people. It has always been this way and I don't see humanity changing. That said, EVERYTHING IS NOT ALWAYS RELATED! OMG, exactly 1 week before...!!!! Just think, if it happened tomorrow it would be EXACTLY 6 days before....


COATH (trailer hitch reference). If you made a calendar of when every bombing happened, it would fill every day. Sometimes things are related, sometimes they aren't, don't assume, don't conclude until you have all the evidence, don't over react and I really hate how cynical I have become. argh

[BooScout]

71. I hate to burst all your bubbles.....

But I think this latest little blip has more to do with old Gordy taking over.......continue carrying on with all the conspiracy theories though.........very entertaining.:eyes:

[lynne]

84. Exactly. That's the first thing I thought when I heard about the London incident -

Gordon is receiving a baptism by fire. Literally.

[Drunken Irishman]

72. This is why the war on terrorism is a farce.

There will always be terrorists. There were before 9-11 and after. It's our duty to try and thwart these acts, but to assume that it'll never take place again through some fake war is ignorance at its best. The worst part is that Bush has actually made us more unsafe with the war in Iraq and I'm not sure if we'll be able to repair what he's caused. The resulting blowback from this invasion could be very catastrophic for so many innocent Europeans and Americans. And that's not even getting into the many, MANY innocent Iraqis who have been damned either to death, or misery, because of this war.

[Ian David]

73. The guy from valet parking will NOT be getting a tip. n/t

[spinbaby]

79. MSNBC is reporting they've evacuated the hospital

where they took the guy from the car.

I'm just tuning into this now, and can NOT believe the wall-to-wall terror hype going on on TV.

[sleipnir]

81. What's not to believe? Slow news day all around except for Hollywood-esque flaming crash

I can totally see why this is getting wall to wall coverage.

It's pure red meat, with no fat!

And hey, we can now add racial speculation into the mix.



Methinks there is certainly a link between this incident and the car-bombs in London.

Remember, the stolen cars were from Scotland.

I'll wager a Subway Sandwich that the two apprehended were involved with the shenanigans down south and were about to be apprehended by authorities, but tried to go out with a bang today.

[BornagainDUer]

87. Time to rethink Star Wars Missile Defense System!!

:evilgrin:

[Haole Girl]

90. GLA (Glasgow airport) is closed...EDI (Edinburgh) remains open

as of 2:15 ET.

[rollin74]

91. Britain has raised terror threat level to "critical"

critical level means attacks expected imminently

[kitty1]

96. A week ago I mentioned that I had a gut feeling something....

was going to go down in the near future because of that Rushdie incident and other reasons.
And this happens. It seems the police could be holding back on releasing public info as they are fervently following up on evidence. I think they Birmingham as being the location of some investigation right now.
I'm sure we'll find out bits and pieces in the next few days.

[Eugene]

97. (Reuters) U.S. boosting security at airports: White House

Source: Reuters

U.S. boosting security at airports: White House
Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:46PM EDT

By Caren Bohan

KENNEBUNKPORT, Maine (Reuters) - The United States is
boosting security at airports following an explosion at a
Glasgow airport that British police described as an attack
and car bombs found in London, the White House said on
Saturday.

White House spokesman Tony Snow said there was no
indication of any specific U.S. threat, and the federal
government's color-coded rating of the threat of a
terrorist attack was not being increased.

However, Snow said there will be an added presence of
security officials for the sake of vigilance and travelers
can expect some delays, especially at larger airports.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN3028381220070630

[conspirator]

100. THAT'S IT. I had enough. I am moving to France or Spain. nt

[rainbow4321]

101. Live news reports on BBC website

http://news.bbc.co.uk/

[rainbow4321]

104. BBC saying that there are propane tanks in the vehicle

Video is showing the car still in flames..is it still on fire or is that taped video?

They're saying that the media reports about officials reporting what exactly went "wrong" with the first 2 attempts may have given the terrorist groups info on what they needed to "correct" to make the car explode.

Suicide belt found on the suspect who survived the crash and is now in the hospital w/ critical injuries.

Other surviving (uninjured) suspect being questioned by police.

[Maeve]

105. Two things to note--just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean no one is out to get you

And the little boy who cried 'wolf' was eaten by...a wolf.

The timing of the incidents argues in favor of the idea that they were real attacks, so I'm giving the British police the benefit of the doubt at this point. (Attacking at the change in government is, you will excuse the term, "normal." We see it every time there's a mod change here at DU!) That they were done by the same group---questionable until further evidence. More than one group has a grudge against the Brits, or would see this as an opportune time. It could be that this is unrelated and not really an attack; not enough info to speculate.

[bklyncowgirl]

111. Good sane analysis.

It seems to me that aside from their role in the Iraq war, the Brits pissed off the Islamic world rather mightily by knighting Salman Rushdie.

Whether the people perpetrating these attacks in Britain are an Al Queda affiliate or a group of home grown extremists is beside the point.

There ARE crazy religious nut cases out there who believe that it is an act of devotion to drive a car loaded with propane into the lobby of a crowded airport and immolate themselves in the process.

Somehow the U.S. and British Governments are bent on doing things which provoke these crazy people into more and more violent acts. With the war in Iraq, we've not only given them an opportunity to train their people and test their methods of killing but a recruiting poster for every young nobody in the Arab world who sees himself going out in a blaze of glory for Islam.

And you're right, the boy who cried wolf was in the end eaten by the wolf.

[fedsron2us]

108. More fear biscuits please

A skeptical look by the Register at how 'professional' are the terrorists behind these incidents

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/29/more_fear_biscuits_please/

Reading the news media you will find mentions that the combination of gas cylinders and petrol used in bombs is a technique deployed by 'Al Quaida' in Iraq and elsewhere. I searched the MIPT Terrorism knowledge database using a combination of the such words as 'gas, petrol, propane, butane' etc. I got only a few hits for Iraq and in most of those the 'gas' involved in the incident was in the gasoline tanks of the petrol station which was the target. When propane or butane has been used as part of the explosive mix by terrorists it does not seem to have been particularly effective.

http://www.terrorismknowledgebase.org/RWExecquery.jsp?QueryString=petrol+gas&imageField.x=21&imageField.y=16&SelectedLibs=Terr_Incidents
http://www.terrorismknowledgebase.org/RWExecquery.jsp?QueryString=propane&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0&SelectedLibs=Terr_Incidents
http://www.terrorismknowledgebase.org/RWExecquery.jsp?sLibraryType=Terr_Incidents&QueryString=butane

I can not find much evidence of 'Al Qaida' or any other terrorists using this technique much outside of Europe.

If this combination of easily available ingredients is so deadly one wonders why groups such as the IRA were not using it in their bombing campaigns in the UK back in the 1970s.

[high density]

117. Be afraid everybody!!!

And be sure to remember to vote for the GOP in '08!!! They will keep you safe, while the Democrats are going to let you and your children die a horrid death!

[ohio2007]

119. Watch out for the universal healthcare workers

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273122,00.html

[LeftishBrit]

121. "DON'T trust him - he's a doctor!!" - yes, I can just see it.

[Eugene]

122. Guardian: Glasgow suspect moved to burns unit (Australian police raid hospitals)

Source: The Guardian

1.15pm update
Glasgow suspect moved to burns unit

· Man still in critical condition after airport attack
· Australian police seize files in hospital raids

James Sturcke and agencies
Friday July 6, 2007
Guardian Unlimited

The suspect fighting for his life after the attempted car bomb
attack on Glasgow airport was today transferred to a specialist
burns unit.

Kafeel Ahmed, 27, doused himself in petrol and set light to
himself at the airport on Saturday.

-snip-

In a separate development today, police in Australia raided two
hospitals and seized 31,000 documents. Detectives also revealed
that inquiries in Australia - where the Indian doctor Mohammed
Haneef was arrested in Queensland on Monday - had widened to
a third state, New South Wales.

The Australian federal police commissioner, Mick Keelty, said
four search warrants had been executed in Western Australia
and a number of people were being interviewed in connection
with the London and Glasgow conspiracy.

-snip-

It was initially thought that Mr Ahmed was a medical doctor.
However, it was reported today that he has a doctorate in
aeronautical engineering and has studied at Queen's University
in Belfast and Anglia Polytechnic University in Cambridge.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,2120240,00.html