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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:22 PM
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Study finds smoking wards off Parkinson's disease
Source: Reuters

There is more evidence to back up a long-standing theory that smokers are less likely to develop Parkinson's disease than people who do not use tobacco products, researchers reported on Monday.

The apparent protective effect of tobacco against the degenerative nerve disease has been observed for years but a University of California Los Angeles School of Public Health report said a new review of existing studies seems to confirm it, with long-term and current smokers at the lowest risk.

The review also found that the effect seems to extend beyond cigarettes to pipes and cigars, and possibly to chewing tobacco, and that it persisted among those who had stopped smoking years earlier.

What would cause such a preventive effect is not well understood, said the report in the Archives of Neurology, but studies on test animals suggested two possibilities.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070709/hl_nm/smoking_parkinsons_dc



Well this is...good news I guess. :smoke:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:26 PM
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1. but what about smoking pot?
any impact?

I've had parkinson's clients who claim it slowed their disease process and eased their symptoms. Of course Merck cannot profit from that.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:32 PM
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2. Hmmm ... lung cancer/emphysema or Parkinsons?
which to choose, which to choose ...
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:33 PM
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3. Beat me to it
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:39 PM
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5. I watched COPD kill my mother
I'll risk the Parkinson's, thanks
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:12 PM
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16. Sorry about your mom.
That's a horrible way to go.

I didn't mean to be flippant ... :(
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:34 PM
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22. Hey, I think I beat you in the flippant department
This research is so preliminary that it's worthless information to those of us out here in computerland.

Years down the road, they will probably isolate the compound or compounds that protect the substantia nigra and either delay or prevent Parkinson's.

Until then, smoking is a dumb thing to do. If you can quit, do.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:59 PM
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25. And then, unless we change the Health Care system
Big Pharma will steal our research and charge us an arm and a leg for those compounds...
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:35 PM
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4. Maybe it's something simple, like the nicotine.
In which case a nicotine patch might help?
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:41 PM
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Maybe because you die younger, and the degenerative
illness never sets in? I'd have to assume they try to factor that out...
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:41 PM
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6. Maybe because you die younger, and the degenerative
illness never sets in? I'd have to assume they try to factor that out...
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:41 PM
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7. Maybe because you die younger, and the degenerative
illness never sets in? I'd have to assume they try to factor that out...
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:46 PM
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9. Did you trade Parkinson's for Alzheimer's?
:rofl:
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 01:44 AM
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27. Maybe I'm missing something?
Parkinson's disease may appear at any age, but the average age of onset is 60.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:27 AM
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31. I think you did miss the joke
when you posted the same message three times, I thought you were being funny; acting as if you had short term memory loss.
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:03 AM
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32. Omg. I didn't notice.
I'm gonna replace my old mouse.

If it happens again, i'm going in for a check-up...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:46 PM
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10. Let's find out. How old are you?
Maybe because you die younger, and the degenerative illness never sets in? I'd have to assume they try to factor that out...

Maybe because you die younger, and the degenerative illness never sets in? I'd have to assume they try to factor that out...

Maybe because you die younger, and the degenerative illness never sets in? I'd have to assume they try to factor that out...
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:45 PM
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8. Is it true that stem cells may fight the aging process?
Farnsworth: Uh, ma'am, it has become too much of a chore for me to clean out my wrinkles each day. Is it true that stem cells may fight the aging process?

Geneworks Woman: Well, yes. In the same way an infant may fight Muhammad Ali. But--

Farnsworth: One pound of stem cells, please.

- Futurama, "Three Hundred Big Boys" (episode 416)

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:48 PM
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11. Death halts the aging process. nt
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:50 PM
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12. But only for so long.
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 05:53 PM
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13. Take your choice, parkinson's, emphysema or cancer.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:03 PM
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14. They die before Parkinsons sets in.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:04 PM
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15. My 96-year-old grandmother...
still all there, outlived three of her four kids, half a dozen husbands and still puts away two packs a day.

I think her cigarettes are not of this Earth...hell maybe she isn't.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:18 PM
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19. Uh, what did those others die of?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 05:17 PM
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36. All the men on my dad's side--including my dad & his dad
have died from complications resulting from diabetes within a year or so of 70. They were all diagnosed in their 40s; I'm just past fifty and I don't have it...yet (knocks on wood)

The husbands? Methinks they died from overwork. :evilgrin:
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:14 PM
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17. Not worth the tradeoff
Mark Twain was right. "Quitting smoking is the easiest thing in he world. I've done it a million times."

I've been smoking those damn things for almost half a century. Quit for as long as three years and somehow they end up in my fingers (and lungs) again.

I hate it. And I'd rather risk Parkison's and quit completely than all the other maladies (heh!) linked to tobacco.

Signed... a cancer survivor and admittted idiot (asshole?) who still can't completely stop.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 06:18 PM
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18. Let me guess. The Tobacco indusrty secretly financed these results
LMAO
if ya got em
smoke em
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:58 PM
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20. PIFFLE
My aunt was a dedicated smoker for most of her adult life and she had Parkinson's disease. Wonder if that study was funded by the tobacco companies.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:07 PM
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21. You Know, My Doc Tells Me I'm Not Getting Enough Tar In My Diet!
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 09:07 PM by Beetwasher
And now THIS!? Time to take up smoking!
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MiserableFailure Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:39 PM
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23. plenty of higher risks for other diseases though...
yeah
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 09:58 PM
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24. Still not a good reason to start again...
Edited on Mon Jul-09-07 10:03 PM by ProudDad
Maybe since one of the major causes of Parkinson's appears to be head injuries and since smokers are so physically disabled and less mobile than those of us who can actually breathe, they don't bump their heads as often. :evilgrin: :silly:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 10:15 PM
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26. Wait a sec - Michael J. Fox has Parkisons and btw, he was a heavy smoker
So I'm not holding a whole lot of value in this research. I'd rather not smoke and take my chances with Parkisons then to smoke and go thru the hell that killed my father when he was in his early 40s
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:22 AM
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28. Only speculation at best that there's a causal relationship...
perhaps wishful thinking on the part of the tobacco companies that they might have anything "good" (and honest) to say about their product. Could it be that those smokers who are able to live longer lives have more of a resistance to both Parkinson's and lung cancer?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:30 AM
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29. Research brought to you by Phillip Morris (?)
:sarcasm:
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 02:35 AM
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30. Coffee protects you, too. 3-5 cups a day for your adult life--you'll never get Parkinson's.
Edited on Tue Jul-10-07 03:07 AM by BlueIris
My GP told me about the studies substantiating that after my grandfather was diagnosed. Apparently, researchers think it's something in the coffee, not just the caffeine, that offers you protection from Parkinson's as study subjects who drank similar amounts of caffeinated teas over a lifetime (black tea, etc.) still occasionally came down with Parkinson's. So--ditch the cigs, pick up the Starbucks' instead.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:20 AM
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33. Smokem' if you gottem'! nt
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Speaker Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:04 AM
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34. Perhaps by increasing cerebral blood flow?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/07/010730075130.htm

Maybe nicoderm can help Parkinson's patients.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 11:59 AM
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35. What about Kate?
Didn't the late Katherine Hepburn suffer from Parkinson's? And she used to smoke like a chimney, as I recall.

Exception to the "rule", I guess......
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