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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:14 AM
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Latest China food scare: Bogus buns
Source: AlJazeera

Fake steamed buns made from up to 60 per cent waste paper and cardboard have become the latest food to join a growing list of health scares in China.

The CCTV reporters found vendors chopped up waste cardboard and mixed it with fatty meat to produce the buns, known as "bao zi", in a Beijing backstreet factory.

In the case of the fake buns the CCTV reporters used hidden cameras to show the lengths the bao zi producers were going to in order to cut costs.

To get the right consistency the cardboard was shown being soaked in caustic soda, a poisonous industrial solvent.



Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/EB0A60C6-965E-477B-BB7C-07006982E62D.htm



Considering the efficiency with which China's government shuts and controls media (last example I have: a newsletter shut down, http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/world/asia/11cnd-china.html) and the readiness with which it denies involvement in conditioning the World Bank report on pollution (http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/07/05/news/china.php) I would expect a strong, quick action against these dangerous fakes.

But of course, executing some faker once in a while doesn't demonstrate you're in control of the situation...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:30 AM
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1. Reminder to self: Never travel to China
I have no desire to ever visit this place. :puke:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:08 AM
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13. Tell Republicans there is lots of free sex in China
They will get free food during their time there too.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:03 PM
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25. They don't want it for free. Dems do it for free. They want the lasciviousness
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 12:03 PM by Ilsa
of paying for it, and making special demands along with it. ;)
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 11:34 AM
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47. Aww. i don't like their human rights record, or this stuff, but it's a great place to see.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:31 AM
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2. A -7 for health and nutrition and a +4 for recycling.New math for the new world order. nt
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:40 AM
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7. Don't forget the +2 for population control though. (n/t)
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 03:46 AM
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3. corporate china, like their brethren of corporate america, CAN NOT be trusted........
about anything. Products are made to far less than minimum specifications, emissions and pollution from factories are killing hundreds of thousands of people annually, products manufactured contain known and unknown harmful substances, all violations continue to repeat over and over. Interesting how the NEW GOLD STANDARD in worldwide business has become criminal corruption.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:18 AM
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22. but at least they are willing to execute gov't officials who help them:
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:26 AM
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4. Jesus. Unbelievable. No pitty for these greedy bastards when they are hanged n/t
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:16 AM
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5. The death penalty is barbaric. "Jesus..unbelievable" right back at you
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:10 AM
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20. Maybe I exagerated. But still life emprisonment in poor conditions and no pardon. n/t
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:47 AM
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45. The death penalty is barbaric
But poisoning people all over the world with tainted food isn't?

My, don't we have our priorities straight. :eyes:
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:26 AM
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6. Hmmm. How long until some enterprising chinese actually makes soylent green?
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:42 AM
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8. Have you noticed how popular chicken nuggets are these days?
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 06:43 AM by Nihil
:evilgrin:

(Actually, on edit, I'd prefer they did that than continue to slaughter all
manner of innocent creatures for the sake of food and "traditional cures" ...)
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:03 AM
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10. I am sure it has already been done.
I cannot imagine that thousands of dead Chinese per day are going to 'waste'.
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parkia00 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:33 AM
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15. You're joking right?
There was no :sarcasm: tag so I don't know if you forgot it or you are actually seriously believing what you just said? So what are you saying then? Chinese people are cannibals!??! Dead Chinese are minced up into food and fed to the people?!? Next thing you now people will be saying there are human farms in China breeding people to export meat to Mars!
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:05 AM
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19. I think the poster was indicating that it might be fed to the
Chinese people without them realizing it.

You have to admit, this stuff gets more outrageous every day. "Soylent green" seems to be not that far away.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:12 AM
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21. Not so impossible. A chinese restaurant in Portugal was caught ...
serving dogs caught in the streets, as beef.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:11 PM
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27. I was saying nothing would surprise me
Sorry, I seem to have upset the Chinese Chamber of Commerce. Next time, I will be sure to use the sarcasm tag for the benefit of those who are sarcasm impaired.

And frankly, it wouldn't surprise me for a second if we found out the Chinese were rendering the dead and using the protein. It is frankly not that big of a jump. There is already human hair in the gluten they sell and the bread they produce domestically, and human derived urea is also used by some manufacturing processes.

So, yeah, I guess I am suggesting that the complete lack of standards in China has led me to assert that it wouldn't surprise me if their complete lack of human rights was, well...complete.
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parkia00 Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:22 PM
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33. Well I just wanted to be certain
It's hard to tell who's serious and who's simply stirring the pot these days about dubious Chinese products with all the howls of protest about the latest Chinese evils. For the record I'm not the the Chamber of Commerce but just a guy that believes one should be careful not to label anything and everything from one place as bad just because some of those things are.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:37 PM
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35. Actually, it's the SOY SAUCE that's got
HUMAN HAIR in the brew!!! "STRA-A-A-NGE BRE-E-W... killing what's inside of you..."

You can't make this stuff up!

Here, try this:

http://www.sinosplice.com/life/archives/2004/02/19/soy-sauce-from-human-hair

or this!

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/4292/
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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:27 AM
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31. wait, the chinese are on mars?
I want to go... I'll bring my own food though.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:04 AM
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42. I want to go too.. ....
I'll lose weight by not eating!;)
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:29 PM
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37. Go back and watch Soylent Green again
Soylent Green had three themes: overpopulation, the divide between rich and poor, and conspiracy.

Look at what's happening over there. If there's unadulterated food on a Chinese table, it's there because the Chinese family grew it themselves. You've got paper pulp in these buns, industrial chemicals in flour being sold as high-grade gluten...just a new revelation every week.

The next step in the US if this was happening here would be finding out someone's catching cats, butchering them, shredding the meat and selling it as shredded chicken. They eat cats on purpose in China, so if you were selling cat you'd label it as such. Hence, the idea that someone could sell Soylent Green in its ultimate form and get away with it in China, at least for a little while, isn't that strange.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:36 AM
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43. Do they really "eat cats on purpose in China"?
Maybe they do.... I don't know, do Chinese restaurants serve "cat meat" on menus?
I'm so naive about these things. I've never been there, sadly.
I know the Chinese eat cats, but, how big is the Chinese market for "cat meat"?
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 01:50 AM
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46. The market for cat and dog meat is huge
Endangered animals are also routinely trapped, sold as pets, killed for their fur, or even used as meat, to be sold throughout many Asian countries, incl. China.

Animal Planet, particularly host Jeff Corwin, has done a lot of exposes on the endangered animal trade. And yes, domestic animals are on the menu, as well. :(
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DotGone Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:48 AM
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9. Was Anthony Wong the baker?
Because I'm starting to get an Untold Story vibe. Soylent buns. *drool*
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:22 AM
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11. Merely the tip of the iceberg
The vast majority of food suppliers in China are unregulated and rarely inspected.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:28 AM
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12. soylent green, and the efficiency of corporate totalitarianism
disgusting
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:12 AM
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14. Ah will the wonders of globalization and the "flat earth" theory ever cease?
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:46 AM
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16. I don't feel so bad buying $137 in groceries yesterday now...
At least I know the buns I bought are made out of, um, bread....
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 04:42 PM
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28. I buy actual, real, identifiable hard red winter wheat kernels and grind
them fresh myself to use in my bread. And my white flour is organic, US-source.

I have no further interest in eating food imported from ANYWHERE (except of course coffee and chocolate, lol).
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:50 AM
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17. For what it's worth,
my recipe for buns/rolls. Quick, cheap and YOU control the ingredients:

3 cups + 4 Tbs. warm water.
2 Tbs. butter*
3-1/4 cups flour*
1 Tbs. sugar*
1-1/2 tsp. salt
2-1/2 tsp. fast-acting yeast.

For Breadmakers
Add ingredients in the order listed and set to "French" setting. (Note: Dough will be very wet.) After SECOND kneed, take out dough, form into 8 (roughly) equal rolls, place into lubricated baking pan, place damp towel over the dough and place in warm, dry place for 45 min. to 1 hour.
Bake at 425 degrees for 16-17 minutes.

Sans Breadmaker
Add ingredients in the order listed. Before adding yeast, make a hole in the middle of the flour to add yeast. Try not to let the yeast come in direct contact with the water or the salt -- these will be mingled gradually. Either by hand or with a dough hook attached to your mixer, GRADUALLY mix ingredients together until will mixed. Kneed the dough until "fluffy" (dough will be wet). Form in loaf, place damp towel over the dough and let rise for 1 hour. Kneed dough again, section off and form into 8 rolls and let rise again for 45 min. to 1 hour.
Bake at 425 degrees for 16-17 minutes.

*Margarine can replace butter, wheat flour can replace white flour and honey or other sweetener can replace sugar.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:01 AM
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18. No offense, but ...
This recipe is severely lacking in cardboard-y goodness.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:06 PM
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29. Not enough caustic soda either.
How could they miss out such an important ingredient?

:P

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:19 AM
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23. "Ever eat a pine tree? Many parts are edible."
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Rabbit of Caerbannog Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:38 AM
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24. NOTE TO SELF... (and others)
Buy local!

BTW - several U.S bread makers include "cellulose fiber" in their products to up the fiber content. But christ - 60%?! and from waste cardboard? :puke:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:53 PM
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40. How and where do we get a list of the companies selling food from China?
I want to know what company puts it's logo on the front of these buns. What company puts it's logo on the front of the tainted toothpaste. This information needs to be plastered all over and told to everyone you know.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 12:54 AM
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44. Yes it's good for diarrhea, I suppose!
Sh***ing entire tree branches, that is.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 12:11 PM
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26.  Chinese food 'made from cardboard' (AP/CNN)
***
"You mean 60 percent cardboard? What is the other 40 percent?" asks the reporter. "Fatty meat," the man replies.
***
Squares of cardboard picked from the ground are first soaked to a pulp in a plastic basin of caustic soda -- a chemical base commonly used in manufacturing paper and soap -- then chopped into tiny morsels with a cleaver. Fatty pork and powdered seasoning are stirred in.

Soon, steaming servings of the buns appear on the screen. The reporter takes a bite.

"This baozi filling is kind of tough. Not much taste," he says. "Can other people taste the difference?"

"Most people can't. It fools the average person," the maker says. "I don't eat them myself."
***
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/07/12/cardboard.food.ap/index.html
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:11 PM
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30. Come on now, give the "free market" a chance to work and it will take care of itself.
:sarcasm:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 10:43 AM
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32. China trade = poison trade
they are terrorists and our government supports them
http://youtube.com/watch?v=r6D8NsXLDpo
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 12:29 PM
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34. This reminds me of the last time I was in China
About 4 years ago my husband and I went to China to bring home our daughter. She is from Hubei province and we had to go to Wuhan, the provincial capital, to finalized the adoption and get her. We were there for 5 or 6 days, eating out at various restaurants. One green leafy vegetable was common in many of the dishes, had kind of a sharpish taste, but was edible, sort of. One of the other parents asked our guide/minder what it was. His response - Wuhan vegetable.

A year later one of my collegues came back from her posting in Beijing and asked how the adoption had gone. I told her the "Wuhan vegetable" story. She laughed and said, oh, yeah, - weeds.

Yum - weeds, it's what for lunch.

We have promised our daughter that we will go back to China with her when she older - probably in 7 or 8 years when she's 12 or 13, so she will remember it. I have to say with reading all the recent stories about Chinese quality control I'm not as thrilled about going as I had been.
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:51 PM
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39. Weeds are ok, healthier and fresher than corporately grown vegs
We eat lots of wild plants that others may consider weeds. For example, steamed stinging nettle leaves in the spring tastes as good as spinach and is chock full of vitamins. Dandelion leaves are a delicacy for some but I find them a bit too bitter.

On the other hand, cardboard buns are disgusting. I'm off all China products and will stick to my weeds.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 01:57 PM
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36. This is what I call efficient
...vendors chopped up waste cardboard and mixed it with fatty meat to produce the buns

Imagine...making your food item and the package to send it in from the same ingredient!
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 04:34 PM
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38. damn, I hate bogus buns!!
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 04:39 PM by GTRMAN


I always feel so cheated when I find out baby really doesn't have back... :hide:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:19 PM
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41. I guess Buns of Steel were too expensive.
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