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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:39 PM
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U.S. Upset by Russia's Pullout of Treaty
Source: Associated Press

Russia's plan to quit an arms control treaty tightens already tense ties with the U.S. and adds new friction to the dispute over the Bush administration's intentions for a missile defense system in Eastern Europe.

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"We're disappointed Russia has suspended its participation for now, but we'll continue to have discussions with them in the coming months on the best way to proceed in this area that is in the interest of all parties involved and provides for security in Europe," Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said in a brief statement.

--A senior administration official, who only spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the issue publicly, said the U.S. already had started talking with the Russians and other parties to try to reach an understanding that so that after 150 days, Moscow does not actually pull out of the treaty.

The official acknowledged that the treaty issue was at least indirectly linked to the missile defense issue, but said the administration was moving forward to resolve that dispute.



Read more: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireStory?id=3378186&page=2
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:40 PM
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1. Pot: Meet kettle
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:40 PM
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2. Um, haven't we ignored every treaty we've ever made? nt
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:46 PM
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3. In related news...
Cletus J. Wifebeater is upset that his wife has taken the kids and moved in with her sister.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:52 PM
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4. Yummm.... mangoes! n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 07:57 PM
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5. December 2001, Bush pulled out of the ABM treaty so Putin just followed *'s precedent. n/t
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 09:45 PM
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6. Let's see, Georgie, didn't Pooty poot warn you against the missles
in former USSR provinces? How many treaties have you refused to honor? How quaint that two can play that game!
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 05:31 AM
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13. WTG W once again
Didn't have to fuck up the planet for naught but war profiteering.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:22 PM
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7. bush knows....
....talking is a waste of time....

'...U.S. already had started talking with the Russians and other parties to try to reach an understanding...'

....we need to get serious; w should add Russia to his 'Axis of Evil List', make a speech and then send a copy to Putin with a warning: if Russia doesn't shape up soon, we'll invade and occupy Moscow and then surge all over the place....
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 10:56 PM
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8. Someone REMBEMBER AMB TREATY????
Hello

Someone rembember the old AMB Treaty who mangaged to get the "madnes" of a nuclear holocaust under control in the old days when even US was seeing the reason for a treaty?? Even a semi-senil Reagan with "starwars" on his head was not doing that mistake.. But then US have fear for the Russian weapon... They dont now, and thats maybee they are so "sorry about the pull out". They forget their own pullout of a treaty who was respected and in full understandig in the world..

.. And the worst part is they cant blame it on "liberals" either..

And what happenend in 2001, when mr Bush pulled out of a old, and proven treaty to build his great "son of starwars" program?.. Who have to proven itself... And the test have been far from the expected results, if I have to be blunt...
The Russians warned that if US PULLED OUT OF THE AMB TREATY then it wil be conseqenses.. and here they are.. God jobb "boy king" George.. Realy heck of a job, you and your Administrastion have been doing lately...

Thanks lord, he is out of office in a year and a halfs time.. America was going to the rock botton with this man, they can't elect a leader who are worse than mr Bush.. He cant do a lot more damage to the world... He just can't??

Diclotican
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 11:52 PM
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9. HI Diclotican
and welcome to the DU!:wave:

Very nice post. And I agree: there is NO one who could have been worse than Bush. No one. Ever.

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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 11:38 PM
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15. hello

Thank you for your kind word;)

Yes, I belive US was going to the rock bottom with mr Bush.. He may bee the worst President in the history of the United States of America ever.. If hi is was not to be "retired" in a years time or so, he had manage do destroy the suport you have left in the rest of the world.. Many in US belive in that everthing that is made in US are the best.. But even the Chinese are building things that are as god as anything US can build.. Wel maybee not weapon - yet.. They still have a road to go there...

But they make cars that is equal to US cars, to a lower pricetag.. Even the Japanese Toyota are beating US where it most hurt, in the car- industry.. Ford maybee be a good builder of big SUV, but with the gasonline price in the prizetag of maybee 6 dollar pr liter, you dont go for a SUV, but for a smart little japanse car...

But, anywhow.. In a years time Mr Bush is out of office.. And then the world can get a releef for that madman that hi is.. Myabee the whole consept of "neo-conservatism" wil blow up and destroy itself, when it it prowen who bad their policy really was.. As Nazism, Facsism, and kommunism was before them.. They are shattered to the backside of history, and never managede to doing some like that again...
If the Senat and Congress and the juridacy have some "bone" in them, they vil work overtime to get the creatures of this Administration under lock and key, when baby boy Bush jr is out... They are many, and they have doing some ugly crimes.. And deserve a time in prisson.

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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:42 AM
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17. Welcome, but don't put it past him...
Remember that this is a guy who holds "the football" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Football) to blow up the entire fucking world whenever GOD tells him "IT'S RAPTURE TIME!"
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 02:32 AM
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10. If Russia were smart, it would suspend participation in all arms treaties.
They need to use all means to force the US to return to the ABM treaty and to maintain strategic parity, which is the foundation for stability in Europe. People are fooling themselves if they think hot war in Europe isn't possible.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 04:54 AM
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11. I am upset about a pupet like bush being president n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 05:20 AM
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12. It was a measured response to shrub's missile rattling.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 03:18 PM
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14. Define 'upset' please. If the definition you're using is 'don't really give a
damn what you do' then I think that statement captures the bush** admin sentiments perfectly.
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TheLastMohican Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:54 AM
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16. Russia is pulling out of a treaty
Russia is pulling out of a treaty which none of the NATO countries has ratified anyways.
The only country who ratified this treaty is RUSSIA!!!!

So Russia has nobody at the negotiating table to talk to. Good for them that they withdrew from this treaty, because the encirclement of Russia by NATO bases continues plus this ABM site in Poland and Czech Republic.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:47 AM
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18. Darth Cheney is happy.
It means more profits for arms manufacturers and Halliburton.
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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:49 AM
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19. yeah, and what can we do about it?
it's not like the world is going to sit quietly by and not take advantage of the weak position Chimpy has put us in...god that man is a dumbass...
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 09:57 AM
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20. Do as we say; not as we do!
Bu$hco.
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