Ex-Bush donor hosts Clinton fundraiser (Bush Ranger)

[RamboLiberal]

Source: Financial Times

John Mack, Morgan Stan­ley’s chief executive, is to invite senior staff to a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton on Monday, in a pointed endorse­ment of the Democratic presidential hopeful from an important backer of President George W. Bush in 2004.

Mrs Clinton, a New York senator, is scheduled to appear at the fundraiser on the 41st floor of Morgan Stanley’s headquarters in Times Square.

The minimum donation for the event is $1,000 (€726, £492) per person but Mr Mack urged those attending to give $4,600, the maximum for the 2008 presidential campaign.

Mr Mack surprised many on Wall Street in the spring when he said he and his wife, Christy, would support Mrs Clinton’s 2008 bid. The announcement was made after heavy courting by Mrs Clinton, who raised $27m in the second quarter.

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Mr Mack was a “Ranger” for Mr Bush in 2004, meaning he helped raise at least $200,000 for the president’s re-election bid.






Read more: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/33446d20-32ef-11dc-a9e8-0000779fd2ac.html

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Another reason Clinton is not my first choice. I'd vote for her in the general but no way in the primary (and I'm hoping my state legislators in PA will make our primary relevant).

[deutsey]

1. "I like the puppet the right." "No, the puppet on the left is more to my liking." Bill Hicks

Maybe not a verbatim quote, but I got the gist of it.

We all focus so much on the puppets but very little on the puppetmaster that makes both puppets dance.

[LiberalFighter]

2. The maximum is $2,300 for each election period. A primary and general

are considered separate election periods.

They cannot contribute $4,600 all at one time. And the maximum must be recorded for the period received.

[John Q. Citizen]

4. That would be husband and wife I expect.

[Malva Zebrina]

3. That's the way "campaigns" are won

especially if you want to be president. Millions upon millions upon millions of dollars from doners who are abandoning Bush now, because, well because his numbers are down in the twenty somethings. Step right up Hillary.

Yup, wannabe a president. Just get those millions upon millions of dollars, and feel real good about yourself winning the "election"

[IndianaGreen]

5. Wall Street loves Hillary, just as Rupert Murdoch did.

They want to make sure our future Queen does not do anything to change American neoliberal trade policies.

Hillary courts the ruling class, but she ignores the working class while only paying lip service to its concerns.

[MannyGoldstein]

7. They Love Her Because She's A Progressive!

She'll fight tooth and nail for the Middle Class. She'll keep our children safe from war, and protect us from offshoring jobs.

[spotbird]

10. It is disgusting

that as things look today we'll have to chose between two Republicans next election.

I.will.never.vote.for.Hillary. Never.

[emilyg]

39. I will vote for Hillary

or any other democrat nominated

[spotbird]

44. If a Democrat is nominated

I will vote for him, or her. But Hillary isn't in that group.

[mitchum]

50. I will vote for a Democrat, but I will not vote for Hillary Clinton

[CoffeeCat]

54. I will never vote for Hillary either...

...if she's our nominee, I'll assume that the Democratic
party has gone completely mad.

Rome is burning. We don't need a politician who will throw
more gasoline on the fire.

[motocicleta]

11. you forgot the sarcasm smilie

[MannyGoldstein]

14. Ooops. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. "She'll keep our children safe from war" ???

Oh so that's why she voted to invade Iraq!!

[MannyGoldstein]

19. OK - She Was A Little Confused

She thought that we were invading them with LOVE. And she learned a valuable lesson: you should never vote on a bill while 'shrooming and listening to "Magical Mystery Tour" on the iPod.

She's very, very sorry.

[Changenow]

20. LOL

"She's very, very sorry."

Not. The jokes on us. hee hee. ;)

[ProudDad]

37. You forgot your little sarcasm thingie

Here, you can borrow one of mine... :sarcasm:

[AndyTiedye]

34. They'd Love for Hillary To Win the PRIMARY

They are backing Hillary because they know she would LOSE the GENERAL election!

[IndianaGreen]

41. There is that polarizing aspect to her, but more importantly

people have already made up their minds about Hillary, so there are very few people left that Hillary can woo over to her side.

[Stephanie]

43. That's not the only Bush Ranger who's supported her.

She had a fundraiser thrown for her last summer at the Wyoming ranch of a Bush supporter who'd previously held a fundraiser for George Bush, featuring Cheney as guest speaker. I'm trying to search the guy's name, it's not turning up. He was in the armored limousine business, IIRC.

[spotbird]

58. please post if you find it

A Republican for Hillary in Cheney country implies approval at the highest levels.

[BigDDem]

64. In other news...

Hillary STILL leads her nearest competitor by double digits.

[clixtox]

6. Hilary Promises No Changes...

In the "Set-Up". Corporations will continue to pull the strings of our fascist system that will screw the people, fight illegal wars plus kowtow towards the health insurance, pharmaceutical and banking industries plus the military-industrial complex.

There is nothing in her agenda for working people or the poor except some measly crumbs.

Other than her gender at birth, she is a woman, I don't understand why anyone who is truly a Democrat would support her candidacy.

While she doesn't say that, of course, if she is elected everything will be pretty much the same as it has been recently and we will all be screwed over for sure!

Unless you are very rich...

Remarkable, isn't it, how so many voters will make choices that are inimical(hostile) to their own best interests. Most folks who vote Rethuglican would be in this group.

Are you?

[papau]

8. She is life long liberal progressive - read up on her life and the causes she's pushed before

you claim otherwise.

Her agenda is laid out in detailed position papers (health care has a 28 page cost savings paper out now and improve quality of care paper and a change system to universal paper due out in the fall)

What is the policy for "working people or the poor" that you want supported. Does any candidate support that policy?

[eyeontheprize]

12. The Goldwater Girl?

No way life long, if she is now progressive.

[papau]

28. Read her College speech at graduation, her high school Goldwater girl did not

last long -

Indeed one of our best progressive radio persons had a father that ran for vice president with Goldwater in 1964 - Stephanie Miller

[ProudDad]

38. Can you give us the complete list of

"Progressives" who've been on the board of Wal-Mart???

[papau]

55. The media has reports of her fight for women in the Walmart corporation - google is your

friend -

You will also find that while Sam was alive, Sam tried to treat his employees well - it was after his death (and she had left the board) that WalMart became more than just another anti-union corporation and really began to screw their employees.

[spotbird]

60. Her "help" how?

Sound and fury....

[ProudDad]

65. And dick cheney

is doubtless very kind to his goldfish...

[ikojo]

15. Although Hillary does not suppor those who depend

upon a paycheck to survive, you can bet your sweet bippy (whatever a bippy is) that the unions will be all out for Hillary or whichever corporatist wins the "democratic" primary.

[Changenow]

22. And that's the problem

the choice is worse or worse.

[papau]

32. Hillary supports unions as do all our candidates - and has outlined her support at union meetings as

have all our candidates.

The word "corporatist" you use no doubt refers to the lack of Federal financing for our elections, with corporate and other money banned - and indeed you are correct that under the current system, those that give you money get access - just look at Nader and the GOP for proof of that these days.

[ProudDad]

40. The CORPORATE unions will support her

and here's why:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taft-Hartley_Act

The death of the Labor Movement in this country...

[juajen]

48. Yeah, just like we were screwed during Bill's tenure.

Six years of gwb should tell everybody just how good we had it in the 90's.

Hillary needs the support of a lot of people to win the presidency. I will also support any democrat who wins the nomination; but, Hillary is the one who can win.

[MetaTrope]

9. Not to say either way who's out to manipulate whom

But Morgan Stanley certainly seems to know what direction the wind is blowing.

[Deep13]

27. The one writing the check is the one who gets to call the shots. nt

[ikojo]

13. Hillary and her corporate backers could care

less who we vote for in the primary. They are happy to hear you and others will vote for the corporate candidate de jour in the general election. Keep voting corporate and then wonder why nothing changes.


Oy vey!

The definition of insanity...doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

[KoKo]

17. Bill, Hillary and Robert Rubin....with the coming "Depression" we will need a Firm Hand

at the Till...and who better than Bill and Hillary. Bill the President and Hillary the Shadow Cheney.

OOP'S! I mean Hillary the President and Bill as the Shadow Cheney....or...did I get it all screwed up?

:eyes:

[rpannier]

18. It's not that uncommon for people with money to 'hedge their bets'

That being said: If I was running, I'd take his money. Then I'd kick his ass to the curb.

[Changenow]

21. Morgan Stan­ley’s chief executive,

is likely not a fool when he makes judgments like these.

[ikojo]

23. Maybe you would kick the guy to the curb

but he KNOWS Hillary will do his bidding as well as the bidding of corporate America. The CEO's politics haven't changed; he just wants to ensure that his calls are still answered at the white house regardless of which corporate stooge sits in the oval office.

[madrchsod]

24. ahhh ....is`t that sweet

johnny mack is putting his money on hillary. i guess we all know who is going to win next year.

money talks and the great unwashed walks....

[BobRossi]

25. Still helping the pukes.

What a guy.

[Deep13]

26. Someday, someone will explain why this is a good thing. nt

[Changenow]

30. That's not possible,

because it isn't a good thing.

[trashcanistanista]

29. It would be worth a lot more to her in

terms of getting votes and respect if she turned him down. Sometimes money isn't everything.

[bluestateguy]

31. And yet Obama continues to beat her in fundraising

:rofl:

[ProudDad]

42. From a hell of a lot more people

I have much more respect for Obama.

Hillary gets her dough from large donations from the few, the rich...

[Cant trust em]

33. Does anyone know other names of Bush fundraising levels?

Mr Mack was a “Ranger” for Mr Bush in 2004, meaning he helped raise at least $200,000 for the president’s re-election bid.

This is just so goofy. What else did he have; skipper, guardian, watchman? Who comes up with this corny crap?

[Divine Discontent]

46. hey now...

woh, be careful, you're making fun of their S.S. nicknames names now, that could get you in trouble. The Skipper is Dick, Guardian is Chertoff, Watchman is Rove, you left out Condi who is know as Condian the Barbarian!


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<--- top '08 items & antib*sh stickers!

[Diane R]

35. This is why I dug down and donated to Obama. Hillary will be Bush lite.

[Deep13]

53. Isn't Obama as much of an economic "centrist" as HRC?

Plus, at least I know HRC can do the job. Frankly, none of the so-called leading candidates seem very promising to me. As of now, I have no horse in this race. :-(

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

36. Of course Mack the Knife supports Hillary!

What better way to assure a republican win?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_the_Knife
snip~ Morgan Stanley CEO John J. Mack once put on a shark costume and sang "Mack the Knife" at a charity event, a feat that reportedly raised $75,000.

Mack the Knife on YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBTITHA8twI

In RE: the shark costume Mack wore ~~ 'And, you know, the thing about a shark... he's got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll's eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn't seem to be living... until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then... ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'~~
I'd be careful of this couple if I were you, Hill.

edit to add~ I can not vote for Hillary in any election. I'm looking for a combo of Kucinich , Paul, and Feingold, and I'll write it in if I have too. & Dang gone Gore ain't running.

sidenote: second time I've not been able to get the corrected spelling of Kucinich with the spellcheck on this site.

[OHdem10]

45. Wall Street prefers a government in which Republican

House and Senate and Democratic President. The Republicans will
get their way on most things but having a Democratic President
slows them down so they do not overreach.

It is amost more important that we elect more Dem. Senators
and Congressmen, than be so darn hung up and putting everything
into the Presidency.

Right now if we had had a unified strong Senate and House
with a an understanding of the importance of TV, we would
be much farther ahead. Even with the tight margin.

[struggle4progress]

47. Here's Mack's campaign contribution history

http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/John_Mack.php

It's a weird list. Tens of thousands of dollars for Republican Party building. A collection of nasty right-wing extremists like Saxby Chamblis and Duncan "Lauch" Faircloth and Phil Gramm. The occasional $1000 thrown to Rahm or Rauh (now of the Reform Party) fits that picture

Then there's the occasional $1000 thrown to a Democrat like Mrazek (who gave up a House seat after many terms to run for Senator (NY), a campaign that fell apart immediately during the primary season) or the donations to Bowles for Senator (NC) -- which I'd count as trying to help throw an election to the Rs, especially since the other NC donations are to nutcase Rs.

Mack's not on our side. I think he's pushing Clinton because he thinks the Rs can clobber her.

[Divine Discontent]

52. DING DING DING

last sentence... spot on.

Look, I know many people love Hillary here, and that's not being facetious, really there are a bunch of HRC supporters. I'm mildy supportive of her myself, but this wall streeter raising big money for her speaks volumes - he's patting her on the back and smiling while a dagger is showing out of his sleeve, so to speak. they want HRC to run on our side because she CANNOT, WILL NOT, HAS NO CHANCE in Florida, Ohio, Missouri, and will struggle to win Illinois, Wisconsin & Washington - we barely won the governorship out in that one, you think Hillary can garner even 25% of the rural Washington vote? Hardly. My brother and all his coworkers that are moderate dems are already saying they're voting for GIULIANI if she's our candidate.

WAKE UP (to those that aren't already in the choir)

[hatrack]

59. Thank you! Just like Murdoch hosting a fundraiser . . .

Get her into the nomination, then let slip the hounds of sleaze.

[spotbird]

61. It's a win-win

the best bet it she insures a Republican victory. If not, well, what's the loss?

[ooglymoogly]

49. Just keep an eye out for any big military jets or missiles that look like

commercial airlines flying in underneath the 41st floor.

[baghdad_bush]

51. Hillary has my wife's vote...

I'm still not sure whom I'll vote for except it won't be a friggin rePUKE!!!

[Divine Discontent]

56. welcome to DU, baghdad_bush

:hi:

[emilyg]

63. welcome - hi to your wife

[Vidar]

57. The corporate thieves own both sides.

[tomp]

62. clinton: next best thing to bush. nt

[superconnected]

66. because she and bush represent the same people.

I still miss bill though.