Weapon Found On Jersey City Lawn, In Flight Path Of Newark Airport

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Source: CBS 2

CBS2 Exclusive: Feds Seize Rocket Launcher In N.J.
BREAKING NEWS:

Scott Weinberger
Reporting

(CBS) JERSEY CITY A Jersey City woman made a shocking discovery on her lawn this morning when she noticed a military rocket launcher lying in the grass.

Niranjana Besai was leaving her house at 88 Nelson Street, to go to work at just after 8 a.m. when she saw the launcher on her front lawn. She immediately called police.

Besai's neighbor, Joe Quinn, saw her pointing at the equipment from her front porch. When he walked over to the six-foot-long weapon, he was just as shocked. “It looked like a bazooka,” he told CBS 2 News.

Quinn tells CBS 2 HD he originally thought the launcher was just a pipe, but after noticing it had a picture of a soldier on it, he realized it looked similar to a missile launcher he'd seen on television.



Read more: http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_201113005.html

[aquart]

1. "A picture of a soldier"?

[Kingshakabobo]

15. Probably. And a message "point this end at enemy." n/t

[karlrschneider]

16. "Keep out of reach of children..."

good grief...

[Kingshakabobo]

18. More like this...

[CANDO]

54. Those are Claymore Mines

Used for perimeter defense or to set along trails with trip wires. Widely used in Vietnam.

[Kingshakabobo]

55. I understand. I was pointing out the silly fact that deadly weapons....

.....need to have directions "front end toward enemy" etc. Another poster was wondering why there would be a picture of a soldier on a rocket launcher.

[happyslug]

25. The old LAW anti-tank Rocket had instructions with PICTURES

So I am thinking it is an LAw Rocket (Or just the tube). The LAW was a one shot Rocket launcher that was to be tossed away whenever the Rocket was fired. The Russians made a copy of it.

The issue is this "Rocket" just the tube (Which you can buy on line, or use to the last time I looked) or the tube WITH A ROCKET (Which you can NOT BUY legally anywhere)? If it is the later (Rocket and tube) it is a clear danger sign, if it is the former (Just the Tube) a mere scare tactic (i.e. put an empty tube near a runway and watch Security go nuts).

More on the LAW:
http://world.guns.ru/grenade/gl12-e.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M72_LAW

[Phrogman]

53. Claymores came with a comic book instruction manual!

quite obviously geared for use by the lowest common denominator.

[happyslug]

56. Most item in vietnam came with a comic with a well drawn blond

The comic was to keep the soldier's attention, well some instruction was taught in the comic. It was (and is) effective, through when I was in in the 1980s she was drawn with full BDUs not the skimpy dress she had on in the 1960s.

Anyway, my point was DRAWING ON THE WEAPON, not the instructions. That is what was REPORTED on whatever was seen. Even claymores had writing saying "This side to Enemy"m but these were more reminders than instructions.

[davepc]

28. there's an illustration on the tube warning the operator about the back-blast

if you stand in a 60 degree cone behind the launcher when it's fired you'll get injured by the blast of the rocket as it exits the launcher.

[truthisfreedom]

2. Interesting.

[C_U_L8R]

3. Boo

Wonder what they'll find up Bush's butt... Saddam's WMDs???

[Vilis Veritas]

4. Nothing to see here...move along...move along...nt

[tanyev]

5. And Cheney's in charge tomorrow. Hmmm...

:tinfoilhat:

[Knightly_Knews]

57. Alot of Flamers here...

The reason the story concerned many of us is that it's probably just another part of the False Flag propaganda from the Neocon Fucktards..
Just because someone posts an article does not mean they believe it's details.. I posted this same story this morning.. Just find it odd.. and why was it on CNN and not Faux? Very unusual..

Trust me, I don't buy the terra terra bullshit any more than any of you do.

[dipsydoodle]

6. Maybe it was just a

ballista ? :shrug:

[Squatch]

7. "In the flight path"? Well...not really.

Link

[karlrschneider]

13. Flight path to the Lincoln Tunnel maybe

:eyes:

[slackmaster]

27. It would be hard to find a location in any major city that isn't kind of sort of

In a flight path.

[progressoid]

8. Hmmm...

White supremacists?

Anti New World Order Militia?

[Warren Stupidity]

9. This story needs a serious fact checking.

Right now everything about it screams:

TOTAL BULLSHIT

But I could be wrong.

[acmavm]

10. Was KKKarl in the general vicinity last night? Maybe he left it

there.

Their propaganda campaign isn't going to far so maybe KKKarl decided to take out a passenger plane or two.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. Gosh I must run out and check my lawn just in case someone has put one there

just checked no it's OK there's not one there

[slackmaster]

12. OK, it's a piece of PVC pipe with a sticker of a soldier on it

:eyes:

At most a spent launcher with no live round in it.

[karlrschneider]

14. Those terists are sure getting absent-minded...

"Hey, Ahmed, do you remember where I put the rocket launcher down, I can't find it"

:eyes:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

49. lol

[robinlynne]

17. ooh. I'm scared.

[davepc]

19. What scaremongering reporting

1st, an AT-4 is an UNGUIDED anti-tank ROCKET that is wholly ineffective at shooting down airplanes. That dosent stop CBS from using stock footage of Afganis shooting GUIDED anti-aircraft MISSLES.

2nd, there do exist dummy AT-4 tubes that are used during training. They simulate the weight and bulk of the weapon without the ability to actualy shoot a rocket. These are not unkown to make their way into civilian hands. As they are not actually rocket lanchers, the only thing they can do is look scary.

[SaveAmerica]

22. Does the government put stickers of soldiers on weapons? That's

just the weirdest part, to me.

[davepc]

24. it's been a while since i've seen one up close.

[davepc]

26. The tubes are common enough that people make "toy" launchers out of them

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/projects/at4_custom/at4_custom.htm

I think one of the major difference that set this one aside from other (former) airsoft AT-4 is the fact that it being 100% authentic, both in appearance and control. It looks identical to the army's AT-4 because it is built on a de-milled AT-4 tube. It uses 100% of the original switches and buttons and even safety of the military's AT-4. It is also a fully mechanical design which does not require any power source to fire (nothing to fail you).

Besides the weight (or if someone is dumb enough to look directly down the tube), there is no way you can tell this is not the real deal. For example Florida Airsoft has their own version built earlier this year using an electronic sprinkler valve. However to accommodate the valve, a hole has to be cut in the AT-4 and they have to build a small box to cover the sprinkler valve that sticks out of the AT-4 tube.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

20. If you can shoot a plane out of the sky...

With an AT-4, you are a better man than I.

And I suspect that this weapon was either spent or de-watted.

[merh]

46. From the article

Sources tell CBS 2 HD that the device is an AT-4 missile launcher that is used to fire against tanks and buildings. The device was first approved by the U.S. Army in 1985 and its very powerful warheads can penetrate through more than a foot of armor.

Each launcher can be used only once, however, and the device found on Besai's lawn was said to have been used previously. It was deemed inoperable and turned over U.S. Army officials at the New Jersey's Fort Monmouth.

[LostinVA]

21. I wasn't aware they had lawns in Jersey City

[War Pigs]

23. Chertoff was right!!!

[slackmaster]

29. "...inoperative military rocket launcher tube..." say feds (Fox)

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290165,00.html

Training device, about 20 years old.



No LiteBrites were harmed in this incident.

[davepc]

30. That just dosen't make for a fun news story

Plastic tube found on New Jersey lawn! Officials say the tube looks like a military rocket launcher, but in fact is not one.

Dosen't quite have the TERRAH TERRAH TERRAH aspect to it.

[Ian David]

41. Is this the sort of thing you can buy at an Army / Navy Store? n/t

[slackmaster]

43. Yes, or by mail order anywhere

It's a completely unregulated item.

[sabra]

31. Feds Seize Missile Launcher In Jersey City

Source: CBS

(CBS) JERSEY CITY A Jersey City woman made a shocking discovery on her lawn this morning when she noticed a military rocket launcher lying in the grass.

Niranjana Besai was leaving her house, located at 88 Nelson Street, to go to work just after 8 this morning when she spotted the launcher on her front lawn. "I read it and it (said) 'missile,'" Besai told CBS 2 HD. "There was little 'missile' (writing) on it."

She immediately called police.

Sources tell CBS 2 HD that the device is an AT-4 missile launcher that is used to fire against tanks and buildings. The device was first approved by the U.S. Army in 1985 and questions are being raised as to whether the device was stolen from a branch of the military.

...

Officials initially expressed concern after discovering that Besai's house is located along a flight path for Newark Liberty International Airport.

Read more: http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_201113005.html

[wakeme2008]

32. Great for the 4th iof July

[daa]

33. I wonder if

the same feds that found it were the ones that planted it?

[CottonBear]

34. Ding, ding, ding!

Yeah. What halfway competent terrorist would leave a missle launcher on someone's front lawn?
:eyes:

[Warren Stupidity]

35. Dupe and highly dubious.

The rocket launcher has morphed into an anti-tank bazooka type weapon. These things appear to be widely available (US$1,480.64 according to wiki). One has to ask 'why would somebody leave it on somebody's lawn?'

[yy4me]

37. It was meant to be found. You know, terror, terror, terror!

[applegrove]

36. Lovely!

[sinkingfeeling]

38. Another misleading headline. The 'feds' didn't seize anything. The woman and then the

police turned it over to the 'feds'. The woman found it on her lawn. How is that 'seizing' something?

[Warren Stupidity]

39. The feds seized from the police.

After all, they have a limited supply of these things so they needed to put it back in their inventory.

[dkofos]

40. This will probably end up being a toy.

[Ian David]

42. Probably

[slackmaster]

44. To seize something you have to take it away from someone

"Feds pick up piece of litter from woman's lawn" would be more accurate.

[merh]

45. Could it be one of these?

spud missile launcher, perhaps?


on edit: that's a fancy potato gun. :crazy:

[DemoTex]

47. Big deal. My father-in-law had a Nebelwefer by his motel's swimming pool ..

Aimed at the front desk! "It discourages robberies," he told me.

[iverglas]

48. so this is where the gun dungeon crew is today

No fear now, folks. The rkba-heads are here to tell you all is well.

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/20/ap3936813.html

"It can never be reloaded, but it still has the mechanism that can be useful for training," Rider said, explaining that soldiers can learn to carry it on their shoulder and take aim.

I dunno. If I found one on my front lawn, I'd probably call police. And maybe the local CBC station, which just might think it a newsworthy story.

I found a car on my front lawn once, crashed into my porch. It was 2 a.m., and I was getting home from work. I called police. They arrived at my door and sternly inquired whether that was my car crashed into my porch. At least Ms. Besai seems to have avoided stupid questions like that.

The car on my front lawn turned out to belong to a drunk on the next block over who had apparently decided it was better to go home to bed than wait for someone to notice. I wonder who will turn out to be the owner of the anti-tank missile launcher found on Ms. Besai's lawn, and why s/he thought it better to leave it there than take it home. Maybe it fell like a lawn dart from the sky.

[davepc]

59. Who made any issue of her calling the police?

Instead of reacting to Terrah Terrah Terrah initial media reports that are short on facts and long on worst case scenario speculation, some actual facts are useful.

If I found a spent rocket launcher on my lawn I'd call police too.

It was the initial media reports focusing on non-existent ability of the empty launcher tube to shoot down airplanes that I had a problem with.

If you haven't noticed, but down here we have a problem with elected officials and their political apointments pushing fear and terror on the population, and the media being accessory to those actions doesn't help any.

But i guess we could fuel Chertoff's "gut feeling" about an imment terrah attack by thinking this incident is some sign of a future calamity or make links that don't exist to terrorists shooting down planes at Liberty International. Especially since the launcher was found in the middle of one of the most densely population cites in New Jersey with a large immigrant Muslim population.

[Speaker]

50. It's a spent tube.

You can get one for your kid for about 10 bucks at any flea market.

Some poor 7 year old is gonna' be bummed that the cops took his toy.

The panty wetters in this country are definitely screwing up life.

[ohio2007]

58. Niranjana Besai ....you got PUNKED !!!

The article said the serial # on the launcher will help to trace its origin so a lot more can be learned but most likely,never released to the public

[NeedleCast]

51. Crap

I knew something fell out of the bed of my truck when I hit the pothole in Jersey.

[pinniped]

52. Some freakpubic dude was waiting for the al-Qaeda or UN tanks to roll into his hood.

.