Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights ("In Running for Most Unpopular President" in Modern Polling)

[Hissyspit]

Source: Washington Post

Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights
In Modern Era, Only Nixon Scored Worse, And Only Truman Was Down for So Long

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 25, 2007; Page A03

President Bush is a competitive guy. But this is one contest he would rather lose. With 18 months left in office, he is in the running for most unpopular president in the history of modern polling. The latest Washington Post-ABC News survey shows that 65 percent of Americans disapprove of Bush's job performance, matching his all-time low. In polls conducted by The Post or Gallup going back to 1938, only once has a president exceeded that level of public animosity -- and that was Richard M. Nixon, who hit 66 percent four days before he resigned.

- snip -

Yet Bush's political troubles seem to go beyond particular policies. Many presidents over the past 70 years have faced greater or more immediate crises without falling as far in the public mind -- Vietnam claimed far more American lives than Iraq, the Iranian hostage crisis made the United States look impotent, race riots and desegregation tore the country apart, the oil embargo forced drivers to wait for hours to fill up, the Soviets seemed to threaten the nation's survival.

"It's astonishing," said Pat Caddell, who was President Jimmy Carter's pollster. "It's hard to look at the situation today and say the country is absolutely 15 miles down in the hole. The economy's not that bad -- for some people it is, but not overall. Iraq is terribly handled, but it's not Vietnam; we're not losing 250 people a week. . . . We don't have that immediate crisis, yet the anxiety about the future is palpable. And the feeling about him is he's irrelevant to that. I think they've basically given up on him."

That may stem in part from the changing nature of society. When Caddell's boss was president, there were three major broadcast networks. Today cable news, talk radio and the Internet have made information far more available, while providing easy outlets for rage and polarization. Public disapproval of Bush is not only broad but deep; 52 percent of Americans "strongly" disapprove of his performance and 28 percent describe themselves as "angry."

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/24/AR2007072402263.html?sub=AR

[MrTriumph]

1. Warning: Typical MSM conservative bias

Note: Even though the MSM has a shameful record of holding Bush to account from 2001-2005, the author blames cable news, talk radio, and the Internet for breeding "rage and polarization."
Seems like failed policies and inept performance are to blame for Bush's low ratings.

Peter Baker just doesn't get it. Maybe he just wants to be another Judith Miller.

[Hissyspit]

2. Yes, I like the spin about how it is freeing to have every American hate you. n/t

[nolabels]

5. "A lot of the commentary that comes out of the Internet world is very harsh,"

The quote "A lot of the commentary that comes out of the Internet world is very harsh," said Frank J. Donatelli, White House political director for Ronald Reagan. "That has a tendency to reinforce people's opinions and harden people's opinions."


Yea, torture, lying the American public into unworkable military incursions, stealing elections, millions of illegal and unconstitutional wire taps, ladling out the public cash box to multinationals, having the 20% religious zealots run roughshod over the court system and just about any other institution. Like the lists are endless but somehow it's just that the "Internet world is very harsh".

That lowly thing, the internet is probably the only thing that has saved us from the totalitarian state, yet they want to call it harsh :nopity:

edit; spelling

[ginnyinWI]

7. it's reality that is harsh

This time the little cowboy stepped in a big one, and Daddy's money can't bail him out. So he just keeps digging harder and deeper into his pit. What is that quote about the definition of insanity being when you do something over and over and expect a different result? But I guess it's the only thing he knows how to do--stamp his foot and try to assert his own set of "rules" over reality. Ain't gonna happen. Nope. The real world is like that.

[Cobalt-60]

8. Its true

PNAC and their masters must have completely discounted the internet when they laid their plans.
If we faced this crowd with the communication technology of 1980 we'd be flat screwed.
After a sudden replacement of anchor men and writers, the alphabet networks would praise of Dick and Junior every night at 7 and 11.
PBS would be gone, privatized in final revenge for their refusal to cooperate with Nixon.
Radio would have degenerated into a morass of Hate Talk and Evangelistic pan handling. the AM band is a good portion of the way there as it is.
And anyone that spoke against them would just be gone, Argentine style.
Of course if it were 1980 it wouldn't have gone on long.
How long do you think it would have taken Junior to antagonize Brezhnev into pushing the button?

[nolabels]

9. Yea, but look at the other side of the coin

Somehow the stars seem to be getting more aligned by the minute for people who want to see. The intransigence of old bloated institutions works in the individuals favor for the most part, bypassing them things just gets quicker and quicker if one figures out all the nuances of looking at all the different angles.

Though it's not only the internet but it's a major part without it we could have never gotten this far so fast. Also it seems most i.t. guys know it is now just about impossible to shut down internet in any absolute sense at any rate. Even if they tried to shut it down in the U.S. many other nations would be able to eclipse whatever little bit of technological advance the U.S. has.

There is a lot of information being passed and it looks like real soon nobody will be able to stop it. To me that looks like something we can be happy and sad about at the same time.

The days of being alone by oneself on a island are going to the wayside :shrug:

[ixion]

19. indeed, the plans were drawn up in the 90's

there was a period between '95 and '97 where the conservative thinking was that the internet was a fad that would pass. As usual, this was a poor assumption based on a flawed premise, but hey, that's what we've come to expect from "conservatives".

[zehnkatzen]

41. Well, that's why they're trying to outlaw the Intertubes...

...behind the scenes, naturally.

[TankLV]

55. Actually, conservatives FIRST settle on the OUTCOME and then gather "facts" to fit their biases...

And then ignore or entirely dismiss any contradicting facts, no matter how overwhelming or prominent.

As opposed to the REALITY based world, where you examine ALL facts and evidence and THEN come to a conclusion, no matter where that would lead you...

The TRUTH has a natural LIBERAL bias...that's a FACT.

[ixion]

66. yep, I agree with your logic there

and definitely prefer life in the reality-based community, as grim as that may be sometimes, to life in fairyland, where the GOP holds court.

[Barrett808]

47. I've been seeing this "blame the public" trope recently

So it's the "emotional" opinions of the citizenry that's to blame, eh?

[DeepModem Mom]

3. What a headline!!! K&R!

[aquart]

4. Pat Caddell needs to be checked for Alzheimer's.

How could a person with all his faculties believe this economy is "not that bad."

[Oak2004]

70. Well, it's a great economy, for someone in his income bracket n/t

[chknltl]

6. Can we throw bush under the bus now?

Someone should design the smiley. Yep that's what, I want, a smiley throwin the chimpster under a bus with another smiley driving that bus and doing a burnout.

[PurpleChez]

32. Bwah-HAH! I picture Preznint Corky with this

befuddled look on his face, still smiling. as he tumbles under the Great Bus Of Vengeance and Righteousness!

[PoconoPragmatist]

43. Thanks A Lot!!

Now I got milk splattered all over my computer monitor! Asshole!! :P :P :P :toast: :toast:

[Usrename]

10. Count me in the 28%

...and 28 percent describe themselves as "angry."

:grr:

[Divine Discontent]

11. right on! I'm with ya.. so upset with these criminals n/t

[PoconoPragmatist]

44. Count Me In The Less Than 28% Who Are "ROYALLY PISSED OFF!!"

Unemployed 2 years. Need I say more??

No, this economy is not that bad...IT FUCKING SUCKS!!

[Javaman]

12. worst president ever. nt

[Algorem]

13. modern? try "ever".

even on cave walls the worst disapproval rating ever found is 58% ("Og" : 58% "ugs",42% "oohs" - National Geographic,August,1956)

[DUlover2909]

14. Why didn't people notice what a jerk he was before 2004?

Wasn't it obvious?

[Algorem]

18. first time i ever remember seeing him was on the news when they

announced he was running and i was laughing because he was such an obvious ridiculous american cornball conman clown.but then i started to see the lowlife media kick in and the nightmare began.fucking bullshit u.s.a.

[earthlover]

23. yeah, he ran on "compassionate conservatism"

Twas neither

[PoconoPragmatist]

46. Compassionate My Ass!! n/t

[tabasco]

59. Same here. Unbelieveable.

It is an indictment of our society that such a malicious, incompetent goon became our chief executive.

[Lisa]

72. yeah -- "the guy you'd want to have a beer with"

And my first thought was, "Do I look like I enjoy mean-spirited teasing and dumb remarks along with my beer?" I was relieved that at least most of the Americans who voted did decide that they liked/trusted the other guy more.


p.s. and welcome to DU, DUlover2909!

[Hissyspit]

21. Welcome to DU, DUlover2909!

:patriot:

:toast:

[PoconoPragmatist]

45. They Did

One word.
Ohio.

[CJCRANE]

15. Maybe he's aiming for 100%

disapproval by the time he leaves office.

[rodeodance]

16. Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights

Source: wp



Disfavor for Bush Hits Rare Heights
In Modern Era, Only Nixon Scored Worse, And Only Truman Was Down for So Long

By Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 25, 2007; Page A03

President Bush is a competitive guy. But this is one contest he would rather lose. With 18 months left in office, he is in the running for most unpopular president in the history of modern polling.

The latest Washington Post-ABC News survey shows that 65 percent of Americans disapprove of Bush's job performance, matching his all-time low. In polls conducted by The Post or Gallup going back to 1938, only once has a president exceeded that level of public animosity -- and that was Richard M. Nixon, who hit 66 percent four days before he resigned.

The historic depth of Bush's public standing has whipsawed his White House, sapped his clout, drained his advisers, encouraged his enemies and jeopardized his legacy. Around the White House, aides make gallows-humor jokes about how they can alienate their remaining supporters -- at least those aides not heading for the door. Outside the White House, many former aides privately express anger and bitterness at their erstwhile colleagues, Bush and the fate of his presidency.

Bush has been so down for so long that some advisers maintain it no longer bothers them much. It can even, they say, be liberating. Seeking the best interpretation for the president's predicament, they argue that Bush can do what he thinks is right without regard to political cost, pointing to decisions to send more U.S. troops to Iraq and to commute the sentence of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/24/AR2007072402263.html?nav=hcmodule

[ashling]

17. I'm sure it IS "liberating"

they no longer have to be concerned with trying to look competent, compassionate, or even human.

Having been relegated to the pigstye in the publics opinion, they are free to let their pigginess show.

[ashling]

22. Piggies - sorry George (Harrison)

Piggies
by George Harrison, The Beatles

Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger WHITEHOUSE piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the Whitehouse piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking.

In the Whitehouse: lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives.

IMPEACH their asses!

[PurpleChez]

33. Excellent!

I especially liked the way you worked "Impeach their asses" into the rhythm. I can't help thinking that George (Harrison) wouldn't mind.

[ashling]

54. Thank you

:)

[The Wizard]

24. Whistling past the grave yard.

"Seeking the best interpretation for the president's predicament, they argue that Bush can do what he thinks is right without regard to political cost, pointing to decisions to send more U.S. troops to Iraq and to commute the sentence of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff."

Unfortunately for all parties (Bush, his 20% support, and the rest of humanity), Bush doing what he thinks is right is wrong for everyone but the Bush cartel. Being a lying scumbag and war profiteer has consequences.
And when you can rig elections, there's no such thing as political cost.

[wizstars]

29. How "liberating" will it be when we slam the cell doors shut on the b@st@ards??

It'll certainly be liberating for me

"The change it had to come, we knew it all along..."

[ixion]

20. "President Bush is a competitive guy."

uh, yeah, as long as his "competition" is hobbled and playing on his irregular playing field. :eyes:

[earthlover]

25. political capital.....

what happened?

[DrDan]

26. wow - 28% "angry"

That has to bring some sleepless nights to Cheney, Rove and the other architects of this felonious regime.

Do they worry about the quiet protests becoming "angry" and turning in to revolt? 28% is significant. They should worry.

[broadcaster]

27. Caddell is unaware of the fundamentals of what Bush has done..

We can all make the list. Caddell is actually doing what I saw done during Watergate,
when the response was "what's the big deal, it was only a break in!"

Peter Baker takes Caddell's minimizing comments and spins it into 'if it weren't for
the cable and internet, we'd have peace and quiet.' This is what Nixon hoped for,
minimize it and it will go away.

Indeed, Fox and CNN being corporate/Bush outlets, have fanned the flames of
partisanship, they have done very little to report on the real fundamental issues
that make Americans angry: Bush's illegal war, and the assault on the Constitution.

Peter Baker has done a sloppy article here.

[sendero]

28. Could there ever be a better example..

... of why Americans who are paying attention have totally given up on the "news" media in this country? I didn't hear these bleating morons puzzling over why Bush had great polling right after 9-11 when after all it HAPPENED UNDER HIS COMMAND.

No, these quisling douchebags scratch their heads. Why is the internet so harsh? HERE'S A CLUE YOU SIMPERING SHITHEAD - we're harsh because you sorry mo fos are NOT DOING YOUR JOBS. If Americans who rely on the MSM KNEW how bad it had gotten, if the average Joe realized that the Dictator Tot has now placed himself ABOVE THE LAW, well, he'd be polling in the single digits, not the 20s.

But we've long since given up on you, and the backlash is just beginning. Newspapers are all but obsolete, and your useless commentary and reporting is a good reason. Television is even worse.

When the history of this era is written, you all are not going to fare well. Benedicts.

[Hersheygirl]

30. By the time *'s term is over,

He'll be the winner of that contest, since he is so "competitive". Evidently more and more people are now starting to realize what I and so many others knew in 2000, that this is one evil, incompetent son-of-bitch. It's just a shame it took them so long to realize it. On the upside, it makes us look like geniuses.

[LiberalFighter]

31. There are more idiots then there were when Nixon was in office.

If that were taken into account Bush would be declared the winner by a technical knockout. And the American people would be the losers. During my lifetime I have despised and hated Nixon and Reagan but never as much as Bush.

Historians WILL record Bush as the most incompetent and worst ever to be President. And no amount of media hype will change that.

But to keep others of his ilk from becoming President and thwart the Constitution and laws of this country Bush needs to be severely punished.

[PurpleChez]

34. "Historians WILL record Bush as the most incompetent and worst ever"

I recently read an interesting comment -- probably right here at DU -- about how our opinions tend to soften over time, we see more of the "big picture", etc., but that in Chimpy's case, as the generations pass you will no longer have the screeching army of wackos and fundies who vocally support him no matter what and all that will be left are the voices of contempt. Nixon got some props for foreign policy, and he probably deserved them. The Chimp, I think, will be more of a Warren Harding, remembered only for being so mind-numbingly bad.

[LiberalFighter]

50. The big picture during Nixon or Reagan is differently known than Bush

During Nixon and Reagan the internet was not available as a medium of communication as it is now. The spread of information is faster and easier to obtain then it was prior to 2000. It is easier to disprove statements either with transcripts or video.

All of the facts are not known surrounding the activities of Bush but there is no doubt that he and his administration did not consist of integrity and honesty. The public knows more about this administration then the public back during Nixon or Reagan at that time.

[Usrename]

60. I don't think History will compare Bush with other presidents.

From the swearing of a loyalty oath in order to attend his political rallies, to the doctrine of preemptive wars based on hypothetical threats that don't exist, to the extraordinary renditions of fellow human beings, this president will be remembered as a psychologically disturbed tyrant.

Of course, history will naturally compare him with other despots, not with other presidents.

In fact I'm sure of it, it has already begun. There are already comparisons with Hitler and Saddam Hussein. So far, with more than a year left in this reign of terror, most people would agree that he's somewhere between these two.

My guess is that he will have a place in history right alongside Mussolini.

I remember Clinton's last address to the UN. At least twenty standing ovations from the world community. It went on for a long time, people were weeping. America was loved. And not just by patriotic citizens, but by the entire world. Bush destroyed that in less than 5 years.

I do not agree that history will excuse this monster.

[PurpleChez]

64. I am not really going to equate Chimpy with Hitler, but

I do think that historians and analysts of the near future are going to look back on this period the way we have long looked back at 1930s Germany and ask How the Fuck could a modern nation have bought into this crap. In addition to all of the policy stuff (Iraq, wiretaps, rendition, etc.), I think that the intellectual bankruptcy of this bunch and their supporters will become more and more an issue (denying global warming, the hypocrisy of torturing in the name of Jesus, the notion that fascist redneck clods were the only true Americans, and so on).

[PurpleChez]

63. I have heard several stories

but haven't yet been able to track down a lot of the sources, talking about how many historians are forgoing the usual 10- or 20-year waiting period to weigh on on Bush 43 and declare him one of the worst, if not THE worst. What is already known is so damning it's hard to imagine that anything could come out that would counterbalance the evil. Perhaps his "in" with Jesus allows him to actually cure disease through the laying on of hands.

[LiberalFighter]

65. Historians will have so much information available.

The problem they might have is whether the Presidential papers will all be there. And if I recall, they are suppose to be open after 12 years. Except, bushwad revoked that order.

[nuxvomica]

35. This is just plain nutty

How can he point to the harshness of Internet discourse and completely ignore the fact that Bush's profoundly unprecedented arrogance and incompetence are the cause of his "disfavor"? I'm no brilliant WaPo columnist but I know a few things just from breathing the air: Bush is the worst president ever with the worst policies and the worst staff and a singular disregard for the opinions of the citizenry. People are unhappy with him because he's made their lives scary, difficult and, in many cases, tragic. The American people want an end to the war, which even if they think it isn't a deliberate mistake it is still a costly mistake and that means you need to stop it as soon as possible. They are unhappy with Congress because (a) they remember the rubber-stamp Congress that enabled all these problems and they will continue to view the institution the same way until major changes are made and (b) they expected the current Congress would get us out of this war and it hasn't.

[onewholaughsatfools]

36. low approval ratings. laughs

Everyone knows that his approval rating is still to high for
what he has done to America, I would say it's really about 14%

[jojo54]

37. Notice how there are STILL those 35% for * and 34% for Nixon

that believe. Those are the people that we have to fear. They are hard-nosed, true to the word idiots that think Repukes can never, never do wrong despite lives being lost and illegal shit going on all over the place.

[TankLV]

57. Which are 75-85% of the REPUKES. Now THAT is scary...

What nobody notices, is that that proves that repukes are a SMALL MINORITY of the country.

And that REPUKES are a very scary FRINGE group that care only about THEIR Party and last about OUR Country - just like all fascists and dictatorships...

[lame54]

38. uncle dick

needs to be impeached and then let's watch the cowboy twist in the wind

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tMACzBomDK4

[Doctor_J]

39. Is Caddell some sort of TV Dem?

If they would actually ask a Dem-on-the-street, they'd get the truth instead of some half-assed compliment.

[yellowcanine]

40. Caddell is a turncoat. He regularly trashes the Clintons and makes excuses for boy George.

[Doctor_J]

49. That explains why he was interviewed for the story

Can't have any real Dems' opinions appear.

[depakid]

67. Yep- typical Pravda, err.... I mean Post.

[happygoluckytoyou]

42. TONY SNOW HERE----->

ok, so 65% of the people think "W" stands for "WRONG"... and nobody likes TheDick Cheney
but if the democrats were in the whitehouse we'd be at peace with most of the world, and in dialogue with the bad guys, and not afraid of flying or eating, and our kids would be getting better education, and we wouldn't be the first generation to be worse off than our parents, and we'd be addressing stem-cell research and global warming, and AIDS, and poverty, and living wages...

BUT BILL CLINTON GOT A BLOW JOB... so the Terrorists would win (especially the ones collecting blue dresses with sperm)

This has been Tony "blowjob" Snowjob reporting from the whitehouse

[acmavm]

48. The majority of the people hate this asswipe and thie WP tries

to make it sound like a mystery as to why. Amazing.

[Voice for Peace]

51. Ray McGovern's letter to Conyers; updated Bush psychological profile

from
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/24/2736/

excerpt:
<<
Many of us intelligence analysts have found utility in relying, in part, on short studies applying psychoanalysis to develop profiles of foreign leaders. (This marriage of psychoanalysis and intelligence work actually goes back to the early 1940s, when the OSS commissioned such studies on Hitler.) We called them “at-a-distance personality assessments.”

Three years ago Justin Frank, M.D., a psychiatrist here in Washington, wrote a book “Bush on the Couch” in which he provided keen insights into the president’s mode of thinking-or not thinking.

Eager to use every tool at our disposal, VIPS recently asked Dr. Frank to update his observations, with a view to forecasting, to the extent possible, how Bush is likely to react to the building pressures of the coming weeks and months. We will issue, perhaps as early as this week, Dr. Frank’s latest analysis, fortified by our own input. But we already have his preliminary analysis; there is no other word for it: Scary.

In a quick note to us this morning , Dr. Frank noted we are “dealing with a potentially cornered man could lash out, and it is possible that the best way would be to bomb Iran…. Whatever the root causes of Bush’s pathology, we have a dangerous man running things…grandiose and unchecked.”

Some snippets from the Memorandum that Dr. Frank is drafting for issuance under VIPS auspices:

“George W. Bush is without conscience…and destructive, willfully so. He has always likes to break things…most shocking is the way he is breaking our armed forces.

“He doesn’t care about others, is indifferent to their suffering…He is almost constitutionally missing the ability to sympathize or empathize…More indifferent to reality than out of touch with it, he makes up whatever story he wants.

“Ultimately, he is psychologically unstable…His goal is to destroy things without experiencing anxiety or a sense of responsibility. An equally important goal is to protect himself from shame, from being wrong, from being found small and weak.”
>>

[closeupready]

62. While it is true that he exercises power unchecked, that is due to Congress' irresponsibility, too.

If Congress was behaving in a manner consistent with the role which the founders intended the legislative branch to have, they would be checking Bush's power, but they aren't.

[swimmernsecretsea]

52. Oh, that ship has sailed, as far as I'm concerned.

All that's needed is to confirm the numbers. You brought it on yourself, shrub.

[AllyCat]

53. I don't think Dimson much cares. He has set it up so he's the dictator

anyway. What does he need Americans f***in' approval for?

[truthisfreedom]

56. Let's make sure he wears that crown. He needs to go down in history as the Worst. President. Ever.

Rove has just got to be itching for another terralert.

[Raine]

58. I sure hope he exceeds Nixon

in unpopularity cause chimp deserves it, Nixon looks like a saint compared to evil chimpie.

[PoconoPragmatist]

69. Well...It's All In The Numbers

when you consider that there were fewer people in the US in 1974 than there are in 2007 - it means MORE PEOPLE THINK BUSH IS AN ASSHOLE, THAN PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT NIXON WAS AN ASSHOLE.

Hey, I'll be goddamned, Bushie actually won the popular vote in something!! *snark*

[Oak2004]

71. No, it's not more idiots, it's more propaganda.

Virtually everyone is vulnerable to the effects of propaganda. And if there are no countervailing influences, people will be sucked into it and believe it. One way to "protect" your victims from countervailing influences is to inoculate them with the notion that everyone else but your chosen sources are lying. Why do yo think the Right screams so long and hard about the "liberal" media?

No, a segment of Americans who are highly vulnerable to propaganda still believe in the Duce, er Decider, and for many of them it's because they've been so convinced that other sources of information are biased that they won't look at anything but Fox News and its ilk (for the rest of Bush's fan club, well, you know sociopaths need to stick together and all...).


Of course the majority of Americans don't read DU, watch Olbermann, etc. Their countervailing information isn't coming from any media. It's coming from the real life experiences of themselves, their families, theiur friends, and their neighbors. There's still room for some of the brainwashed to drop away. Seeing your son or daughter come home in a body bag, or watching your own insurance company all but measure you for one because its more profitable to kill you than to treat you, often has that effect, and its hard to convince people that their eyes are a part of the liberal media.

[Exiled in America]

61. I hereby declare Pat Caddell to be a fucking asshat.

"The economy's not that bad...for some people it is, but not overall." Translation: the economic is great for the wealthiest top percentages and bad for everyone else, but we don't give a fuck, because only rich people count as real persons.

"Iraq is terribly handled, but its not Vietnam." Translation: the fact that we were lied into an illegal war, the fact that it is slowly bankrupting the country, the fact that it is making us demonstratably LESS SECURE against the threat of terrorism - none of these things are important... the public shouldn't be upset with bush because of those things.

"We're not losing 250 people a week." Translation: lives don't matter, and shouldn't have an impact on the publics approval of the president - they're all just numbers.


Fucking moron.

[PoconoPragmatist]

68. Hey, Pat Caddell!!

Why don't you ask a job-seeker how wonderful...or how "not that bad" the economy is, you asshat!!

I have been unemployed for two years, and I'm here to tell you you are right...the economy is not "that bad"...IT FUCKING SUCKS!!