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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:09 AM
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White House defends Gonzales
Source: AP

WASHINGTON - The White House defended Attorney General Alberto Gonzales on Thursday against accusations he gave misleading testimony to Congress. A key Republican senator critical of Gonzales said there was no sign that President Bush's support for the attorney general was weakening.


Sen. Arlen Specter, the top Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, accompanied Bush on an Air Force One on a trip to Philadelphia. At a hearing on Tuesday, the Pennsylvania Republican had told Gonzales, "I do not find your testimony credible, candidly."

The senator Thursday that Bush was sticking by Gonzales out of personal loyalty, despite the attorney general's deteriorating support on Capitol Hill. "The hearing two days ago was devastating (for Gonzales). But so was the hearing before that and so was the hearing before that," Specter said.

Gonzales faces new questions about his credibility because of apparent contradictions between his sworn Senate testimony and an intelligence official's statements. As a result, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., has threatened to request a perjury investigation of Gonzales.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_go_pr_wh/congress_gonzales
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:13 AM
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1. Reason Number 5,429,211 to impeach.
Can someone wake up Nancy and tell her to put impeachment back on the table?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:19 AM
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6. Are you awake? There's not nearly enough votes in the Senate to convict.
Good grief, it's like talking to a wall. :eyes:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:22 AM
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11. not yet but if push came to shove and Senate HAD to vote--bet it would
be a AYE day.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:50 AM
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13. I doubt it
The GOP has demonstrated time and time again they have lemming DNA somewhere in their family trees.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:04 AM
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15. Wake up -- there is no option at this point but to impeach.
There is an avalanche of reasons, and a drip-drip-drip of Congress people beginning to see that. By taking it "off the table," Pelosi prevents that from becoming a deluge. It was catastrophic to say it is "off the table" -- catastrophic in every sense of the word.

When the groundswell develops -- the votes start coming. This is politics. This is how politics works.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:52 AM
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17. It is also NOT a crime.
Impeachment is NOT because we disagree with what he is done. Democrats are above that.

I totally agree with you. If the House impeaches, and the Senate fails to remove the bastard, my fear is that he will be even more emboldened. We sure as HELL don't need that!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:13 AM
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2. Actual justice would put Gonzales in prison
not just him

and not for just perjury either...but gee, I dunno..torture
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:14 AM
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3. Well at least "personal loyalty" sounds like the truth...
... it's not a good reason to defend Gonzales, WH can't seem to make up any of those.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:17 AM
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4. so, Bush now speaks through Specter. ummm.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:07 AM
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16. Have for a long time...
Remember him pacifying the Dems on filibustering Bush nominees only to find out the deal he made gave Bush everything he asked for?

Specter, though he sounds good now, have done quite a bit of damage over the years, (Clarence Thomas hearings, committee investigating JFK assassination.)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:18 AM
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5. WH also defends...
...the Ku Klux Klan,
Fred Phelps,
dog fighting,
the bombing of Pearl Harbor,
the rape of Nanking,
poaching endangered species,
and Sean Hannity.

Hey, if you're going to be evil, why hold back?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:20 AM
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7. Misleading?
Oh, those guys, they'll try to spin anything.

A lie is a lie is a lie.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:21 AM
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8. Snow defended Gonzales on Thursday but would not talk about the subject of the 2004 briefing.



But Gonzales, at Tuesday's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, repeatedly testified that the issue at hand was not about the terrorist surveillance program, which allowed the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on suspects in the United States without receiving prior court approval.

Instead, Gonzales said, the emergency meetings on March 10, 2004, focused on an intelligence program that he would not describe.

White House press secretary Tony Snow defended Gonzales on Thursday but would not talk about the subject of the 2004 briefing.

"Unfortunately we get into areas that you cannot discuss openly," Snow said. "It's a very complex issue. But the attorney general was speaking consistently. The president supports him. I think at some point this is going to be something where members are going to have to go behind closed doors and have a fuller discussion of the issues. But I can't go any further than that."
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:54 AM
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14. More secret squirrel bullshit. National security prevents us from letting the public
know anything about some other illegal, secret program we discuss among a few chosen contractors and lobbyist behind closed doors.


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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:21 AM
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9. Translation: "Leave him alone. He's done a great job covering up for us in the White House."
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:22 AM
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10. So the Godfather supports the Mafia
Gee thanks "White House".
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 10:41 AM
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12. I hope bush does stick to him and they get ajoing cells.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:55 PM
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18. Gonzo's a mad man, Smirky can't hang him out to dry...
because he knows where the bodies are buried (so to speak).
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:12 PM
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19. In related news... the sun is hot :-) n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:15 PM
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20. at what point is it ok for the newspaper to actually admit something happened?
"Gonzales faces new questions about his credibility because of apparent contradictions between his sworn Senate testimony and an intelligence official's statements."

'apparent contradictions'?

:WTF:

you can watch him lie and perjure himself with your own eyes! Innocent until proven guilty, unless everybody fucking saw it!

imo Innocent until proven guilty is for courtrooms only, shit I would be a witness at Gonzo's perjury trial.

Prosecutor: Describe what you saw the defendant do.

Me:There I was minding my own business on the internets when suddenly a post appeared on the DU entitled "**** OFFICIAL GONZO HEARING THREAD #4 ****" and I clicked the link in it to watch C-SPAN 3...

Prosecutor: Proceed.

Me:So that's when it happened: I saw the defendant perjure himself right there on my screen. It was horrifying.

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