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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:07 PM
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World owes US a debt, says Brown
Source: BBC

The world owes a debt to the United States for its leadership in the fight against international terrorism, Gordon Brown has said.

The prime minister described the link with the US as the UK's "most important bilateral relationship" ahead of his first talks with President George Bush.

A foreign office minister had suggested the two countries would no longer be "joined at the hip" on foreign policy.

Analysts will be looking for signs of Labour distancing itself from the US.



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6920877.stm



Brilliant Gordon! You're just as much a dumbass as Blair.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:08 PM
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1. Another lap dog barks right on cue
"Who's a good Gordy? Who's a good boy? Awww..."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:47 PM
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28. Bush's poodle gave way to Bush's chihuahua
How sad!
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:06 AM
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35. Perhaps Not ...
Blair would have said that the world owes Bush a debt of gratitude.

Brown said the United States.

I suspect that is a diplomatic difference.

I am still hopeful that one of the messages Brown will deliver to Bush is that the UK will be out of Iraq ahead of schedule. I don't think Brown is going to be a lapdog for Bush, but time will tell.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:10 PM
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2. He's obviously intent
on sinking the Labour Party.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:24 PM
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9. I still can't figure out why......
It hasn't sunk already.........but then again Bush got re-elected so go figure.

I think people just can't bring themselves to vote Tory (can't blame them for that) and the Lib Dems are just wusses who have missed too many chances to advance.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:07 PM
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18. I think you're correct -
I was tempted to say "right" but it seemed absurd...........lol. Yes - people voting Labour because there not much else to vote for. That may however be coming to an end due to Blur's antics - we don't forgive and forget that easily here.

In another post there's mention of Brown's intention tightening up on security too. I think there may be some issues with that here.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:17 AM
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29. What about LibDem?
Aren't they really to the left of Labor in just about every area now? I mean, there are plenty of leftist in Labor, but they lack power. I believe Labor can be recaptured, but it will require a herculean effort.
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:15 PM
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3. Naaahhh---it's just "politicalspeak", He's no fool .
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 04:18 PM by Fed_Up_Grammy
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:29 PM
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12. Precisely.
You always speak nicely to the crazy man with the axe while backing away from him as rapidly as possible.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:27 PM
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23. "your'e not a dull boy jack..."
let's have adrink at Lloyd's later, yeah...
(ref; Jack Nicholson: the Shining)
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:50 AM
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33. This is what I suspect....
If he does start following King George seriously, he will make himself very unpopular at home, and I think he realizes that.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:17 PM
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4. Not Anymore, It Doesn't
Unless, he means the world should get the cancer that is BushCo out of the body politic...

Otherwise, the debt flows in the other direction, now: economically, morally, in all ways.
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ocd liberal Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:19 PM
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5. "no longer joined at the hip"????
classic "breakup" language
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:27 AM
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30. eh well you know what they say about ex-sex
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:19 PM
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6. And helping the global economy (offshoring)
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 04:19 PM by HypnoToad
On edit: Corrected typo
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Hersheygirl Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:21 PM
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7. What Brown says and what he does
just might be two different things. You know the old saying "keep your friends close and your enemies closer."
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:30 PM
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14. I hear he didn't give the US enough love and it "needed reassurance"
so Brown's been forced to demonstrate that Britain has not forsaken the US because the Bush administration is just that insecure.

What a world.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:21 PM
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8. Must be wearing his heavy duty kneepads
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:25 PM
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10. Sounds like poodle-talk to me.
All hail the great and glorious Caesar - oops - I mean Chimperor.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:49 PM
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17. Now we've trained them to rattle a tin cup. n/t
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:26 PM
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11. Must be 50 ways to leave your lover ...
Really it's not you ... it's me ... I've changed.
I wish you the best ... absolutely ... but it's time we went our separate ways.
Don't feel bad, it's an opportunity for growth ... for both of us.

But the bottom line is ... I'M OUT'A HERE!!!

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:30 PM
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13. And Britons everywhere beg their doctors for anti-depressants.
What an appalling, awful, untrue thing for him to say. We're endangering everybody by our crap.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:32 PM
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15. They are out...
"Our approach, the approach David Cameron and I take, is that our relationship with America should be what we call solid but not slavish and it should gain frankness without losing its closeness."

There is no such relationship with BushCo. It's prag or death; nothing in between.

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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:42 PM
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16. That's a Tory quote not a Gordon Brown Quote....
You should clarify that in your post it does make a difference since it isn't UK Policy.

The quote is from William Haque, Shadow Foreign Secretary.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:39 PM
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19. But I thought China
owns US debt. Oh, that's "owes." How I DO get those pesky words mixed up.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 01:34 AM
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41. Damn, you beat me to the joke.
}(


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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:43 PM
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20. The world owes Bush a debt alright and I hope that he and Cheney pay
it in spades at the Hague!!!!!!!!!!!
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:53 PM
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21. fuck this fat bastard. Another lapdog, although he tried to look different n/t
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:58 PM
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22. Pray more of them don't try to pay us back. n/t
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:33 PM
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24. Maybe Brown is afraid the French Poodle Sarkowzy
..might get a leg up on him Re Bush.


PS Pun intended, okay?
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:40 AM
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31. lol
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:36 PM
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25. Ever heard of being'two-faced?'
Brown has 2 faces one for his Labour voters and one for Bush.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:52 PM
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26. Oh FUCK!
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 07:54 PM by zidzi
Go chew on a doggie bone..you freak. God Damn IT.

Edit~to say..from reading up thread; it seems maybe this is for bushit show..we shall see.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:35 PM
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27. Well, that took ten minutes....G'bye Brown, you fucking loser lapdog
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:49 AM
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32. Still hoping this is diplomatic-speak...
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 02:51 AM by LeftishBrit
and that he will get us out of Iraq and avoid further messes with Mad King George. There are reasons why we got rid of our last Benedict Arnold. We don't need Gordon to be his clone - and actually I still doubt that he will be.

However Sarkozy may yap, I don't think he'll bring France into Bush's wars. If he did, his people would probably revive the guillotine!
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:16 AM
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34. Meanwhile... NGOs report humanitarian crisis in Iraq
LONDON - About 8 million Iraqis — nearly a third of the population — need immediate emergency aid because of the humanitarian crisis caused by the war, relief agencies said Monday.

Those Iraqis are in urgent need of water, sanitation, food and shelter, said the report by Oxfam and the NGO Coordination Committee network in Iraq.

The report said 15 percent of Iraqis cannot regularly afford to eat, and 70 percent are without adequate water supplies, up from 50 percent in 2003. It also said 28 percent of children are malnourished, compared with 19 percent before the 2003 invasion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070730/ap_on_re_mi_ea/britain_oxfam_iraq
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KiraBS Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:35 AM
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36. Here are more of his comments...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/30/nbrown330.xml

He seems to be complimenting the US as a whole, not Bush and he is stressing the need for diplomacy and intelligence.

Brown is a very different man to Blair he does not appear to want to be an international megastar, his leadership so far has been quiet and low key. He was the master of diplomacy for all those years as Blair's Chancellor Of The Exchequer, who most recognised he did not like. But he always did things his way and I think this will be the same.
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TheLastMohican Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 10:29 AM
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37. What's the difference?
So what is the difference between "Yo, Blair" and "Yo, Browne"?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:06 PM
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38. Jon Stewart of TDS did an excellent piece on this
I wish I had a graphic
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:13 PM
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39. Oh Be Serious!
:spray: And the World's definitely laughing at that suggestion!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:02 PM
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40. OK, definitely poodle
I had my doubts at first.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-03-07 02:32 AM
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42. LOL
me too, wow!

Brown you really have showed some awful chutzpa to imply you were not going to be another canine in b*sh's kennel, well, guess what -

WOOF!
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