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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:33 AM
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House Dems upset over split on war
Source: TheHill




House Dems upset over split on war

By Mike Soraghan
August 02, 2007

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) reversed herself on Iraq strategy Wednesday, revealing a fight within the Democratic Caucus over how much Democrats should compromise to gain agreement with Republicans on the unpopular war.

Progressive Caucus leaders were fuming after they walked into a meeting with Pelosi to find out that she had decided to allow a vote Thursday on an Iraq bill they consider too mild.
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“It takes us backwards,” said Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), an Out of Iraq caucus leader. “If Democrats want to give Republicans votes to go home with when they’ve done nothing to redeploy our troops, that’s bad.”

Progressive leaders feel that such measures give cover to Republicans to go home for the August break and tell constituents they have voted for redeployment, without voting on strict measures that would order Bush to bring the troops home.........

Read more: http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:45 AM
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1. She is really starting
to piss me off. I've been trying to hold my tongue, but what in the hell is her problem?

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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:47 AM
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2. Pelosi has probably been threatened by the Admin n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:25 AM
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6. Then she should step down
and let someone else take over as Speaker as she is wholly ineffectual in this position.
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Wiccan Warrior Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:02 AM
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7. Agreed...you notice how all of a sudden she is whimping out...
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 06:59 AM
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3. Spit = democracy is alive and well. Splitting from a ROTTEN MURDEROUS policy
is not bad. May the split grow and grow and grow until the American people are back in charge in Washington DC.


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Throw Diebold, ES&S and all election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW! No more "Blue Dog" (s)elections!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:26 PM
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12. Split = democracy is alive and well. Spit helps, too. nt
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:00 AM
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4. Why is it that the Dems, now in the majority, are constantly COMPROMISING
for the Republicans? The GOP certainly didn't do that when they were the majority.

Pelosi is inching closer and closer to Liebermann country, a Dem in name only. She wasn't elected to compromise, she was elected to kick ass and straighten out all the bullsh!t the Republicans have created.

Now, she's just Republican lite - almost as bad, but not quite. At least she pretends to respect the wishes of the people, she just doesn't really do it. :eyes:
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yava Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:42 PM
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13. Pelosi for President?
May I humbly ask those DU posters who were calling for Nancy for President a few months ago to comment? Are you still here? If so, did you change your mind?
It would be nice to open a debate on this. Moderator, how can we do that?
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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 07:12 AM
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5. Bush Lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgfzqulvhlQ


This should create a consensus to justify impeachment.

So what is keeping the Dems from taking action??
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:28 AM
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8. The part you cut ...


It will be on the suspension calendar, meaning there will be no amendments, but it needs a two-thirds majority to pass.



Of course Nancy Pelosi's personal opinions should not prevent her from forwarding what two-thirds of the House want, if that's how the vote goes.


Bashing Pelosi over this is, of course, just more evidence that those that want to bash her do not understand how congress works, or want to hide how congress works to foster their hate pomp. In either case, this disinformation on how congress works does the American people no great favours, does it?


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:43 AM
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10. Glad you clicked on to read the whole piece. And I did not want to any it or
any of the article. Your assault is un-warrented!
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 09:21 AM
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11. Maybe unwarranted in your opinion.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 09:46 AM by Maribelle

I read the full piece. I think the author of the piece with his title "House Dems upset over split on war" does not take into consideration that the "House Dems" are negotiating exactly how congress should negotiate on matters of importance to this nation - - unlike the lock-step rubber-stamp republicans. The worm has turned.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-dems-upset-over-split-on-war-2007-08-02.html

But just for the record on my assault being unwarranted:

Do you mind if I post the tags wingnuts placed on the author's articles, so they can use his words in their agruments to support their hate mongering?

Wingnut Tags:

Democrats being stupid
Democratic socialism
Nancy Pelosi
Democratic Socialists of America
Democratic traitors
democrats deny military vote



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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 08:32 AM
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9. Was this Murtha's bill? If so, wasn't the problem that the end time
was not specific?
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